IAR 80-A

[taffy2jeffmorgan]

Hi All, Just bought this new Rumanian fighter, I find it fun to fly, take off and landing are good and the visibility from that bubble cockpit is excellent, she is very stable gun platform when ground attacking especially with the two 20mm canons. Not sure how well she will stand up to allied fighters. The 80-A would be an ideal aircraft for those wanting to learn the basics, she has to be one of the easiest fighters to taxi 

And a good introduction for those who are new to this superb combat flight sim.

 

Cheers

[ICDP]

In the correct scenario setting it will hold its own.  Early LaGGs, I16 and even early Yaks.  Against later model allied aircraft it is woefully outmatched unless you are in a low and slow turn fight.   This is no real different to expecting a 109E to compete with a P51 or Tempest.

 

The cannon armed versions make for decent anti bomber hunters though.

 

I am delighted you are enjoying it. ?

Edited December 26, 2023 by ICDP

[jollyjack]

Indeed a great plane to 'fly', but it needs a turbo add-on mod against dogfighting p51 etc ..

[[CPT]Crunch]

Let's call it a half bubble cockpit, like the back half ain't there, as in the worst rear views out of all single seat fighters. 

[MAJ_stug41]

The canopy couldnt be made any more bubble-y since the airflow already caused the canopy to pinch the rails with enough force to make it too difficult to open in a dive or at high speeds, like with most early and mid war russian designs. Thus, IRL, it was not unusual to keep the canopy open.

 

The IAR is also a tiny plane, little bigger than a 109. This is another case of there being no practical way with the resources available to make a better canopy. The canopy is actually pretty good for such an early design. Being blown from a single peice of plastic, not having any bracing structure obscuring sight.

[BlitzPig_EL]

I have found the IAR extremely vulnerable to enemy fire, even to rifle caliber light machine guns.  Also it seems to have a propensity to burn at the slightest provocation.  Can't find the fire extinguisher control in the key assignments anymore, or am I just imagining there used to be one? 

[=621=Samikatz]

Pleasant to fly for sure, though it very much lacks in power compared to a lot of its contemporaries. Probably a very good sparring partner for the Hurricane or I-16, has anyone tried that matchup yet?

[LukeFF]

47 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

I have found the IAR extremely vulnerable to enemy fire, even to rifle caliber light machine guns.  Also it seems to have a propensity to burn at the slightest provocation.  Can't find the fire extinguisher control in the key assignments anymore, or am I just imagining there used to be one? 

 

No, fire extinguisher controls have never been implemented for planes that had them.

[EduardoMCfly]

10 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

No, fire extinguisher controls have never been implemented for planes that had them.

Are you planning to implement them? 

[LukeFF]

11 minutes ago, EduardoMCfly said:

Are you planning to implement them? 

 

I've not heard of any plans to add them, no. 

[EAF19_Marsh]

It looks like a pre-teen F4U.

[EduardoMCfly]

4 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

It looks like a pre-teen F4U.

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[BB-Madman]

On 12/26/2023 at 12:57 PM, BlitzPig_EL said:

I have found the IAR extremely vulnerable to enemy fire

 

Yeah, this. I ran into a couple of them while flying a Yak-1B in a Kuban campaign. Remember the iron ass 109? Well, this ain't it. Fire a couple of rounds then dodge the flying control surfaces.....the elevators and rudder seem really weak.

[Avimimus]

I like to think of it as a counter-part to the I-16... a pre-war fighter design with limited engine power, which then gradually transitioned to being a ground attack aircraft, and lasted long enough to move from an interwar armament to one which included the now increasingly reliable autocannon.

 

It is nimble and a joy to fly (if you have automatic engine management on anyway), and is superior to the Ju-87 in many respects  - even if it isn't up to the capabilities of a Yak, it can still put up a very good fight if a pilot knows how to fly well.

[EAF19_Marsh]

10 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

and is superior to the Ju-87 in many respects 

That is not exactly selling it. Maybe add: “Not as crap as a Fairy Battle”.

[LukeFF]

The IAR 80 I am finding works pretty well as a dive-bomber, especially with the adjustable gunsight. You don't have to guess as much about how far the target is underneath your nose.

[=LD=Bulldog*]

Just treated myself to the IAR 80 and look forwards to getting to grips with it.

 

However, I have been trying to use prop pitch and it does not move. Is this modelled? Do I just use thottle and not go above 2,300 RPM or so? 

 

Ta!

 

Bulldog

[Weegie]

32 minutes ago, =IRFC=Bulldog* said:

Just treated myself to the IAR 80 and look forwards to getting to grips with it.

 

However, I have been trying to use prop pitch and it does not move. Is this modelled? Do I just use thottle and not go above 2,300 RPM or so? 

 

Ta!

 

Bulldog

 

For Prop pitch, I've got mine set up as buttons, one to increase one to decrease.

 

If you've assigned an axis it won't work.

 

It's similar to the 109 and some of the 190s (I think) if you fly them without the Kommandogerat (or whatever it's called)

Edited December 28, 2023 by Weegie

[=LD=Bulldog*]

Ahhhhhh!

 

Thank you!

 

BD

[Jaws2002]

I think the biggest issue with the IAR, in game,  is the bad rear visibility, specially in the later models, that have the addon armor. 

  the canopy is quite a bit wider in front than in the back and you should be able to see around the armor.

The head movement is pretty restrictive and I'm not sure the armor is to spec. It feels way to wide protruding forward. The head cushion sits inside that cup and it should almost fill the armor cavity.

 

I made a post about it back when the first cockpit development shots were released, but I don't know if something was changed.

Here you can see the cushion almost fills the armor. I have the feeling our armor is about twice as deep as it should be.  Maybe is just the perspective, or the restricted head movement.

 

 

Edited December 29, 2023 by Jaws2002

[Charon]

On 12/28/2023 at 9:56 AM, LukeFF said:

You don't have to guess as much about how far the target is underneath your nose.

 

You shouldn't need to guess with the Stuka either, as the Revi should have a -3° adjustment pre-set.

[Sheriff88]

On 12/28/2023 at 9:56 AM, LukeFF said:

The IAR 80 I am finding works pretty well as a dive-bomber, especially with the adjustable gunsight. You don't have to guess as much about how far the target is underneath your nose.

"Adjustable gunsight"? You mean you can set it for depression angle as well as Convergence distance and expected target wingspan? So that is found in weapons settings?

Edited December 31, 2023 by Sheriff88

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, Sheriff88 said:

"Adjustable gunsight"? You mean you can set it for depression angle as well as Convergence distance and expected target wingspan? So that is found in weapons settings?

 

Yes, it's the same command to move the gunsight that is also used in late-war 109s and the 262, and Il-2s.

[Sheriff88]

Thanks,Luke.

[YoYo]

Why is one gunsight in meters and the other in feet (btw. min is 40 feets?) and yards?

Edited January 2, 2024 by YoYo

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, YoYo said:

Why is one gunsight in meters and the other in feet (btw. min is 40 feets?) and yards?

 

The early gunsights were licensed-produced British gunsights and the latter were built in Romania.

[Carlos_K]

Could it be that the Force Feedback is different to other planes. Im using an Microsoft Sidewinder FFB 2 Flightstick and with the IAR80 the forces and effects are very low compared to other planes.  

[MeoW.Scharfi]

 

BTW:(i set the plane to godmode for the video, its not the actual Damage Model)

Edited January 3, 2024 by MeoW.Scharfi

[YoYo]

Btw. thanks for the IAR-80A, after the last fix-patch and getting to know it, I'm having a great time with this plane. It's not the "Iron ace in the Sky", it's slow and the basic version has weak weapons, but finally something different. Thanks for this model and although it was my longest pre-order in my life (over a year and as we know, it's not the end ?), it's nice that it finally appeared. Thanks again!