Tempest.

[Lusekofte]

Probably the wrong place to post. Over the years I discovered that this is probably the best forum to ask about ww2 aviation. 
The fume problem inside cockpit of Typhoon was solved by using oxygen mask from the time they closed the canopy to they opened it again. 
Was this problem adopted by the Tempest? Or did they solve this issue? 

[ShamrockOneFive]

I used to remember the details of this better than I do now but if memory serves... the problem was never fully resolved and Tempest pilots tended to keep their oxygen masks on.

[Raptorattacker]

I think Shamrock's right. It was a 'masks on' scenario...

[ShamrockOneFive]

It may well have been too that the later models had solved the problem but pilots didn't trust it so they kept up the procedure. On that I don't know but there's something about that in the ole memory banks

[Raptorattacker]

I think you're right again! 

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

I remember reading that the Napier Sabre was deafening too from inside the cockpit.

 

Oh and btw guys there's an Airworthy Mark II, with a Centaurus powering it, its finally fully restored. Its mind boggling that there is an airworthy Mark II but no Mark V right now.

[357thFG]

 

[ZachariasX]

1 hour ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

I remember reading that the Napier Sabre was deafening too from inside the cockpit.

 

Oh and btw guys there's an Airworthy Mark II, with a Centaurus powering it, its finally fully restored. Its mind boggling that there is an airworthy Mark II but no Mark V right now.

Actually, the Tempest Mk.II were in service longer and the engine was also in use with the Sea Fury (some of which are sitll airworthy today), making it far easier to restore.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

4 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

I remember reading that the Napier Sabre was deafening too from inside the cockpit.

And in addition to that, I've heard it would blow hot air right into the cockpit. Nice thing to have in winter, I guess.

 

IIRC, they sort of kinda almost-ish solved the CO2 issue on the later Typhoon models, but never entirely. Just to prevent any possible accidents, the pilots would keep on their oxygen mask.

[blockheadgreen_]

The Sabre is an absolutely crazy sounding engine, though the audio of it that exists is rather poor.

 

(from 0:40)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UOeWUxrPw3Y&si=p8Lljlbpiw_sCotb

[EAF19_Marsh]

It was I think pseudo-solved in the sense that it would unlikely to incapacitate a pilot but never to the point where it changed official policy. Am sure below 10,000 ft lots of pilots left their masks off ('cos 20-somethings gonna 20-somethin')

 

See Scott / Sheddan etc.

[Mtnbiker1998]

11 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

('cos 20-somethings gonna 20-somethin')

 

Those "20-somethings" back then were far braver men than most of the people throwing around the phrase "20-somethings" today lol

[BlitzPig_EL]

In the USAAF during WW2 if you were in your mid to late 20s, you were considered "The old man".

[EAF19_Marsh]

On 10/16/2023 at 4:41 AM, Mtnbiker1998 said:

Those "20-somethings" back then were far braver men than most of the people throwing around the phrase "20-somethings" today lol

It was meant in the toungue-in-cheek way that I hope they would have appreciated.

 

I briefly - and likely undeservedly - wore an RAF uniform at university. I remember being a 20-something in an aircraft (actually 19 initially). They were heroes but they were also young and cocky and I expect tended to ignore a lot of rules.

 

My father and uncle were RAAF pilots in the ‘60s. Their stories suggest that regulations were something that happened to other people.

[percydanvers]

On 10/10/2023 at 9:01 PM, ShamrockOneFive said:

It may well have been too that the later models had solved the problem but pilots didn't trust it so they kept up the procedure. On that I don't know but there's something about that in the ole memory banks

 

From what I recall this is correct

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

The restored Mark II with a Bristol Centaurus finally flew on Oct 10th. She's a beauty, go check it out on YT guys.

 

Now hopefully the Mark V restoration project will get back on track.