Flaps button assigment

[Barn-Owl]

So I recently bought the Virpil Control panel to add to my Virpil Mongoost-50 throttle and to my Virpil stick and rudder.  I thought of adding an "axis to button" on the control panel for the bf109 flaps, which now works fine as expected.  The trouble is as follows: while the bf109 flaps axis on the control panel works as expected, this, somehow, deactivates my prior flaps button mappings on my throttle!  Why should these two separate USB devices conflict when it comes to buttons assignments within the game?   I do not know why this happens.  This crap only happens with IL-2 mappings, all else is good with other games.  Note: when it comes to using the control panel within IL-2, I am only using the "axis to buttons mode" on one of the axis, I am not even using the multiple other buttons/axis that the control panel has!  This game's UI when it comes to buttons mapping is so crappy compared to all other flight sims out there, as the developers cannot keep up with the hardware technology that is out there.  Can anyone make any recommendations on how to get this game to recognize these two separate controls and to allow both controls to serve the buttons commanded on both controllers (even if the buttons on both controllers serve the same function)?  I want to be able to use the flaps axis for the bf109 (on the virpil control panel) and the flaps up/down buttons mappings for the Yak on my virpil throttle.  I do hope that there is someone out there who can help me with this and not direct me to yet another program like vjoy/joystick gremlin....  Thanks.

[giftgruen]

And why dont you assign different button mappings to Yak and Me109 ?

Imho IL-2 Button mappings are quite convenient cause you can assign different mappings to different planes.

 

I do so - for example I have a "general" mapping for WW1 fighters, WW2 fighters, WW2 FighterBombers as a base - and then make 'fine adjustments' for specific planes.

I have VKB controls, not Virpil. But the principle should be the same.

[Barn-Owl]

I do not know what exactly you are saying: of course every plane has "specific" button mappings that fit what needs to be mapped.  As stated in my post, I have a problem with mapping the same function to two different USB devices, in this case affecting the 109 flaps.  This game is not like DCS, where you can map every plane separately.  Besides, even with different planes, you would want some uniformity with buttons mappings.  

[cardboard_killer]

7 minutes ago, Friction said:

As stated in my post, I have a problem with mapping the same function to two different USB devices, in this case affecting the 109 flaps.

 

Can you please post a screen shot of your mapping of the 109?

 

7 minutes ago, Friction said:

This game is not like DCS, where you can map every plane separately.

 

I don't have DCS, but you can map every plane separately in IL2.

[Barn-Owl]

As seen below: I have the flaps doubly mapped to two separate USB devices, one being a throttle, the other being the control panel.  When I do this, the control panel works, but then this deactivates the flaps up button on the throttle!  This should not happen, as they are two separate devices connected via two separate USBs.  Only happens in IL-2!

[cardboard_killer]

1 hour ago, Friction said:

Only happens in IL-2!

 

IL-2 has an 8 device limitation. I am thinking that you have exceeded that number of input devices, which causes IL-2 to do weird things. Search this forum for more information on that device limit to see if it applies to your situation.

[Barn-Owl]

all I am using are the following: rudders, stick, throttle and control panel.  Add mouse and keyboard plus VR.  That is it.

[cardboard_killer]

It is odd then that you have a joy9 device code. I did just notice that the screenshot is your global settings. If you use the drop down menu you can access your 109 setting for a screenshot there.

 

Edited November 24, 2023 by cardboard_killer

[Barn-Owl]

I assigned this profile to all 109s.  I have IL-2 on two separate rigs, but they are never on at the same time.  Wonder if that has anything to do with it....

[Charon]

I agree it's weird that this is numbered joy9, but if buttons on both devices are working in some circumstances then I guess that's not it.

 

The other idea is that one of these four buttons is always on.

 

I've got four buttons (on two different devices) bound to my flaps and it works fine. One is an (On)-Off-(On) toggle switch, and the other an On-Off-On toggle switch. If I leave the later in the up or down position then the other toggle will stop working fully until I reset it to neutral (Off).

[Barn-Owl]

Not a bad thought, Charon, but the button activates (on) only when pressed, I have confirmed this within the Virpil software....  Oh well, nice thought anyhow.  The game is certainly playable, just frustrating not being able to take advantage of the purchased hardware...

[cardboard_killer]

I would contact virpil at this point.

[Barn-Owl]

don't really see the point of that, as all works in other sims, so I have to think that this is IL-2 specific.  Oh well, still playable, just not optimal for all of the hardware...

[cardboard_killer]

Perhaps seeing your devices.txt file will help. I suggested virpil because they may know why there's a problem in the second most popular flight sim, even if they don't have a solution because it's a limitation of the IL-2 engine.