[RELEASE] IL2WinWing V1.4

[ZenIT_SWE]

On 11/30/2024 at 5:53 PM, SKIMITAR said:

I see in the debugger that it is getting data from IL2 but the vibrations dont work. I think something is not going right in SimAppPro. Is it required to also have DCS installed?

No you shouldn't need DCS but I'm not 100% sure about that actually, I haven't tried it on a computer without DCS installed. Check that you have the default settings for the vibration motor in SimApp Pro. Also, running SRS is a known issue since that app takes solitary "ownership" of the socket where IL-2 sends it's telemetry data, but since you're getting the data that's not it in this particular case. Other than the settings in SimApp Pro and the lack of DCS I don't know what it can be, sorry.

[Irish]

Really enjoy the immersion this adds. But how do I get this to work alongside a bass shaker. My bass shaker is working through the SimHaptic app.

 

EDIT: I'll just add that SimHaptic requires that I add below to startup.

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 1
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

Edited December 26, 2024 by Irish

[ZenIT_SWE]

On 12/26/2024 at 4:36 AM, Irish said:

Really enjoy the immersion this adds. But how do I get this to work alongside a bass shaker. My bass shaker is working through the SimHaptic app.

 

EDIT: I'll just add that SimHaptic requires that I add below to startup.

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 1
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

 

I think you can add a second address/port for IL2WinWing, like this:

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
      addr = "127.0.0.1"
      addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"
      decimation = 2
      enable = true
      port = 29373
[END]

 

Then make sure that IL2WinWing uses port 4322 (in IL2WinWing.dll.config)

Edited January 2 by =NOSIG=ZenIT_SWE

[Irish]

"It's alive! It's alive!"

 

omg it worked thank you so much. Immersion successfully increased. 

[smee_ger_ac]

Thank you, for that great tool.
I have two questions.

 

1. The stall effect could be greater, is there in IL-2 or SimApp  any settings that can be done.
  In IL-2 the force is set to 100%

 

2. Can this be modified to work with War Thunder?

[ZenIT_SWE]

11 hours ago, [DBS]smee_ger_ac said:

Thank you, for that great tool.
I have two questions.

 

1. The stall effect could be greater, is there in IL-2 or SimApp  any settings that can be done.
  In IL-2 the force is set to 100%

 

2. Can this be modified to work with War Thunder?

Hi there!

 

Glad you like it. 

 

1. What my app does is to translate the telemetry data from IL-2 into data that makes SimAppPro think that you're flying the P-51 in DCS. So, if you want to adjust the response your only option is to create a custom profile for the "Dynamic vibration motor" or whatever they call it for the DCS P-51 in SimAppPro. The user interface for this is among the worst I've seen so it's not that easy but if you give it some time you will be able to create more "aggressive" curves for the angle of attack etc.

 

2. In order to build a similar app for War Thunder that game there needs to be a way to get telemetry data from it. After a quick Google search it seems to be possible to get some data from that game as well so it's possible. I don't own the game but I suggest that reach out to WinWing and ask them to add support for it in SimAppPro.

Edited February 3 by =NOSIG=ZenIT_SWE

[[TDZ]Ternary]

I'm unable to get this to work, if I run the patched SRS alongside il2winwing on combat box it keeps me in the neutral lobby even when I spawn in an plane.

 

This is the entry I have in startup.cfg

 

Am I missing something obvious, SRS works on its own, as does il2winwing but when I run them *together*, il2winwing works but SRS never switches channel.

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
	addr = "127.0.0.1"
	decimation = 2
	enable = true
	port = 4322
[END]

 

[ZenIT_SWE]

2 hours ago, [TDZ]Ternary said:

I'm unable to get this to work, if I run the patched SRS alongside il2winwing on combat box it keeps me in the neutral lobby even when I spawn in an plane.

 

This is the entry I have in startup.cfg

 

Am I missing something obvious, SRS works on its own, as does il2winwing but when I run them *together*, il2winwing works but SRS never switches channel.

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
	addr = "127.0.0.1"
	decimation = 2
	enable = true
	port = 4322
[END]

 

Please try the following:

 

KEY = telemetrydevice]

      addr = "127.0.0.1"

      addr1 = "127.0.0.1:4322"

      decimation = 2

      enable = true

      port = 29373

[END]

 

Just make sure that the port number (in this case 4322 or 29373) matches with what you have in the IL2WinWing config file (IL2WinWing.dll.config).

[[TDZ]Ternary]

That appears to have done it! - will test it properly later 🙈 (I would have sworn I tried that and about 30 other combinations) - even pulled the upstream SRS/installed VS and applied the code change from the issue you filed on their repo and missed that :D.

 

Many thanks and particulary for il2winwing itself - didn't even realise the stick *had* haptics (I should read the specs on things I buy more carefully) but having them is on il2 is fantastic :).

[J37_GCF]

Thank very much !!!! Works Great in Flying Circus Planes have tested it in about 4 planes both side so far and works excellent.

Only three questions. 

1. Is there a way i can select it to only add vibration when i go into stall speed and not when guns are firing ?

2. Is there a way to only have vibration on the stick and not on the throttles ?

3. A a very minor issue vibration works with plane spawn even when motor is stopped and only goes away when you gain a bit of speed, this is easily lived with.

Great work much appreciated !

[ZenIT_SWE]

34 minutes ago, J37_GCF said:

Thank very much !!!! Works Great in Flying Circus Planes have tested it in about 4 planes both side so far and works excellent.

Only three questions. 

1. Is there a way i can select it to only add vibration when i go into stall speed and not when guns are firing ?

2. Is there a way to only have vibration on the stick and not on the throttles ?

3. A a very minor issue vibration works with plane spawn even when motor is stopped and only goes away when you gain a bit of speed, this is easily lived with.

Great work much appreciated !

Hello!

 

1. The only way to accomplish this is to create a custom profile for the DCS P-51 in SimAppPro and disable the vibrations for guns there. The UI for this is unfortunately quite complicated and unintuitive but it's absolutely doable. My application "tricks" SimAppPro to think that we're flying the P-51D in DCS, that's why you can adjust the behavior with custom profiles for that aircraft.

2. This can be done about the same way as in point 1. Create new empty profiles for left and right throttle handle (for the P-51)

3. To fix this I would have to a bit of digging in order to determine why it happens. My guess is that I don't receive info about the plane being respawn and just continue like it wasn't even shot down. I will try to find some time to look into it.

[J37_GCF]

Sorry for all the questions but which p51 ? i see three listed in smapppro

[ZenIT_SWE]

9 minutes ago, J37_GCF said:

Sorry for all the questions but which p51 ? i see three listed in smapppro

TF-51D

[J37_GCF]

13 hours ago, ZenIT_SWE said:

Hello!

 

1. The only way to accomplish this is to create a custom profile for the DCS P-51 in SimAppPro and disable the vibrations for guns there. The UI for this is unfortunately quite complicated and unintuitive but it's absolutely doable. My application "tricks" SimAppPro to think that we're flying the P-51D in DCS, that's why you can adjust the behavior with custom profiles for that aircraft.

2. This can be done about the same way as in point 1. Create new empty profiles for left and right throttle handle (for the P-51)

3. To fix this I would have to a bit of digging in order to determine why it happens. My guess is that I don't receive info about the plane being respawn and just continue like it wasn't even shot down. I will try to find some time to look into it.

Hi thanks fixed 1 and 2 easy to do. dont worry about number 3 as i think its the low speed of plane causing the vibration effects as soon as a bit moving goes away.

great app works flawlessly , thank you so much !

[Sherman729]

Thanks for the amazing job!

Ive been spoiled so much, that I need moar: is there a way to get the vibration working on DCS with unsupported planes (MB-339, A4-EC, C101)?

[ZenIT_SWE]

11 hours ago, Sherman729 said:

Thanks for the amazing job!

Ive been spoiled so much, that I need moar: is there a way to get the vibration working on DCS with unsupported planes (MB-339, A4-EC, C101)?

I'm not sure, that would at the very least require modding of the SimApp Pro scripts which I'm not that keen on doing to be honest.

 

My suggestion is to contact WinWing and ask them to add support for those aircraft. Its most likely an easy thing for them to do.

[Irish]

Still a great mod. I was able to get this working along side both the bass shaker and the Moza ab9 ffb stick using the following lines. Thanks again my friend.

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.255.255.255"
    addr1 = "127.255.255.255:29373"
        addr2 = "127.255.255.255:4322"
        decimation = 3
    enable = true
    port = 5678
[END]

[LR.CIACowboy]

I truly hope someone is still checking this thread. I purchased the WinWing Orion base, F16 with shaker flight grip and I am attempting to use it in IL 2. I have my buttons and keys programmed just fine, but for some reason, I cannot get this addon to work.

I have checked and double checked all files to ensure they are properly coded as per instructions...but no joy. I fly the Spitfire Mk IXE which was listed as a useable aircraft in an earlier post. I have attached my Startup.cfg file from IL2 as well as the DLL config from your addon. The Debug window shows cannon fire etc but no vibration.
Any help will be MUCH appreciated.

IL2WinWing.dll.txt startup.txt

Edited 13 hours ago by LR.CIACowboy

[ZenIT_SWE]

6 hours ago, LR.CIACowboy said:

I truly hope someone is still checking this thread. I purchased the WinWing Orion base, F16 with shaker flight grip and I am attempting to use it in IL 2. I have my buttons and keys programmed just fine, but for some reason, I cannot get this addon to work.

I have checked and double checked all files to ensure they are properly coded as per instructions...but no joy. I fly the Spitfire Mk IXE which was listed as a useable aircraft in an earlier post. I have attached my Startup.cfg file from IL2 as well as the DLL config from your addon. The Debug window shows cannon fire etc but no vibration.
Any help will be MUCH appreciated.

IL2WinWing.dll.txt 930 B · 2 downloads startup.txt 2.52 kB · 1 download

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I have a couple of ideas that you can check:

• Have you messed around with the vibration settings for the DCS model TF-51D in SimAppPro? IL2WinWing translates the telemetry data from IL-2 so that SimAppPro thinks you're flying a TF-51D in DCS.
• I don't think this is it since you seem to get data from IL-2, but do you have a firewall that's blocking port 4322? Maybe test with a different telemetry port, like 29300 or something. Remember to change it in both files.

Do you use any other game like DCS, MSFS or X-Plane and get vibrations when playing those?