Serial number alignment problems in the fuselage...

[ITAF_Artiglio]

Hello everyone, I don't know if there already exists a topic relating to this type of problem I'm facing, I searched the forum but without success, so I decided to open one myself, to submit the problem to the experts in this field...

 

I attach a screenshot to give a better idea of what I want to say...
Let's get to the point with the update from some time ago I noticed an inconsistency linked to the serial numbers shown on the fuselage of the Macchi MC-202, ergo from right to left both the way of reading and above all the arrangement of the numbers on the left side of the fuselage changes it should be the correct one, i.e. for examples as per the screen: Serial number: 3561, now from the right side of the fuselage it should always read 3561 but this is not the case... the wording on the right side of the fuselage shows... 1356 which is basically a 'another thing... at least in "ITALIAN"

 

However, if we adopt only the first two characters of the serial we say that the report can be acceptable, if only the two parts coincided... e.g.: I always report what is in the screenshots...

Left side fuselage of the Macchi MC.202 serial number reads "05"
The right side is displayed correctly, i.e. reading it from left to right it is correct, there is only a collimation problem... serial 05 on the left side is displayed half inside the yellow fuselage band and half, i.e. the external "0" to the band, while on the right side it is correctly shown in the yellow fuselage band.

Now I ask, is it possible to correct this opprobrium?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[R33GZ]

The problem is something to do with the flight number. Versus the squadron number?

 

The flight number (5) will always be at the rear of the fuselage and the squadron number (150) at the forward end of the fuselage. Not sure if that's historically correct or not. You'd have to do some serious photo trawling to try and find out I guess

[-TBC-AeroAce]

1 hour ago, R33GZ said:

The problem is something to do with the flight number. Versus the squadron number?

 

The flight number (5) will always be at the rear of the fuselage and the squadron number (150) at the forward end of the fuselage. Not sure if that's historically correct or not. You'd have to do some serious photo trawling to try and find out I guess

That does not work for the 05.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

2 hours ago, R33GZ said:

The problem is something to do with the flight number. Versus the squadron number?

 

The flight number (5) will always be at the rear of the fuselage and the squadron number (150) at the forward end of the fuselage. Not sure if that's historically correct or not. You'd have to do some serious photo trawling to try and find out I guess

Good point. I've done some googling, and I was able to find two photo's of the same aircraft, aircraft 1 of squadron 374:

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/MC-202/MC-202-153G/pages/RA-Regia-Aeronautica-Macchi-MC202-Folgore-153-Gruppo-Auto-374Sqa-374-1-Sicily-1942-01.html)

 

(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/macchi-mc-202-folgore-51-stormo-153-gruppo-374-squadriglia-no-374-1-sicily-1942.31139/)

 

As you can see, on the left side it shows 3741 and on the right side 1374. So IL2 is correct regarding the ordering of the numbers.

However, this does leave the issue of the placement. In all pictures I've found, the squadron number is completely outside (usually in front of) the yellow band, while the flight number is inside it (occasionally both are inside the yellow band). Maybe this is for technical reasons, similar to the smaller than historical markings on German fighters?

 

1 hour ago, -TBC-AeroAce said:

That does not work for the 05.

Since 05 is a bit nonsensical as a combined flight+squadron number

[ITAF_Artiglio]

11 hours ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Good point. I've done some googling, and I was able to find two photo's of the same aircraft, aircraft 1 of squadron 374:

(https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/MC-202/MC-202-153G/pages/RA-Regia-Aeronautica-Macchi-MC202-Folgore-153-Gruppo-Auto-374Sqa-374-1-Sicily-1942-01.html)

 

(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/macchi-mc-202-folgore-51-stormo-153-gruppo-374-squadriglia-no-374-1-sicily-1942.31139/)

 

As you can see, on the left side it shows 3741 and on the right side 1374. So IL2 is correct regarding the ordering of the numbers.

However, this does leave the issue of the placement. In all pictures I've found, the squadron number is completely outside (usually in front of) the yellow band, while the flight number is inside it (occasionally both are inside the yellow band). Maybe this is for technical reasons, similar to the smaller than historical markings on German fighters?

 

Since 05 is a bit nonsensical as a combined flight+squadron number

The fact is that in many other models that I found on the internet the placement of the serial numbers is correct, I don't know why it was reported in that way on that model. However, I believe that there is a straightening out of the serials also because as they are it is a bit of a tangled mess according to my ignorant thinking... ?

 

I'm posting images in which I think the serials should appear... then if they're wrong then I've said nonsense...?

 

 

 

Furthermore, in the images you posted, a substantial difference can be seen in what we have in the Sim today. That is, the fuselage serial number 374-1 is easily decipherable as the number 1 shown in red specifies the difference, on both sides shown on the white band which highlights the serial number with the right distance between the 374 and the 1. In Il2 therefore the 5, if we want, had to be reported on the yellow band and the 150 externally so that it created that detachment, if we want, also historical of the matrix of the squadron numbers.

 

I took the 05 you mentioned as an example although unlikely but not entirely far from reality... the fact is that in some images I have versified the exact position and this appears only and exclusively on the aircraft destined for the Russian front by of the Royal Air Force... "I attach image...."

Having said that, we Italians, as mentioned above, are really complicated, we like to make our lives complicated ??

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by ITAF_Artiglio