Ju-52 stop auto throttle

[ThePops]

Is there any way to stop the sim from doing this auto differential throttle in the Ju-52?

 

Thanks

[RedeyeStorm]

You mean when you use the brakes?

[JG4_Moltke1871]

For the Ju 52 I can recommend a throttle like that:

 

Than create an own profile for that plane, give every engine its own thrust lever and delete the breaks.

You will see you have a total other (better!!!) experience with that plane ?

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

16 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

For the Ju 52 I can recommend a throttle like that:

 

Than create an own profile for that plane, give every engine its own thrust lever and delete the breaks.

You will see you have a total other (better!!!) experience with that plane ?

Great throttle, I have warthog and custom made by GVL but I use this quadrant. Potentiometers are not as good as used to be but ergonomic suit me the best.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

35 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Great throttle, I have warthog and custom made by GVL but I use this quadrant. Potentiometers are not as good as used to be but ergonomic suit me the best.

Meanwhile I have this one in use. The more expensive solution but better quality ?

Give me so much choice for twin engines. Mixture, propellers, cooling shutters etc…. In combination with my warthog Hotas ? unfortunately the trim wheel not works with Il 2 ?

For the Ju 52 I use 3 levellers for thrust and 3 for mixture. 
 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

22 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Meanwhile I have this one in use. The more expensive solution but better quality ?

Give me so much choice for twin engines. Mixture, propellers, cooling shutters etc…. In combination with my warthog Hotas ? unfortunately the trim wheel not works with Il 2 ?

For the Ju 52 I use 3 levellers for thrust and 3 for mixture. 
 

Looks nice. What is the name of it ?

Do levers has the same travel distance as in quadrant?

[JG4_Moltke1871]

12 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Looks nice. What is the name of it ?

Do levers has the same travel distance as in quadrant?

It’s a honeycomb throttle quadrant. Not sure what is the meaning of „travel distance“?, is it about the length of the axis? If yes should be the same.

The throttle at all is very big and needs some space on the table.

May you have a look here

 

[ThePops]

2 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

For the Ju 52 I can recommend a throttle like that:

 

Than create an own profile for that plane, give every engine its own thrust lever and delete the breaks.

You will see you have a total other (better!!!) experience with that plane ?

 

Thanks, excellent ? I have an Orion 2. It has two throttles.  I configured a slider for the third, made it the center engine, and a separate Ju-52 profile. That works indeed. Thanks again.

[MAJ_stug41]

Even if you use a separate lever for each throttle, hitting the brakes will still immediately bring the throttle down to the braking zone on that side's engine. The ju52 didnt have brake pedals. The brakes were automatically applied when the throttles were below a quarter position or so.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

13 minutes ago, MAJ_stug41 said:

Even if you use a separate lever for each throttle, hitting the brakes will still immediately bring the throttle down to the braking zone on that side's engine. The ju52 didnt have brake pedals. The brakes were automatically applied when the throttles were below a quarter position or so.

You have to delete the breaks. Before you do that create a separate profile for that plane and add it to the Ju 52 in profile assignments 

[MAJ_stug41]

2 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

You have to delete the breaks. Before you do that create a separate profile for that plane and add it to the Ju 52 in profile assignments 

Yes this also works.

[jollyjack]

On 12/28/2023 at 1:25 PM, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

.... In combination with my warthog Hotas ? unfortunately the trim wheel not works with Il 2 ?

 

Nice thing. If the trim wheel has an axis that can be set it might work as f.i. Rudder Trim in Plane Controls is working if i set my warthog's throttle inc slider (that grey thing on the right).

 

To get my axis' working for my TrackHAT sensor v2 i found (only with IL2, not DCS) i had to copy drivers NPClient.dll in System32 and NPClient64.dll in SysWOW MANUALLY in addition to the installation procedure for Opentrack v 3.2. Maybe there's a similar trick with your unit?

[Yogiflight]

On 12/28/2023 at 1:25 PM, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

unfortunately the trim wheel not works with Il 2 ?

To set my Saitek trim wheel in the settings, I first have to activate it by doing a little turn after I started my computer (it is activated, when I hear the Windows sound for a new controller, and I have to do it every time I start my computer) and then in the settings menu, I have to turn it about five full turns into one direction and then the same way back to zero and the same way to the other direction until it gets registered by the game. Maybe it is the same for your trim wheel.

[jollyjack]

Search box windows: Setup USB game controllers to see if the wheel is working at all?

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 hour ago, Yogiflight said:

To set my Saitek trim wheel in the settings, I first have to activate it by doing a little turn after I started my computer (it is activated, when I hear the Windows sound for a new controller, and I have to do it every time I start my computer) and then in the settings menu, I have to turn it about five full turns into one direction and then the same way back to zero and the same way to the other direction until it gets registered by the game. Maybe it is the same for your trim wheel.

Is that wheel an axis?

[Yogiflight]

3 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Is that wheel an axis?

Yes. I think to activate it in the settings it has to be turned completely up and down, like you have to do it with any controller axis. For the trim wheel this means a few turns into both directions.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

7 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

Yes. I think to activate it in the settings it has to be turned completely up and down, like you have to do it with any controller axis. For the trim wheel this means a few turns into both directions.

The trim wheel of the honeycomb throttle isn’t an axis, it seems to work other. You can turn it endlessly. However it work, Il2 can’t detect it.

[Yogiflight]

14 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

You can turn it endlessly.

You can turn the Saitek trim wheel endlessly, as well, but it does work as an axis. When it is assigned to the trim, I can open the axis menu and see how ther axis moves, when I turn the trim wheel. I also can set dead zones, like for axis levers (I wonder, though, if I could give it a dead zone at the middle). As I wrote, I can turn the wheel endlessly, but of course at some point the end of the axis is reached.

14 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

However it work, Il2 can’t detect it.

So you tried turning it several full turns in both directions to assign it to an axis?

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 minute ago, Yogiflight said:

You can turn the Saitek trim wheel endlessly, as well, but it does work as an axis. When it is assigned to the trim, I can open the axis menu and see how ther axis moves, when I turn the trim wheel. I also can set dead zones, like for axis levers (I wonder, though, if I could give it a dead zone at the middle). As I wrote, I can turn the wheel endlessly, but of course at some point the end of the axis is reached.

So you tried turning it several full turns in both directions to assign it to an axis?

Long time ago I gave up because I simply thought it doesn’t work ?

I have to check it again, thanks for your hints ?

[[CPT]Crunch]

If its an axis and the game can't pick it up, add it manually by line to the button axis master file in the data/input folder.  A virpil break lever isn't recognized either by the game since it activates a button response simultaneous and can't be assigned, but it physically works if you manually enter the axis text in the file. 

 

Assign the command for trim to a known controller button than find it in the file and replace it with the axis manually, test it in game, odds are it will work.

[JG4_Deciman]

On 12/28/2023 at 12:24 PM, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

For the Ju 52 I can recommend a throttle like that:

 

Than create an own profile for that plane, give every engine its own thrust lever and delete the breaks.

You will see you have a total other (better!!!) experience with that plane ?

My Setup for the Ju contains a yoke (including 1 of these)

and 3 additional of these...

 

So an axis for every engine with

- throttle

- mixture

- water coolers

- inlet (or outlet) coolers

 

Deci