MAJ_stug41 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Unless all of the required systems for a korean era conflict, like radar, command and control systems, carriers, and so on, are added, then korea will feel like a shell of what it should be. Hopefully they can deliver on a coherent product. I do look forward to the yak3, la7, and finally completion of the odessa map. A20G would sufficiently round out western and soviet bombers, so hopefully that is in consideration. Still holding hope for that and a b25 or 26. Again edit - At 26:40, tuseyev says after speaking about the 152, "in the future we plan to keep designing all sorts of planes for Great Battles in cooperation with various partners", this brings me hope of some of the gaps being filled. It may also imply that the korea project is not a Great Battles module. Edited December 31, 2023 by MAJ_stug41 3
migmadmarine Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Would be cool to get an Invader, since that could be used both in the western front and Korea if they chose to implement it into both. 1
YoYo Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Many good news, Thank you and please dont forget about Flying Circus. 3
354thFG_Leifr Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 B-29, neat. But will an online environment be able to run more than a handful of them at any moment in time and not degrade the performance to unplayable? BoX cannot handle twin-engines in any reasonable number without making large sacrifices in other areas, so what is there to be excited about in a four-engined heavy finally appearing? 1
Jade_Monkey Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, migmadmarine said: Would be cool to get an Invader, since that could be used both in the western front and Korea if they chose to implement it into both. Would LOVE that but gonna keep my hopes down.
deathmisser Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Has anyone thought it could be a rebrand ? If they are going into the 1950s As IL-2 GB was and is more or less WW2 based, they said that in the past they have taken some amount of risks. If they rebrand then they can pretty much do what ever era they want. This is just me thinking out loud
deathmisser Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 I rewatch'ed the part where they were talking about the new project and it defo sounds like the new project is the upgraded engine.
MajorMagee Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) The almost exclusive North Korean tank in the Korean War was the T-34/85 with a strength of 200 at the start and 120 being actively used during the initial thrust into the South. The IS-2 almost works (the one in the video depicts a late 1944 model) for the Battle of Narva in early 1944, and the subsequent beginning of Operation Bagration on the Karelia map. It would certainly work for the new Odessa map in 1944 where the IS-2 was seen as a particular success against the German Big Cats. Service To The Line, On The Line, On Time! Edited December 31, 2023 by MajorMagee 1
migmadmarine Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, deathmisser said: Has anyone thought it could be a rebrand ? If they are going into the 1950s As IL-2 GB was and is more or less WW2 based, they said that in the past they have taken some amount of risks. If they rebrand then they can pretty much do what ever era they want. This is just me thinking out loud Yes, time for the new flight sim Il-10 Sturmovik 1
deathmisser Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, migmadmarine said: Yes, time for the new flight sim Il-10 Sturmovik Oh god or just change the name to Historic battles lol 1
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 52 minutes ago, MAJ_stug41 said: Unless all of the required systems for a korean era conflict, like radar, command and control systems, carriers, and so on, are added, then korea will feel like a shell of what it should be. Hopefully they can deliver on a coherent product. I do look forward to the yak3, la7, and finally completion of the odessa map. A20G would sufficiently round out western and soviet bombers, so hopefully that is in consideration. Still holding hope for that and a b25 or 26. Again with radar. People forget radar was a huge part of WWII. 6
MAJ_stug41 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: Again with radar. People forget radar was a huge part of WWII. Imagine proper radar simulation, not just for night fighting, but for central gunnery directors on ships and for networked ground batteries and search lights, or integrated with a command and control operations room function. So many excellent distinct possibilities not covered properly in any game. Edit - the b29/50 of korean era would require ranging radar for the defensive gun system. Imagine on top of that, proper radar countermeasures, or radar or radio guidance for night bombing! They were doing this in 1940! Edited December 31, 2023 by MAJ_stug41
deathmisser Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 "For the first time our game is getting tunnels" yea defo an engine & model upgrades Spoiler
migmadmarine Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, deathmisser said: Oh god or just change the name to Historic battles lol Il-10 Sturmovik: Tremendous Battles haha 5
R33GZ Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Please please please do this theatre justice and include carriers... at least the USN
CountZero Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 better presentation then last video hey did, not mutch suprises, didnt expect odessa or ju87d5, so still no clear answer about new project being new game, so then that means it is new game not compatable with this one, as if it was other way around they would not let it be questioned for more then a year.
DD_Arthur Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 It won’t be compatible. By keeping shtum for a year they’ve managed to prevent Great Battles sales from collapsing. I think this is good news and I can see all sorts of good things ahead. The GB engine at present is showing it’s age in all sorts of areas and needs a radical makeover. The team are on the case. Here’s hoping Han tips a bucket of water over Viks head in part two. Happy New Year!? S! 1
Enceladus828 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 With this much info about the new product released I don’t understand why they didn’t just tell us the location and plane set right there. 1
VBF-12_Stick-95 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 If Korea, no thanks, I'll put my money on Combat Pilot. 5 3
BlitzPig_EL Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said: If Korea, no thanks, I'll put my money on Combat Pilot. Why not do both? That's my plan. 1 12
Jade_Monkey Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: Why not do both? That's my plan. Exactly, both will offer something fun.
RNAS10_Mitchell Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, deathmisser said: Anyone fount this area yet lol Solomons? Probably wishful thinking. Edited December 31, 2023 by RNAS10_Mitchell
percydanvers Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 I am super excited for Karelia and Odessa, and the collector planes, but for whatever reason I just cannot get myself hyped for a Korea setting (I've really tried). 1 4
migmadmarine Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 We're any AD-1s operated from land bases in Korea? Or just Carrier ops?
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, MAJ_stug41 said: Imagine proper radar simulation, not just for night fighting, but for central gunnery directors on ships and for networked ground batteries and search lights, or integrated with a command and control operations room function. So many excellent distinct possibilities not covered properly in any game. Edit - the b29/50 of korean era would require ranging radar for the defensive gun system. Imagine on top of that, proper radar countermeasures, or radar or radio guidance for night bombing! They were doing this in 1940! I hear ya. There’s a lot of great immersive things that could be done. I was just saying that Korea with no radar is no different than WWII with no radar. It was in heavy use. 1
GOA_Karaya_VR Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Well, it's now confirmed that there is no CBI, no pacific, no Spanish Civil War.. I predict that some folks will gonna move to other simulator competence for making his dreams true. ( for example, fliying an A6M Zero rather than a Mig 15, or an IL-10 ). Just saying. 1
BraveSirRobin Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said: Well, it's now confirmed that there is no CBI, no pacific, no Spanish Civil War.. I predict that some folks will gonna move to other simulator competence for making his dreams true. ( for example, fliying an A6M Zero rather than a Mig 15, or an IL-10 ). Just saying. Mig 15 v F-86 is one of the iconic fighter duels in aviation history. The people who leave will easily be replaced. Just saying. 1 3 2 2
YoYo Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 10 hours ago, LukeFF said: Hey everyone! In this video, Daniel (aka Han) and Viktor (aka =FB=VikS) talk about the 2023 releases and the IL-2 team's plans for 2024. The Q&A part ended up being almost an hour long, so it will be in its own video that we'll be releasing soon (as soon as its English voiceover is done). Happy New Year! btw. What about multithreading support in the future? In DCS we have significant impact, especially for campaignes. Second - for existing owners those updates will be free? 2 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said: Solomons? Probably wishful thinking. Karelia plus known IL-2 nuke blast As extra feature ?. 3 hours ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said: If Korea, no thanks, I'll put my money on Combat Pilot. Korea is Great choice, not worse, maybe even better, but for me - both!
354thFG_Drewm3i-VR Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said: Im assuming the Yak 3 and La7 are just collector planes and not part of the new project? Based on the wording, it seems like the new project will indeed be a separate game that will leave behind the current GB generation and start anew with less baggage although inheriting many technologies and knowledge. That's what it reads like to me. I just hope that the existing content is updated, improved, and eventually ported (sold again) to the new engine. They'd be stupid to leave all that on the table. 1
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said: Well, it's now confirmed that there is no CBI, no pacific, no Spanish Civil War.. I predict that some folks will gonna move to other simulator competence for making his dreams true. ( for example, fliying an A6M Zero rather than a Mig 15, or an IL-10 ). Just saying. One didn’t have to think very hard to eliminate those. I tried to help you guys…there was just no way those were happening. Game engine overhaul plus taking on Japanese aircraft? Was never going to happen right now. Spanish Civil War? ? On what planet would a company decide that is a widely marketable revenue generator? Edited December 31, 2023 by Gambit21
354thFG_Drewm3i-VR Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, DD_Arthur said: It won’t be compatible. By keeping shtum for a year they’ve managed to prevent Great Battles sales from collapsing. I think this is good news and I can see all sorts of good things ahead. The GB engine at present is showing it’s age in all sorts of areas and needs a radical makeover. The team are on the case. Here’s hoping Han tips a bucket of water over Viks head in part two. Happy New Year!? S! If they just upgrade and port the existing maps and content to the new engine with enhanced functionality, graphics, sound, ai, effects, DM/FM, etc. and sell it to us again for a reasonable price, I'm sure most of us would be thrilled. And going to Korea seems like a good decision, as long as the WW2 stuff doesn't go by the wayside. 3
Juri_JS Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 Great to hear that the Odessa map will finally get finished. When Jason first told us about the map years ago, I had already created a concept for a 1944 JG 52 campaign and did all the necessary research. I was rather disappointed when the map wasn't released. 1 1
GOA_Karaya_VR Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BraveSirRobin said: Mig 15 v F-86 is one of the iconic fighter duels in aviation history. The people who leave will easily be replaced. Just saying. Good for you, and good for those who want to spend their bills on a "great battle" war period that the majority dont like, or want a pacific ww2 asian period rather than Korea. We will seen if all of the il2 enthusiast will fill those MIGs vs F86s cockpits or sadly they will be empty. Just saying. 1 2
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said: Good for you, and good for those who want to spend their bills on a "great battle" war period that the majority dont like, or want a pacific ww2 asian period rather than Korea. We will seen if all of the il2 enthusiast will fill those MIGs vs F86s cockpits or sadly they will be empty. Just saying. 1 1
=621=Samikatz Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 All airplanes are cool, so therefore I am as happy with Korea as I would be anywhere else. Hopefully the North Korean air force is how I finally get my beloved Tu-2 Anyone have any guesses as to what the new game mode might be? The Korean War "ended" in a stalemate irl, so maybe we'll get some kind of truly dynamic campaign?
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, =621=Samikatz said: I finally get my beloved Tu-2 Given it’s role in Korea, AI scenery (similar to the B-29) I think is plausible but I doubt flyable. 1 hour ago, =DW=_drewm3i-VR said: If they just upgrade and port the existing maps and content to the new engine with enhanced functionality, graphics, sound, ai, effects, DM/FM, etc. and sell it to us again for a reasonable price, I'm sure most of us would be thrilled. And going to Korea seems like a good decision, as long as the half-broken WW2 stuff doesn't go by the wayside. Maps need to get better.
EAF19_Marsh Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Nice to see Korea done properly. Also, IIRC B-29 use tended towards small formations which would be helpful from the whole complication / processor load perspective. Edited December 31, 2023 by LukeFF politics 1
Gambit21 Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, =621=Samikatz said: …so maybe we'll get some kind of truly dynamic campaign? Doubt it for multiple reasons.
Panzerlang Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 The new DM sounds good. Maybe we'll finally see undercarriage legs dropping down (and other stuff).
JG27_Steini Posted December 31, 2023 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Unfortunately there is again only a new graphical and damage update. Even if it sound good. The quirks of the AI wont be eliminated. We will have endlessly circling Mig's or Sabre's in next theatre again. I have a slightly hope that the GUI upgrade will change something to a immersive feeling belonging to a real squadron with more functions in squadron management. Edited December 31, 2023 by JG27_Steini 1 1
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