Karelia map discussion

[LukeFF]

One package - two maps and eight planes. Anything beyond that would have to come from a third party. 

[Kapteeni]

Looks like we will not see Brewsters anytime soon. Karelia front needs FAF airplanes for early war scenarious plus voicepacks. 

[kraut1]

On 2/24/2025 at 9:01 AM, Kapteeni said:

Looks like we will not see Brewsters anytime soon. Karelia front needs FAF airplanes for early war scenarious plus voicepacks. 

Maybe I am wrong but from my understanding the guys who are working on the Fiat and the Brewster are the "third party" and we will get these planes?

But maybe not together released with the karelia map and the Odessa Planes?

Edited March 11 by kraut1

[Avimimus]

From what I gather: Work is being done on the aircraft. If they are completed to a sufficient standard the plan is to release them. However, the official announcement will wait until work is nearly complete.

 

The developers have said repeatedly that they don't want to announce things they aren't sure they'll be able to deliver - so they are waiting until just before release to make announcements. That is with regard to things they are completing themselves (where they have more control). With third parties who are independent, they'll likely be even more cautious about making announcements or opening pre-orders (because they have less control).

 

It would be wise to relax and let the third party modellers do their work. If you have the skills you can step forward and offer to make one of the other aircraft or assets - but otherwise the rest of us just have to wait until work is completed and it can be offered for sale.

[Kapteeni]

I really hope that they deliver. Maybe map first and planes later. I would gladly pay for each other, if they come as DLC:s!!

[Nickkyboy99]

Any updates regarding the Brewster? Maybe.. pictures, perhaps? 😁

[Jackfraser24]

Any chance of a Murmansk Map once the Karelian map is done? 

[LW_Pilot777]

Does anybody have full list of Finnish air force planes that `ll be made for karelia map ? or are planned to be ?

Edited March 1 by LW_Pilot777

[migmadmarine]

On 3/1/2025 at 3:13 PM, LW_Pilot777 said:

Does anybody have full list of Finnish air force planes that `ll be made for karelia map ? or are planned to be ?

I think the image Kraut reposted above is as close as we will get, with the G-50 and Brewster being worked on and aspirations for the Hawk 75, Fokker D.XXI and Blenheim. 

[BlackSix]

Please help us find detailed information about Finnish Air Force units:

[LW_Pilot777]

On 3/10/2025 at 6:22 AM, migmadmarine said:

I think the image Kraut reposted above is as close as we will get, with the G-50 and Brewster being worked on and aspirations for the Hawk 75, Fokker D.XXI and Blenheim

Too bad there is missing one of most important plane of both war (winter and continuation) the MS-406/MS-410 ... but maybe something will change I hope

Edited March 26 by LW_Pilot777

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

I am sure that a new batch of 8 planes for these maps would also sell well ...

I would buy it, no problem. I miss the HS123 ...

[GT-Katzenkorps]

2 hours ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

I am sure that a new batch of 8 planes for these maps would also sell well ...

I would buy it, no problem. I miss the HS123 ...

 

Finns had no HS123s, neither did Detachment Kuhlmey. 

[deathmisser]

It's been about 5 months since the last update on the G.50, is there anymore news to share and on other aircraft ? 

I'm really existed to see some Finnish aircraft for this map 

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, GasTeddy said:

 

Finns had no HS123s, neither did Detachment Kuhlmey. 

No they didn't, but the Finns had a lot of planes that the game will really need to make a complete pilot career mode. 

[deathmisser]

26 minutes ago, Jackfraser24 said:

No they didn't, but the Finns had a lot of planes that the game will really need to make a complete pilot career mode. 

Yes, hopefully the G.50 will be done by the release given the external model is already done, most of the Finnish aircraft will hopefully spark that interest again. As the Curtis, the MS-406 and the D.XXI can be used in the Battle of France, the Blenheim could be used for the North African front along with the G.50 and the C.202. 

 

Along with the Blenheim, the Hurricane MK.I, Do-17, ME-110E and the ME-109 E-4 this could create sparks for someone to create the Spitfire MK.I and Stuka B models For the Battle of Britain.

 

Oh and don't forget the Gladiators too, I know this is high copium and hopium who knows what the future holds with 3rd party dev's. 

Edited April 29 by deathmisser

[Jackfraser24]

4 hours ago, deathmisser said:

Yes, hopefully the G.50 will be done by the release given the external model is already done, most of the Finnish aircraft will hopefully spark that interest again. As the Curtis, the MS-406 and the D.XXI can be used in the Battle of France, the Blenheim could be used for the North African front along with the G.50 and the C.202. 

 

Along with the Blenheim, the Hurricane MK.I, Do-17, ME-110E and the ME-109 E-4 this could create sparks for someone to create the Spitfire MK.I and Stuka B models For the Battle of Britain.

 

Oh and don't forget the Gladiators too, I know this is high copium and hopium who knows what the future holds with 3rd party dev's. 

I hope you're right. 

[Jackfraser24]

On 2/24/2025 at 11:52 PM, kraut1 said:

Maybe I am wrong but from my understanding the guys who are working on the Fiat and the Brewster are the "third party" and we will get these planes?

But maybe not together released with the karelia map and the Odessa Planes?

I think we're gonna need a few more planes than this. But still I would like to see this one day brought to life in Great Battles, even if it is by a third party team.

 

 

[ITAF_Artiglio]

Maybe to make up for it now you could use these, At least until we see the map of Karelia..😁😉.:

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

😁

 

 

[Trooper117]

Let's guess what will happen shortly... Hmm 

[Jaegermeister]

14 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Let's guess what will happen shortly... Hmm 

 

You mean the "hide those markings" post from Luke?  

Yeah.... I guess he's not up yet

 

 

Edited May 29 by Jaegermeister

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

They still can make money producing new  FC airplanes and new engines variants for old aeroplnes, they are faster to made compare to WW2. 

[Kubert]

Maybe I am missing some historical context here, but I wonder why was decided to make Ju-87 D5, instead of B2 version. With early Yak, LaGG and I-153 on the way, I think early Stuka will be the last important aircraft missing in Battle of Moscow...and also in Siege of Odessa when released. Missing D5 version could be replaced by already existing D3(maybe?), but B2 version can not be replaced by newer version. 

[Sandmarken]

1 hour ago, Kubert said:

Maybe I am missing some historical context here, but I wonder why was decided to make Ju-87 D5, instead of B2 version. With early Yak, LaGG and I-153 on the way, I think early Stuka will be the last important aircraft missing in Battle of Moscow...and also in Siege of Odessa when released. Missing D5 version could be replaced by already existing D3(maybe?), but B2 version can not be replaced by newer version. 

The D3 could probably stand in as AI in the campaign, the same way it's done in Moscow. The bomb load can be restricted to 500 kg. The Ju-87 flown by AI is at least easy to shoot down, regardless of extra armor.

Most maps and multiplayer happen after 1942 and late war so the D5 might be more relevant aanyway. And iv seen people ask for the D5 more than the B2 in the forum 😅

[Aapje]

5 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

They still can make money producing new  FC airplanes and new engines variants for old aeroplnes, they are faster to made compare to WW2. 

 

I think that it depends in large part on what part of their team will have capacity, given that the Korea project probably won't require the same amount of work as a regular module.

[jollyjack]

Probably missed something, but if i understood rtight the Karelia Map is now called Leningrad, which i already bought as pre-release. 

Or is it a separate thing covering an included area? Any release dates known yet?

Edited July 19 by jollyjack

[Aapje]

Yes, they renamed it so more people would understand what the region is. S & L is in early access, and they will add more content when it is ready.

[Viktor33_33]

Could you tell me if a monastery will be built on the island of Valaam on Lake Ladoga?

[R7-S276]

any news about the project advanced and release date ?

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, R7-S276 said:

any news about the project advanced and release date ?

 

All news about the project can be found in our latest dev blog entries: https://il2sturmovik.com/news/

 

Release dates when they are finalized will be announced there. 

[YoYo]

Is there any chance of some screenshots of the models being developed?

[YR-AndreiTomescu]

I wonder: if not for a mod, the Finnish pilots will be speaking also german ?

[Sandmarken]

2 hours ago, AndreiTomescu said:

I wonder: if not for a mod, the Finnish pilots will be speaking also german ?

A dedicated faction with German or English default voices could utilize any sound mod made by the comunity without disturbing the German faction. There already is an Italian faction that could be used, but for this faction, voice sounds do not work at all!

[Jackfraser24]

4 hours ago, Sandmarken said:

A dedicated faction with German or English default voices could utilize any sound mod made by the comunity without disturbing the German faction. There already is an Italian faction that could be used, but for this faction, voice sounds do not work at all!

I honestly think that Finnish, Romanian and Italian voices need to be implemented into the game. It's a matter of necessity for realism (in my eyes). But whether the IL-2 dev team can do that, I don't know. 

[LukeFF]

No plans for Finnish language guys, sorry. 

[Sandmarken]

37 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

No plans for Finnish language guys, sorry. 

There is already a good mod for Romanian and Italian voices, and I can imagine that a Finnish one could be made as well. The problem is that as of now the only option is to replace the voices of the German faction. If the Italian faction was usable or a new one was made, we could replace the voices there instead, and then we could have the voices without the need to change back to German when we wanted to fly Luftwaffe. 

[YR-AndreiTomescu]

Finnish virtual pilots, it's time to get to work, I guess.....

there's an old, actually ancient arab saying : "If the mountain doesn't get to Mohammed, then Mohammed will have to get to the mountain".

So true.

[YoYo]

Will these additional planes like - Fokker 21, Buffalo, Hawk 75, Fiat G.50 and Blenheim be sold individually? Karelia has essentially become Leningard, so we won't get them with the EA title. So, will they be collector planes later?

 

 

[Arkkimaagi]

I hope Finland and Romania will at least have correct Finnish and Romanian names, ranks, medals, and such instead of using German ones.

[Sandmarken]

6 hours ago, Arkkimaagi said:

I hope Finland and Romania will at least have correct Finnish and Romanian names, ranks, medals, and such instead of using German ones.

If they are not getting their own faction i do not think that is possible in the career. 🤔