What is the next collectors aircraft you will buy?

[Blitzen]

Just give me a crew for the B-25 we already have…….pleeeeeeze ? 

I would like the Me-163-it was a fun addition to the original Il-2 Sturmovik way back when.

 

Edited March 6, 2025 by Blitzen
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[[CPT]Crunch]

All done collecting on this game, but soon it will be collecting dust.

[Antiguo]

B17.  ,B25   ,Lancaster,  DO 217  , DO 17 ,  IL 4 , Pe 8 

Edited March 7, 2025 by Antiguo

[fergal69]

On 3/6/2025 at 8:10 PM, [CPT]Crunch said:

All done collecting on this game, but soon it will be collecting dust.

Could also possibly go the way Cliffs of Dover went with a third party carrying on development, etc.

[Dutch2]

On 3/6/2025 at 9:10 PM, [CPT]Crunch said:

All done collecting on this game, but soon it will be collecting dust.

I do not hope they will not take the same route as with RoF. 

[sevenless]

Two of these have been announced as being worked on by third-parties for the Karelia career. Yes, I will surely buy them.

 

In fact I would buy all of those, if they manage to get them produced. Fingers crossed.

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

If many people buy this new expansion DLC, maybe the developers will consider to make more .. or let a third party do it?

Wishful thinking or a business reality?

[Vishnu]

2 hours ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

If many people buy this new expansion DLC, maybe the developers will consider to make more .. or let a third party do it?

Wishful thinking or a business reality?

My guess it's wishful thinking, but I totally agree with you!   I think there is a market for lots more WWII stuff, but for now it looks like Korea is going to be it for next 5-10(?) years.  I think Karelia and Odessa is the end.

Edited April 9, 2025 by Vishnu

[Aapje]

4 hours ago, Vishnu said:

My guess it's wishful thinking, but I totally agree with you!   I think there is a market for lots more WWII stuff, but for now it looks like Korea is going to be it for next 5-10(?) years.

 

Where do you get that idea from? We already know that after Korea they will go back to WW II, but at first in the Pacific. 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

8 hours ago, sevenless said:

Two of these have been announced as being worked on by third-parties for the Karelia career. Yes, I will surely buy them.

 

In fact I would buy all of those, if they manage to get them produced. Fingers crossed.

 

I too would buy all of those... however I do think the least interesting ones have been chosen first. The other three could be used on the Rheinland map in 1939/1940 scenarios in addition to the new Karelian map. I would especially love to see a D.XXI.

[Vishnu]

1 hour ago, Aapje said:

 

Where do you get that idea from? We already know that after Korea they will go back to WW II, but at first in the Pacific. 

My guess is they will milk Korea for all it's worth first.  And for reference, I use this metric for how long they will do Korea, before The Pacific.  Mind you, I'm purely speculating.

 

"the third generation of games in the series, IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles, which was released in November 2013 under the title IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad."  

     Wiki

 

 

 So,  IL 2 GB was 12 years from it's introduction to today.  I'm not saying it will be this long of wait for the Pacific theatre and its plane set, but history has shown, Korea will be here for quite awhile.

Edited April 9, 2025 by Vishnu

[=MERCS=JenkemJunkie]

Those expansions average about 2 years in between, and so far the announced plan is Korea > possible carrier mini-expansion > Pacific, so going by history it should be ~2-3 years after Korea if the mini-expansion slows things down. But development could be faster or slower in the new engine, or any other number of things can go wrong/right so who knows, but 5-10 seems too long.

[Jackfraser24]

15 hours ago, sevenless said:

Two of these have been announced as being worked on by third-parties for the Karelia career. Yes, I will surely buy them.

 

In fact I would buy all of those, if they manage to get them produced. Fingers crossed.

 

I'd buy all of them too but I think we'd need more planes for a highly accurate pilot career. But I made a promise not to suggest or speculate. I try to be a man of my word. 

Edited April 10, 2025 by Jackfraser24

[AEthelraedUnraed]

6 hours ago, Vishnu said:

My guess is they will milk Korea for all it's worth first.  And for reference, I use this metric for how long they will do Korea, before The Pacific.  Mind you, I'm purely speculating.

 

"the third generation of games in the series, IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles, which was released in November 2013 under the title IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad."  

     Wiki

 

 

 So,  IL 2 GB was 12 years from it's introduction to today.  I'm not saying it will be this long of wait for the Pacific theatre and its plane set, but history has shown, Korea will be here for quite awhile.

You're confusing generations, i.e. series, with individual titles. The Pacific module will belong to the same generation as Korea. The individual games in the GB series were released in 2013, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2022 and the upcoming final module in 2025. So that gives a much more reasonable metric.

[Jackfraser24]

10 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

You're confusing generations, i.e. series, with individual titles. The Pacific module will belong to the same generation as Korea. The individual games in the GB series were released in 2013, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2022 and the upcoming final module in 2025. So that gives a much more reasonable metric.

Should I expect development of the new series to go on until 2045? Sorry I'm a bit off topic here. 

Edited April 10, 2025 by Jackfraser24

[AEthelraedUnraed]

11 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Should I expect development of the new series to go on until 2045? Sorry I'm a bit off topic here. 

There's no way of knowing what future the Norns weave for us. How long the new series will go on depends on many things including how well it sells, the progress of gaming tech during that time, the state of the economy and possibly even geopolitics. Still, 2045 seems a bit too long considering the current series has a run of 12 years.

[Aapje]

11 hours ago, Vishnu said:

My guess is they will milk Korea for all it's worth first.

 

1CGS have told us that the roadmap has already been decided on, and that after Korea and the Carrier-module, they will do the Pacific. We also know that they are already doing the research, which they have to start doing well in advance, before they actually start implementing the module.

 

So we know that your guess is wrong.

 

Also keep in mind that the mini-DLC for Korea consists of work that will benefit them for the Pacific, since some carriers from WW II served in Korea as well.

 

11 hours ago, Vishnu said:

So,  IL 2 GB was 12 years from it's introduction to today.  I'm not saying it will be this long of wait for the Pacific theatre and its plane set, but history has shown, Korea will be here for quite awhile.

 

As others have said, you are comparing the life of a game engine generation to a module.

 

The way things work is that they make a single game engine that will be used for a lot of modules. The GB game engine was not just used for many different WW II modules, but also for WW I modules, and even for a tank-focused module.

 

During the lifetime of the game engine, they will keep improving it, and this will then benefit all modules, including those that have already been released. The game engine is not specific to Korea, and they can and will use it for different settings.

[Aapje]

5 hours ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Should I expect development of the new series to go on until 2045? Sorry I'm a bit off topic here. 

 

 

The goal of developers is to have their game engine be as long-lasting and flexible as possible. But there are a lot of reasons why this is very hard to do.

 

For reference, we have MSFS, that decided that they had to come out with a new engine after 4 years already, but also DCS, who did not make a clean break for 17 years now, with no sign of that changing very soon. Then again, the lack of good progress on many core features in DCS, raises the question whether they are not holding themselves back a lot by not going for a big, incompatible refresh.

[Dutch2]

On 4/9/2025 at 2:57 PM, sevenless said:

Two of these have been announced as being worked on by third-parties for the Karelia career. Yes, I will surely buy them.

 

In fact I would buy all of those, if they manage to get them produced. Fingers crossed.

 

The Fiat would be an instant buy, but would preferably the Macchi MC200 more. 
 

btw, I did have the opportunity to fly that Romanian IAR80 plane, and after my optimization is finished that will be my next buy. I can imagine, first impression what the hell is this obscure plane, but it’s a very good made plane, with a lot of variation in types. Can advise this to everyone if wanting an Eastern front WW2 DLC plane. 

Edited April 10, 2025 by Dutch2

[Gingerwelsh]

Gloster Meteot F3.

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[Jackfraser24]

1 hour ago, Gingerwelsh said:

Gloster Meteot F3.

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It would be nice to have a plane that can match the speed of those pesky V-1s.

[354thFG_Panda_]

Earlier p47 and p38

[CzechTexan]

P-39Q

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

HS-123

[BigC208]

On 4/9/2025 at 8:57 AM, sevenless said:

Two of these have been announced as being worked on by third-parties for the Karelia career. Yes, I will surely buy them.

 

In fact I would buy all of those, if they manage to get them produced. Fingers crossed.

 

I’d buy those Fokkers too, plus the DXXI.

 

[Vishnu]

On 4/10/2025 at 2:45 AM, Aapje said:

 

1CGS have told us that the roadmap has already been decided on, and that after Korea and the Carrier-module, they will do the Pacific. We also know that they are already doing the research, which they have to start doing well in advance, before they actually start implementing the module.

 

So we know that your guess is wrong.

 

Also keep in mind that the mini-DLC for Korea consists of work that will benefit them for the Pacific, since some carriers from WW II served in Korea as well.

 

 

As others have said, you are comparing the life of a game engine generation to a module.

 

The way things work is that they make a single game engine that will be used for a lot of modules. The GB game engine was not just used for many different WW II modules, but also for WW I modules, and even for a tank-focused module.

 

During the lifetime of the game engine, they will keep improving it, and this will then benefit all modules, including those that have already been released. The game engine is not specific to Korea, and they can and will use it for different settings.

Of course.  I understand that, but my point is they aren't just going to put out Korea and boom...move on.  I'm sure they will expand the plane set to collectors, campaigns, and maybe even at modules to it.   We don't know.

 

On 4/9/2025 at 9:30 PM, AEthelraedUnraed said:

You're confusing generations, i.e. series, with individual titles. The Pacific module will belong to the same generation as Korea. The individual games in the GB series were released in 2013, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2022 and the upcoming final module in 2025. So that gives a much more reasonable metric.

I'm not.   I understand that. My point is, Korea is going to be here awhile.    

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, Vishnu said:

I'm not.   I understand that. My point is, Korea is going to be here awhile.    

You said, I quote:

On 4/9/2025 at 11:52 PM, Vishnu said:

[...] for reference, I use this metric for how long they will do Korea, before The Pacific. [...] "the third generation of games in the series, IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles, which was released in November 2013 under the title IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad." [...] IL 2 GB was 12 years from it's introduction to today.

You literally say that the metric you use as a reference for how long it takes before they'll do their pacific module, is the entire lifespan of the current series. The devs have said that the next module will focus on the Pacific, not the next series. Implying that the development time of the entire current series of 5 modules (10 if you count FC and TC) is a good metric for how long it'll take to develop a single module in the new engine, is devoid of all reality.

Edited April 11, 2025 by AEthelraedUnraed

[Jackfraser24]

On 4/10/2025 at 10:36 PM, Aapje said:

 

 

The goal of developers is to have their game engine be as long-lasting and flexible as possible. But there are a lot of reasons why this is very hard to do.

 

For reference, we have MSFS, that decided that they had to come out with a new engine after 4 years already, but also DCS, who did not make a clean break for 17 years now, with no sign of that changing very soon. Then again, the lack of good progress on many core features in DCS, raises the question whether they are not holding themselves back a lot by not going for a big, incompatible refresh.

I see now. 

[Gingerwelsh]

On 4/10/2025 at 7:26 PM, Jackfraser24 said:

It would be nice to have a plane that can match the speed of those pesky V-1s.

 

Pesky V1's are easy meat for the F3.

Having said that. All the piston fighters used to attack V1's, are faster than their target if you are high enough.

V1's slow down with altitude.

Fighters speed up with altitude.

Go for the ones above 4000' and you will zoom past.

Shoot at up to 1000 yards.

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[Vishnu]

23 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

You said, I quote:

You literally say that the metric you use as a reference for how long it takes before they'll do their pacific module, is the entire lifespan of the current series. The devs have said that the next module will focus on the Pacific, not the next series. Implying that the development time of the entire current series of 5 modules (10 if you count FC and TC) is a good metric for how long it'll take to develop a single module in the new engine, is devoid of all reality.

Hey, I know.....Let's argue about it like we're on Twitter.... LOL chill out man.

[Jackfraser24]

8 hours ago, Gingerwelsh said:

 

Pesky V1's are easy meat for the F3.

Having said that. All the piston fighters used to attack V1's, are faster than their target if you are high enough.

V1's slow down with altitude.

Fighters speed up with altitude.

Go for the ones above 4000' and you will zoom past.

Shoot at up to 1000 yards.

..

Thanks for the tip. Still though I would have liked the Meteor F.3. Would have been really handy.

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Anything for FC.  Anything BoB, Anything Pacific.   

[JG4_Moltke1871]

20 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Anything for FC.  Anything BoB, Anything Pacific.   

[ST_Catchov]

Russian Parasol with dog.

 

 

Vive la France.

 

 

[Jackfraser24]

I've bought all the planes for Great battles. You should get the Ta-152. Can't do much other than dogfight, but it is a really good dog fighter. 

Edited April 15, 2025 by Jackfraser24

[KFX1]

As a die-hard fan of IL2 1946, I think just about any Pacific Theatre plane would be awesome. 

 

Naturally, F6 Hellcat, Zero, Corsair, Cherry Blossom, B17, and several other Japanese planes would be an absolute gold mine!

 

Can't believe I waited so long for this game!

[SARFlytitus]

A Fieseler Fi 156 Storch would be a insta-buy for me...

[A-E-Hartmann]

Luftwaffe: Hs 129, Fw189, BF109G-10 , Fw109A-9, BF110G-4, He-177, Do -217 M-1 , He 219 , He162. 

USAAF : B-17, B-24 

R.A.F : Lancaster, beaufighter,blenheim. 

[NooneYouKnow]

B-25, B-26(!), and probably anything else besides a transport, glider, U-2VS type recce planes (FW-189 exempted, lol). I would pay triple digits for a what if IL2 1946 type of FW-154. But alas, not likely, wouldn't fit, and the can of worms would be huge, lol

[Flashy]

I have more WW2 planes than I will ever learn to fly, so I will only buy extra WW1 planes now, especially early war 2-seaters.