Development team stream (pre-stream discussion)

[Avimimus]

On 12/19/2023 at 4:36 PM, LukeFF said:

No, the last word I gave was it'll come when it's ready, which is likely between today the nineteenth, and before they go on Christmas vacation later this month.

 

It is worth noting that Christmas in the Russia is later in the year... so it could be closer to two weeks... and Luke would still be correct.

[Koziolek]

On 12/19/2023 at 5:36 PM, LukeFF said:

 

No, the last word I gave was it'll come when it's ready, which is likely between today the nineteenth, and before they go on Christmas vacation later this month.

Funny thing, the last I heard was "...when it's ready" and after that it was something like squashing a newspaper and a faint voice saying something like " I can't hear you, please repeat.." over and over again. I wonder what that was? ?

[BladeMeister]

2 weeks, be sure!

No Christmas for you!

 

S!Blade<><?

On 12/16/2023 at 8:26 AM, Trooper117 said:

 

I am a Jedi, every airborne soldier is a Jedi, so I know that's true, plus I definitely only have one ring.  

 

[Rjel]

Someone might want to mention to the team that "sometime this week" is over. Twice. ?

[Gambit21]

10 minutes ago, Rjel said:

Someone might want to mention to the team that "sometime this week" is over. Twice. ?

 

"Sometime this week" is never over!

 

[ITAF_Rani]

Next stream when ?

[Rjel]

3 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Next stream when ?

It’s just over the next hill pardner. 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Rjel
Spelling. And bad humor.

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Next stream when ?

 

You know the answer... ''sometime this week, be sure''

[ITAF_Rani]

[LukeFF]

Same answer as last time, guys. ? It is still coming, but the team wants to keep it a surprise as to when it will be released. Even I don't know when it's coming. ? 

[357th_KW]

At this rate, it will be such a big surprise no one will be left to watch it.

[354thFG_Leifr]

Worra joke, 1C classic...

[DD_Arthur]

3 hours ago, LukeFF said: It is still coming, but the team wants to keep it a surprise as to when it will be released. 

Why? What possible benefit can there be for them or us to do this? 
There is no surprise in doing something they have already announced they’re going to do. Giving  their community the runaround just makes them look foolish.

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 Even I don't know when it's coming. ? 

It’s a surprise.

 

Kind of like when the North Koreans crossed the 38th parallel. ?

 

 

[BladeMeister]

3 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

It’s a surprise.

 

Kind of like when the North Koreans crossed the 38th parallel. ?

 

 

No no, that's the other thread, not this thread.

 

S!Blade<><?

[deathmisser]

If anyone esle mentions Korea again then there will be a surprise attack 

[Rjel]

3 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

If anyone esle mentions Korea again then there will be a surprise attack 

Sooooo, will that come before or after the surprise announcement of "The Stream"?

[deathmisser]

29 minutes ago, Rjel said:

Sooooo, will that come before or after the surprise announcement of "The Stream"?

Idk I'm just sick of the Korea fans keep saying "oh it's korea it will 100% be Korea" then shuts down anyone else who think it will be a different aera. 

[Trooper117]

It's Korea... be sure ?

[deathmisser]

On 12/16/2023 at 12:13 AM, LukeFF said:

I know I'm stepping into a bit of a minefield here giving out dates, but...

 

The next update, as the last dev blog states, is on track to be released by December 19th. After that, the team will be on Christmas vacation starting on December 30th. So, realistically, you can expect the stream to be released sometime between those two dates.

I bet Firday the 29th as then they can get away from us quicker lol.

 

But no that date is a good one as we already have devblogs on a Friday plus it's close to the new year as well.

8 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

It's Korea... be sure ?

I would love to see your face when it not 

Edited December 27, 2023 by deathmisser

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

I think Korea also.  I remember when Han said he would like to do Korea, I think it was on ROF forum. Personally I'm ok with Korea since I came from WW1 genere to WW2 why not more jets now.. 

[deathmisser]

26 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

I think Korea also.  I remember when Han said he would like to do Korea, I think it was on ROF forum. Personally I'm ok with Korea since I came from WW1 genere to WW2 why not more jets now.. 

Yea I remember that but then again they saying they like to do Korea a year ago doesn't really mean that it will be the next one.

 

It could be Burma as most of it will be huts and forest so that something new in a larger area.

And it will add a new Axis member too Japan, it will be strange how belgium is more represented more than Japan.

 

[GOA_Karaya_VR]

At this point, i totally lost the hype of what will be the next module or new sim.. But if it is Korea, i will be more disapointed that now.

[deathmisser]

7 minutes ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

At this point, i totally lost the hype of what will be the next module or new sim.. But if it is Korea, i will be more disapointed that now.

Yea so would I, as CountZero mentioned Korea is well represented in other sims it would be a gamble for IL-2 to take at this point.

They also said the map will be a lot bigger than the biggest maps which will cover the whole of the peninsular. So rip lower end PC,

Would more Mustangs, IL-2, La, Migs  and US vs Russia be anything new at this point ?  

Edited December 27, 2023 by deathmisser

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, deathmisser said:

I would love to see your face when it not 

 

My face would be exactly the same as it is now... I'm not a petulant teenager who get's pissed off when he doesn't get what he wants.

If they for some reason have changed their mind and do something else, so what, I'll happily buy it if it's something I'm interested in, no problem with that.

I'm an adult, a grown up, with lots of interests in life, and as someone has mentioned, I've got DCS for some Korean fun if it doesn't turn up here.

However, I'd like a proper historical map with a fuller plane set and campaign to go with it...

 

[LukeFF]

The video is in the hands of our video editors now, so it shouldn't be too much longer.

[deathmisser]

22 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

The video is in the hands of our video editors now, so it shouldn't be too much longer.

The 29th seems a good enough guess then : D 

[ITAF_Rani]

22 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

The 29th seems a good enough guess then : D 

No must be today..!!?

[sevenless]

What will be the content? The Q+A collection? They don't need a stream for that.

[Mtnbiker1998]

All this hype just for a Q&A, that we were specifically asked to not ask questions about the "new project?" I doubt we'll even get any real info from this. 

 

At best, we'll probably get to hear about all the things they won't be fixing in GB because they've moved all their resources to this "new project" but don't worry, its coming soon(tm) and it'll be sooooooo great guys!

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, sevenless said:

What will be the content? The Q+A collection? They don't need a stream for that.

 

1 hour ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

All this hype just for a Q&A, that we were specifically asked to not ask questions about the "new project?" I doubt we'll even get any real info from this. 

 

At best, we'll probably get to hear about all the things they won't be fixing in GB because they've moved all their resources to this "new project" but don't worry, its coming soon(tm) and it'll be sooooooo great guys!

 

[deathmisser]

20 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

 

I thought you said you didn't know anythig lol.   ?

[Jade_Monkey]

1 hour ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

All this hype just for a Q&A, that we were specifically asked to not ask questions about the "new project?" I doubt we'll even get any real info from this. 

 

At best, we'll probably get to hear about all the things they won't be fixing in GB because they've moved all their resources to this "new project" but don't worry, its coming soon(tm) and it'll be sooooooo great guys!

 

I concur. Perfect recipe for a flop: lots of hype with a lack of info for the next project. 

 

They better not show empty handed with a video of someone just talking. There better be some visuals of the new tech or something in the pipeline.

[LukeFF]

39 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

I thought you said you didn't know anythig lol.   ?

 

I don't know when it's going to be released. ?

[deathmisser]

43 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

I don't know when it's going to be released. ?

Ture, tbh I was skipping most of the thread ?

Edited December 27, 2023 by deathmisser

[No105_Swoose]

 

[Gambit21]

 

12 hours ago, deathmisser said:

Yea so would I, as CountZero mentioned Korea is well represented in other sims it would be a gamble for IL-2 to take at this point.

They also said the map will be a lot bigger than the biggest maps which will cover the whole of the peninsular. So rip lower end PC,

Would more Mustangs, IL-2, La, Migs  and US vs Russia be anything new at this point ?  

 

Korea is not well represented in a modern sim. DCS has a few aircraft if you include the upcoming Corsair, and no map.

 

Regarding the IL2...well to be fair, we're not looking at the IL2 but rather the IL10.   How much of a difference is there? No idea.

Mustang...fair point.

 

MiG - well the MiG 15bis I'd submit is quite different, and compelling. 

La-11...I think this will go over well, especially but not exclusively with the Russian audience.  Same with the MiG 15...there's just nothing like it.

 

Now consider the F-86, F-84, P-80, Corsair, Yak-9p...the whole MiG vs F-86 thing. 

While nothing I'd personally plan on spending much time with it just due to other thing going on, and basically waiting for PTO/CBI... I do think it can do quite well for them, and a good revenue launching point for PTO after. 

I'm essentially indifferent to Korea, but I do have reason to think that's what's happening.

 

Map size isn't the problem with this engine, they have other problems to overcome. 

Edit: Granted small maps do run faster obviously, you need only run logic tests in the tiny maps vs larger maps to see this. 

[Trooper117]

What some of the critics forget about them doing a Korea setting, is that they won't be staying with Korea for years... they will return to WWII I'm sure, and with the things they will have improved and hopefully perfected, you will probably see a late Eastern Front setting, a move into carrier ops, Pacific or the Med etc... plus, all the things they could not do in the GB setting like drop tanks etc...

And don't forget, the surprise appearance of the Karelia map with the negotiations already in progress with the Devs, there may well be more aircraft in the works for that, which is probably going to be a big hit...

It's not all doom and gloom... but then we have the Dev team stream video to get through yet, hahaha!  

[Avimimus]

IMHO, if they do Korea, they should spend three or four years on it and give as a 1948-1955 European theatre as well... It'd let them provide a more complete plane set for Korea itself, as well as types that only served in Europe (e.g. Vampire, Venom, Il-28, La-15, Canberra, early Mig-17, later model F-86 etc.) Prior to 1955 the avionics aren't that complicated.

 

The problem with Korea is that the aircraft are almost all American (excepting the RAAF Meteor F.8 and some carrier based aircraft), and after the first couple of months the air combat is very one sided (both numerically, and technologically, with the exception being a handful of Mig-15 flying interception missions). I personally enjoy ground attack, so I might not mind that much...

 

A European scenario would balance the numbers, give more scenarios than close air support (e.g. intercepting Il-28 bombers), and a greater diversity of aircraft. It just makes sense to do both if one is going to do either.

[Trooper117]

15 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

after the first couple of months the air combat is very one sided

 

In real life yes, but this is a game, not real life, so you can play things out as you like.