5280magpie Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 One of my favorite things from long ago was the warping wings of SDOE. Without it I just don't loose the feeling of a static object with any of the planes.. Is it baked out of the realm of possiblilties?
Panzerlang Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, AOB said: What is SDOE? Screaming Demons Over Europe.
AOB Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Thank you. Never heard of that one. Was it pre or post CFS1?
Avimimus Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 9 hours ago, 5280magpie said: One of my favorite things from long ago was the warping wings of SDOE. Without it I just don't loose the feeling of a static object with any of the planes.. Is it baked out of the realm of possiblilties? I am not sure what you are talking about? The Fokker E.III has been announced as a future Collector Plane for Flying Circus - and it will have wing warping (just as it had in Rise of Flight). 6 hours ago, AOB said: Thank you. Never heard of that one. Was it pre or post CFS1? It came out one year after CFS1 (1999 vs. 1998)... all of which reminds me what a revolution Il-2 was two years later! I was very excited by the fact that it had a flyable Mosquito. But it had issues with realistic scenarios (Fw-190s are replaced by Me-262 part way through its Tobruk scenarios if I recall correctly!) It ended up being more of a sandbox because of its openness to mod tools/documentation and it eventually proved the basis for a good WWI mod (although the game engine is unstable on modern operating systems).
Duckman Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 12:37 PM, Avimimus said: The Fokker E.III has been announced as a future Collector Plane for Flying Circus - and it will have wing warping (just as it had in Rise of Flight). It came out one year after CFS1 (1999 vs. 1998)... all of which reminds me what a revolution Il-2 was two years later! Il-2 is the biggest leap I’ve witnessed in a genre. I guess Falcon 4 matches it for those who were around then. As for the Eindekker: YESSS!!! I assume it will have some pushers to play with.
Avimimus Posted December 29, 2023 Posted December 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Duckman said: Il-2 is the biggest leap I’ve witnessed in a genre. I guess Falcon 4 matches it for those who were around then. As for the Eindekker: YESSS!!! I assume it will have some pushers to play with. Yes: Airco D.H.2 and F.E.2b (already released). However, there will be a shortage of two-seaters which are slower than it (the F.E.2b can outrun the E.III if the Fokker doesn't have an altitude advantage)! We really need a slower two-seater (e.g. Caudron G.4, B.E.2c, Morane-Saulnier L), but none has been announced so far. 2
Duckman Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 On 12/29/2023 at 11:13 PM, Avimimus said: Yes: Airco D.H.2 and F.E.2b (already released). However, there will be a shortage of two-seaters which are slower than it (the F.E.2b can outrun the E.III if the Fokker doesn't have an altitude advantage)! We really need a slower two-seater (e.g. Caudron G.4, B.E.2c, Morane-Saulnier L), but none has been announced so far. So glad to hear about the DH2. First day purchase for me. As for slow two-seaters, while I love the look of the Caudron I think the BE2c should take precedence with 3500 built and its unfortunate starring role during Bloody April. But one can dream of both, and a Blériot XI to fly across the Channel with...
Avimimus Posted January 3, 2024 Posted January 3, 2024 21 minutes ago, Duckman said: So glad to hear about the DH2. First day purchase for me. As for slow two-seaters, while I love the look of the Caudron I think the BE2c should take precedence with 3500 built and its unfortunate starring role during Bloody April. But one can dream of both, and a Blériot XI to fly across the Channel with... Well, it may well be a dream to get any of them. I think the arguments for the Caudron are: - Twice the bomb-load, and a much more practical gun armament than the B.E.2c - The game only has one French designed two seater, Britain already has five! - France doesn't have a twin engined airplane (Germany and Britain already do). With 1400 produced there were half as many Caudrons as there were B.E.2 variants (and France had more two-seaters overall during this period, and used them more offensively - pioneering strategic bombing etc.) For these reasons I'd personally prioritise the Caudron ahead of the B.E.2c, although I think we could do with both (along with a German two-seater from the first half of 1916). Some more info can be found here: 1
No.23_Starling Posted January 6, 2024 Posted January 6, 2024 On 1/3/2024 at 5:32 AM, Duckman said: So glad to hear about the DH2. First day purchase for me. As for slow two-seaters, while I love the look of the Caudron I think the BE2c should take precedence with 3500 built and its unfortunate starring role during Bloody April. But one can dream of both, and a Blériot XI to fly across the Channel with... I wouldn’t get too excited if they port the old RoF FMs which had the Eindekker matching the DH2 in many respects and it getting out turned by the much heavier Albatros contrary to the science and several eye witness accounts. Part of the issue is the missing Fokker fodder (BE2c). If you want a sim that has all the relevant planes and more believable performance differences give WOFF a go. 2
Duckman Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 (edited) On 1/6/2024 at 3:26 PM, US103_Rummell said: I wouldn’t get too excited if they port the old RoF FMs which had the Eindekker matching the DH2 in many respects and it getting out turned by the much heavier Albatros contrary to the science and several eye witness accounts. There's a wing warping Morane-Saulnier G in a museum near me and it is beyond primitive. How anybody flew, yet alone fought, in those I struggle to understand. Could it really out turn an aileroned aircraft? As for the Caudron, I love its Pterodacyl looks and you are totally right that the French are underrepresented. Edited January 17, 2024 by Duckman 1 1
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