Was Camel engine durability changed in last update?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Seems like it damages from too much RPM more than it used to?  Was there a change (intended or inadvertent) in the last update?

 

Perhaps it's just poor flying on my part, but it seems more fragile. 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

1 hour ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Seems like it damages from too much RPM more than it used to?  Was there a change (intended or inadvertent) in the last update?

 

Perhaps it's just poor flying on my part, but it seems more fragile. 

I didn't noticed by myself, but heard from relatively new flayer. Which is not unusual.

[Gunfreak]

I've always found the camel's engine to be super sensitive.

I'm sure you can break it in real life. But I doubt it's made of glass, which is what it feels like.

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

11 hours ago, Gunfreak said:

I've always found the camel's engine to be super sensitive.

I'm sure you can break it in real life. But I doubt it's made of glass, which is what it feels like.

 

I don't find it's easy to break. It's reliable, can be damaged and still take you  home. Over revving is easy to manage, it come with expiernce. 

[Gunfreak]

1 hour ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

I don't find it's easy to break. It's reliable, can be damaged and still take you  home. Over revving is easy to manage, it come with expiernce. 

You can manage it, but I highly doubt the engine in real life would break in seconds if you go slightly past the max rpm in a tiny dive. 

Arthur Lee dived full throttle for several minutes to avoid a pack of huns. His Pup engine surived that just fine. In Flying Circus any such action in any plane that can overrev would break the engine is seconds.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

21 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

You can manage it, but I highly doubt the engine in real life would break in seconds if you go slightly past the max rpm in a tiny dive. 

Arthur Lee dived full throttle for several minutes to avoid a pack of huns. His Pup engine surived that just fine. In Flying Circus any such action in any plane that can overrev would break the engine is seconds.

You can pass slightly max rpm for short period of time. What is fatal is huge overrev without reducing rpm in time. 

[Gunfreak]

26 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

You can pass slightly max rpm for short period of time. What is fatal is huge overrev without reducing rpm in time. 

If you have full rpm do a very short dive(just to get your nose down on an enemy slightly below you) you'll kill the engine. It's a gamey addition to the sim because the developers feel it would ruin the game if you could full throttle more then a few seconds in a dive. Same reason they have given for the gamey timers added to WEP in the ww2 aircraft.

 

A few 1000 extra rpm every now and then should not break the engine. It might break the engine after weeks of abuse with too much rpm too often. But not this fake (oh 5 seconds too much rpm dead engine) 

 

As I said Arthur Lee dived for minutes with full throttle and his engine was fine. If the sim can't simulate realistic stuff like that, then it's wrong.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

18 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

A few 1000 extra rpm every now and then should not break the engine.

I presume you were thinking about 100 not 1000....

 

18 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

It's a gamey addition to the sim because the developers feel it would ruin the game if you could full throttle more then a few seconds in a dive. Same reason they have given for the gamey timers added to WEP in the ww2 aircraft

You already had own opinion before you started , why didn't you make a post in a appropriate section - dm model suggestions/bugs 

18 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

you have full rpm do a very short dive(just to get your nose down on an enemy slightly below you)

Yes , but I can't hit 1600+rps and pull throttle fast  to avoid damage.

To fly save you need to not go beyond 1600rpm. Blip the engine or reduce throttle.

 

I don't use it ,  but - You can save engine from damage by use a know " thing" by pushing mixture lewer to max and dive with full throttle.

Edited December 28, 2023 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[Trooper117]

When peoples lives were at stake in the real thing, and they were afraid of going to a fiery death with no parachute, being chased by a pack of Huns, you can bet 'your' life they didn't always think, better not over rev my engine... 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

2 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

When peoples lives were at stake in the real thing, and they were afraid of going to a fiery death with no parachute, being chased by a pack of Huns, you can bet 'your' life they didn't always think, better not over rev my engine... 

Maybe, but one thing that give you chance to escape and fly "home" is your aeroplane and odds for success are higher with working engine ?

[Trooper117]

3 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

odds for success are higher with working engine

 

Not when it's full of holes and on fire because you didn't push it to the max to escape, lol!

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

15 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

 

Not when it's full of holes and on fire because you didn't push it to the max to escape, lol!

Well from my virtual expiernce, the best escape from bullets and  fire is down hill - reduced rpms and fall as lief under the enemy belly. Control surface cross. You will be able to put the fire off , do not break wings or engine and be hard for enemy to angle  shoots.

 

Btw you know that, you can extinguish engine fire only by pulling the  throttle back, that works in a Dr.1 for sure.

Edited December 28, 2023 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

14 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

 

 

Btw you know that, you can extinguish engine fire only by pulling the  throttle back, that works in a Dr.1 for sure.

What??!!   I did not know that.   Thank you!