psb Templates vs psd Templates

[WWDarkdiz]

Hey folks:

The stable version of GIMP does not support this psb files, and the developmental version does not FULLY support them.  Is there any way we can stick to psd files (something that GIMP can work with)? I can't afford paying the outrageous amount Adobe wants for Photoshop

 

Thanks

[BOO]

3 hours ago, WWDarkdiz said:

Hey folks:

The stable version of GIMP does not support this psb files, and the developmental version does not FULLY support them.  Is there any way we can stick to psd files (something that GIMP can work with)? I can't afford paying the outrageous amount Adobe wants for Photoshop

 

Thanks

Are there any PSB files?

 

I only had a quick look around at some of the most likely ones (0/400 for example) and thats a PSD file. 

 

At present it seems GB templates are well under the 30Kx30K pixel, 2GB limit of PSD. 

[WWDarkdiz]

9 hours ago, BOO said:

Are there any PSB files?

 

I only had a quick look around at some of the most likely ones (0/400 for example) and thats a PSD file. 

 

At present it seems GB templates are well under the 30Kx30K pixel, 2GB limit of PSD. 

The Nieuport 11 is a rar file, decompresses into a psb file. I had to find a developmental version of GIMP (2.99.16), install it, open the psb file in that (opened, but there was a message that said this version is not fully compatible and that it may not fully open all of the file), save it as an xcf file (GIMP native format), and then open this xcf in GIMP 2.10. Yes, it opened, but all of the layers are in Russian, so it is difficult to figure out what each layer is. Also, all of the included skins are in there (the ones already in-game, the "official" ones, not sure if the devs want that, as far as I can tell this is the only one that I have seen that includes the official skins.

I REALLY think that this template needs to be reworked, and re-released, there is NO need for it to be a psb file.

I tried to work with this template, gave up in frustration after several hours, went to the Sopwith Snipe template, had a working skin within 30 mins

[BOO]

Yup Gimp hates PSB and large files in general - I ended up subscribing to PS for DCS for that reason. 

 

In the case of the Neuport though its seems to be an error as the HalberstadtD2 released on the same date is a PSD. 

 

Perhpas report it in the bugs/assistance section. They have potentially put the wrong  file up. 

 

 

 

[WWDarkdiz]

5 minutes ago, BOO said:

Yup Gimp hates PSB and large files in general - I ended up subscribing to PS for DCS for that reason. 

 

In the case of the Neuport though its seems to be an error as the HalberstadtD2 released on the same date is a PSD. 

 

Perhpas report it in the bugs/assistance section. They have potentially put the wrong  file up. 

 

 

 

I think it is a bug, I'll mention it in the bugs section

[LukeFF]

I'll ask about this. Thanks!

[WWDarkdiz]

5 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

I'll ask about this. Thanks!

It just doesn't make sense, since the in-game skins are there as well, and trying to figure out the cyrillic... well, you get the picture (no offence to the cyrillic folks of course).

I recommend it be taken down, and reworked, along with any other psb file (its really not needed, since the files are quite happy as psb/xcf)

Edited September 28, 2023 by WWDarkdiz

[LukeFF]

Yes, I'll see what they say. ?

[szelljr]

The N11 template is a very god template.  ?

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2023 by szelljr

[E69_julian57]

Hello
The important thing is to have many layers to be able to work on them.
If it is in Russian or English (non-native languages for me) I don't care in my case.
I hope the developers hear us.

[WWDarkdiz]

Clearly the more layers the better,  but at least don't have it so you have to guess at which layer is the right one. I spent several hours on the N11 trying to figure out which was which, finally gave up in frustration

[BOO]

1 hour ago, WWDarkdiz said:

Clearly the more layers the better,  but at least don't have it so you have to guess at which layer is the right one. I spent several hours on the N11 trying to figure out which was which, finally gave up in frustration

Whem i converted text for the template for the DCS B17, i found it easier to start with the groups then burrow down from there. In most templates there is a logic that starts to become instincive. Heck i even learned to recognise cryllic words.

 

2 hours ago, E69_julian57 said:

Hello
The important thing is to have many layers to be able to work on them.
If it is in Russian or English (non-native languages for me) I don't care in my case.
I hope the developers hear us.

 

I remember the 2K stock 109Fs had some nasty intertwined weathering layers.  The GB templates now are some of the best around. 

[JG1_Vonrd]

The DCS B-17 template layers are also in cyrillic. Although a PITA, I copy / pasted the group / layer titles into Google translate which gave me a better idea as to what they were. Still, a template released should have more language options. 

[BOO]

Just now, JG1_Vonrd said:

The DCS B-17 template layers are also in cyrillic. Although a PITA, I copy / pasted the group / layer titles into Google translate which gave me a better idea as to what they were. Still, a template released should have more language options. 

 

More languages!!!?? - absolutely not - King's english ole boy or nothing at all. Afterall everybody speaks the King's english and if they dont well.....they jolly well ought to!

 

Ultimately, most templates will get adjusted to suit the user. What language is used and converting it is a part of the process i think.  Lets face it, someone has already done  the vast majority of the work we all get nice comments for so its not really so much of a hardship. 

 

I dunno about you but the cryllic and having to work stuff out actually made me consider the layers more. 

[JG1_Vonrd]

2 minutes ago, BOO said:

I dunno about you but the cryllic and having to work stuff out actually made me consider the layers more. 

True.

Some of the layers are so subtle or apply to a very small area on the layer that it's difficult to see what they are used for and seeing the title in "The King's English" ? gave me a better clue as to what they're about.

[LukeFF]

Update from the developers: according to our QA lead, the .psb format is used because it is handy for large files, and Photoshop CS6 and 2020 handle it well. Compatibility with GIMP unfortunately is going to be hit or miss.