Developer blog #354: R.E.8, Flying Circus Volume III updates, IAR 80 progress report

[Youtch]

10 hours ago, sevenless said:

Next ones for 24 are only minors (Spit IXc and Ta 152)

Ta 152 something minor?

 

I have ordered IAR80, but believe there are a lot of people who cannot wait for the Ta 152.

[EAF19_Marsh]

12 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

. So in conclusion, I would say, there is nothing quite like a WW1 crate. Not even close.

i take them home at weekends to meet my mother.

 

58 minutes ago, Youtch said:

…but believe there are a lot of people who cannot wait for the Ta 152.

i agree! It’s going to be great for the Stalingrad campaign. Can’t wait.

Edited December 3, 2023 by EAF19_Marsh

[BMA_FlyingShark]

1 hour ago, Youtch said:

there are a lot of people who cannot wait for the Ta 152.

I'm one of them and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[LuftManu]

1 hour ago, Youtch said:

Ta 152 something minor?

 

I have ordered IAR80, but believe there are a lot of people who cannot wait for the Ta 152.

I can't wait for it. It's something different from the normal 190 or 109. ?

[pencon]

If it ever shows up.

[EAF19_Marsh]

1 hour ago, pencon said:

If it ever shows up.

That’s just what the Luftwaffe said.

[Calos_01]

On 12/1/2023 at 11:24 PM, Lusekofte said:

After the gunner ai became totally useless and ai wingmen still not up for ww1 manoeuvring I was reluctant to buy FC 3. 
FC in general are best for online single seat fights

Yes, AI gunners are less than perfect (euphemism), but with FE it almost doesn´t matter, field of fire is...well...limited ?. I sometimes try it myself (invulnerability on of course) and it is almost impossible to hit one that attack from behind and not puncture own wing. I´m sure my AI pilot must be pissed at his useless gunner. ? But FE is real fun, something different, exactly.

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, pencon said:

If it ever shows up.

 

It's in beta testing right now, just like the blog entry says. ?

[Gambit21]

20 hours ago, Youtch said:

….but believe there are a lot of people who cannot wait for the Ta 152.

Well they’re going to!!!

?

[sevenless]

On 12/3/2023 at 11:18 AM, Youtch said:

Ta 152 something minor?

 

Yep. How many weeks available in SP career mode? 2 weeks? Surely a very interesting plane to check out, nevertheless.

[Jaegermeister]

14 hours ago, Calos_01 said:

with FE it almost doesn´t matter, field of fire is...well...limited ?. I sometimes try it myself (invulnerability on of course) and it is almost impossible to hit one that attack from behind and not puncture own wing. I´m sure my AI pilot must be pissed at his useless gunner. 

They learned early on that they had to fly in groups and stay in formation for mutual fire support. That was the birth of English formation flying. Before that, it was 1 or 2 scouts covering single observation planes. The “scouts” weren’t much better until summer of 1916 when they started getting Nieuports to replace the FEs. They kept using them because they just didn’t have anything else.

[Trooper117]

Ta-152... I'm assuming it will be the H version, as from what I remember that was the only version that reached production status?

I can see why the dev's chose to do this aircraft though... there are Luftwaffles waiting with eager wallets to get their hands on it.

To use the thing in game is a bit of a waste though isn't it?... I can't see Jerry cruising around plus 25,000ft waiting for those formations of B-17's that won't be showing up... (cue the angry mob of Huns to put me right)  ?

 

[MAJ_stug41]

31 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

To use the thing in game is a bit of a waste though isn't it?... I can't see Jerry cruising around plus 25,000ft waiting for those formations of B-17's that won't be showing up... (cue the angry mob of Huns to put me righ

Ya, as cool as the 152 is, there isnt much to do that isnt covered by the d9 where gameplay actually occurs. We're just going to end up with luftwaffles orbiting like back when this game was east front only ?

[LukeFF]

Yes, it'll be the H-1 version of the 152. 

[Youtch]

2 hours ago, MAJ_stug41 said:

Ya, as cool as the 152 is, there isnt much to do that isnt covered by the d9 where gameplay actually occurs. We're just going to end up with luftwaffles orbiting like back when this game was east front only ?

Even at low altitude a Ta-152 is not a Dora-9.

 

Ta-152 was the intended final design, Dora-9 was just an intermediate step, to reuse as much as possible previous Anton design.

[LuftManu]

5 hours ago, sevenless said:

 

Yep. How many weeks available in SP career mode? 2 weeks? Surely a very interesting plane to check out, nevertheless.

I think it's a good candidate for a Collectors plane then ?

Sure, there are other interesting aircraft such as an Storch or even some German bombers or even a late A20, but I think the Ta-152 is interesting as it's something different from what we have now. Honestly, I would love to see them all... ?

[CountZero]

Ta-152H with thouse big wings will be great at low level turn fights wth how things work in this game

[Youtch]

Not to mention that with its armament (MK108 1x30 + MG 151 2x20) it will be one of the fighter with the biggest punch in the game if not the biggest, dealing damage like an interceptor.

[ITAF_Rani]

Iar 80 cool plane to fly

 

Edited December 4, 2023 by ITAF_Rani

[migmadmarine]

On 12/4/2023 at 5:39 AM, Trooper117 said:

Ta-152... I'm assuming it will be the H version, as from what I remember that was the only version that reached production status?

I can see why the dev's chose to do this aircraft though... there are Luftwaffles waiting with eager wallets to get their hands on it.

To use the thing in game is a bit of a waste though isn't it?... I can't see Jerry cruising around plus 25,000ft waiting for those formations of B-17's that won't be showing up... (cue the angry mob of Huns to put me right)  ?

 

My understanding is that by the time it entered service the Luftwaffe was emphasizing rocket and jet types for intercepting the bomber streams so it historically wound up fighting Jabos near the deck anyway.

[LukeFF]

25 minutes ago, migmadmarine said:

My understanding is that by the time it entered service the Luftwaffe was emphasizing rocket and jet types for intercepting the bomber streams so it historically wound up fighting Jabos near the deck anyway.

 

It flew a handful of bomber intercept missions early on, but yes, by March/April 1945 it was primarily engaged in fending off low-flying aircraft around JG 301's airfields. 

[Gambit21]

On 12/4/2023 at 8:59 AM, LuftManu said:

I think it's a good candidate for a Collectors plane then ?

Sure, there are other interesting aircraft such as an Storch or even some German bombers or even a late A20, but I think the Ta-152 is interesting as it's something different from what we have now. Honestly, I would love to see them all... ?

Storch 

We have a flying example here.

Seems like it was in the air after about a 10 meter run. ?

[Avimimus]

On 12/3/2023 at 12:14 AM, sevenless said:

Yep. Last important one for WW2. Lets see how it turns out. Next ones for 24 are only minors (Spit IXc and Ta 152) and then its over.

 

Well, we don't know what happens after that... we know there will be additional product(s) and the developers have said that they continue to be interested in propeller driven aircraft...

 

Also, you forgot the I-153 Chaika has been announced... which was used well into 1943 and was actually quite effective as a ground attack platform in Kuban etc. Also there were over 3400 built... so not exactly minor.

 

 

  

7 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

Storch 

We have a flying example here.

Seems like it was in the air after about a 10 meter run. ?

 

It would be great with expanded artillery spotting gameplay (e.g. commanding multiple types of artillery, selecting the type of fire mission, being able to give different types of ranging commands via the radio menu).

 

  

On 12/3/2023 at 3:45 AM, LukeFF said:

 

...and the I-153 ?

 

Oh, I see Luke already mentioned it! But still, is it possible to mention the little gull too much?

[Gambit21]

8 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

It would be great with expanded artillery spotting gameplay (e.g. commanding multiple types of artillery, selecting the type of fire mission, being able to give different types of ranging commands…

Exactly!

I’ve always wanted this aircraft, and this sort of dynamic. Also beer runs to the next base over.

 

[Trooper117]

FW-189 is sorely needed... it served throughout the war, mainly on the Eastern Front, and Han stated he wanted to do it.

[Avimimus]

41 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

FW-189 is sorely needed... it served throughout the war, mainly on the Eastern Front, and Han stated he wanted to do it.

 

Really? I know there is a huge difference between a dev saying that they like something and them actually thinking it is a good idea to do... but it is still really nice to know that other people want the same aircraft

 

Excellent forward visibility and a very good defensive armament (at least in the later versions)... I believe it is relevant to Moscow and Stalingrad, but was being pulled back by Kuban (at least from daylight spotting work - there were night-fighter conversions in 1944 I believe).

 

It also says something that Eric 'Winkle' Brown (who flew 487 types of aircraft in his career) chose the Fw-189 as his personal liaison aircraft commuting between test sites at the end of the war.

[migmadmarine]

Yea, I'd love to see the Storch, Fw-189, Piper L-4 and Taylorcraft Auster added to use with the artillery spotting, visual/photo recon, and I am sure you could make some good liaison mission types around having to locate and land near friendly units. 

[Trooper117]

16 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Really?

 

Yes really...

[Lusekofte]

18 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

FW-189 is sorely needed.

Well I do not disagree with you. But it is more like a sorely needed recon functionality. 
I love the PO 2 but it’s earlier lack of levelbomb use and now this stupid levelbomb sight that got nothing to do with the plane and absolutely nothing else to do with the plane make it almost useless. Only the coolness make me fly it. 
There should be an artillery mechanism about. And all I wanted for aiming devise was to lean out and use the bomb aim devise PO2 had. Like a lean to sight functionality. 
In my point of view these non realistic things bear no weight. While other things do.