The status of the yet-to-be-announced title

[deathmisser]

8 minutes ago, Sgt_Joch said:

 We all know you are pushing for Burma. Personally, I have no interest in Burma.

 

What would interest me about the Pacific would be carrier ops, but for all the reasons which have been discussed already in other threads, it does not look like the team is willing to tackle such a massive project which is why people keep coming up with possible land based compromises like Burma or New Guinea, but personally I don't see that happening.

 

Korea ticks all the boxes: land based, reasonable sized map, interesting plane mix, plenty of reference material, etc.

I respect your opinion m8 but hey at least we some of us are right as it will be out of the 2 options. ? 

[tattywelshie]

10 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

I understand you can't tell us where just yet, but any chance you could tell us if anyone (obviously without saying who) has quessed correctly?

He has already, a few pages back, he said some people had guessed correctly.

[CountZero]

9 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

I respect your opinion m8 but hey at least we some of us are right as it will be out of the 2 options. ? 

If they planed to do PTO they would start with Midway like CP is doing now, you dont make first PTO game with some Spitfiers vs Kawasakis, or no Zeros or Cats in some Guinea... if they make new game with asian side of ww2 its gona be soviets vs japan, and i highly doubt they gona do Manchuria 45 or 39 where thats posible. 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Russian planes, prop driven, land based, not done before.    Seems like a few check boxes checked imo

[I./ZG1_HeTzeR]

Im repeating myself but after reading all the hints, I stick with Norway(or Scandinavia)

Edited September 28, 2023 by I./ZG1_HeTzeR

[deathmisser]

47 minutes ago, I./ZG1_HeTzeR said:

Im repeating myself but after reading all the hints, I stick with Norway(or Scandinavia)

I would love that part of the world or even if it's Finland and Estonia area.

 

But yea I taken measurements from the BON map and from Rochester to Paris it's 326 Km.

From Dunkirk to Cancale it's 401 Km. So this map has to be around 6-700Km which is massive.

 

I've done more and cost to cost at max with Korea is around 400K so no issue there.

From the NK-C border to the south coast it's 840K which sounds like it is really doable.

Edited September 28, 2023 by deathmisser

[Koziolek]

2 hours ago, tattywelshie said:

He has already, a few pages back, he said some people had guessed correctly.

yeah, we tried so many theaters that one of them must be true?

[duko]

Release the IAR, everyone will shut up at least one month  ?

[LukeFF]

1 minute ago, duko said:

Release the IAR, everyone will shut up at least one month  ?

 

Scheduled for the end of the year. ?

[tattywelshie]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

Scheduled for the end of the year. ?

If you were a betting man...would you say we'd have the IAR before or after the 'announcement'? 

[LukeFF]

14 minutes ago, tattywelshie said:

If you were a betting man...would you say we'd have the IAR before or after the 'announcement'? 

 

Not going there at all. ? 

[Mysticpuma]

It was interesting to hear Jason Williams discussing new tech like PBR textures and God rays for his new Sim

I guess starting from scratch and not having to import old assets can really be a bonus ?

[kendo]

18 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

It was interesting to hear Jason Williams discussing new tech like PBR textures and God rays for his new Sim

I guess starting from scratch and not having to import old assets can really be a bonus ?

 

 swings and roundabouts  ?

 

Interesting choice to make - ability to use all the old content (and with much better visuals, because they said they were redoing that aspect too) but no PBR, or PBR in a totally new sim with only 10 aircraft, and then have to build back up again in theatres and aircraft over the next 10 years....

Edited September 28, 2023 by kendo

[Art-J]

8 hours ago, deathmisser said:

 

Don't tickle me with boomerang and the Australian Mustang.  

 

Wrong tickle. Aussie Mustangs never fought Japanese - the war ended before first equipped squadrons managed to get to Borneo. 

 

They did fight later in Korea, though, so we're back to that theory  .

[Gambit21]

29 minutes ago, kendo said:

 

 swings and roundabouts  ?

 

Interesting choice to make - ability to use all the old content (and with much better visuals, because they said they were redoing that aspect too) but no PBR, or PBR in a totally new sim with only 10 aircraft, and then have to build back up again in theatres and aircraft over the next 10 years....

A sim not using PBR is just falling further and further behind. It’s like a kick in the teeth going from a 2023 standard cockpit with PBR and multiple 4K maps to basically a 2015 standard pit without. That problem/contrast is only going to grow more acute with time, and it’s already acute enough. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mysticpuma]

Why PBR is worth the effort. 

 

And on this one skip to the 57 second mark to skip the sponsor. 

 

 

[deathmisser]

1 hour ago, Art-J said:

 

Wrong tickle. Aussie Mustangs never fought Japanese - the war ended before first equipped squadrons managed to get to Borneo. 

 

They did fight later in Korea, though, so we're back to that theory  .

Lmao 

[MAJ_Boatswain]

39 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

It was interesting to hear Jason Williams discussing new tech like PBR textures and God rays for his new Sim

I guess starting from scratch and not having to import old assets can really be a bonus ?

Interesting choice of words by Han too - mentioning they were not using PBR shaders because it would take too much time to go back and re-texture all the current assets. 

That makes me believe that while they're getting a new GUI - they won't be building new models/textures.  That means it is a new map with new shaders on old textures and models, or it is an entirely new theatre that does not have overlap with the existing product.

[deathmisser]

16 minutes ago, MAJ_Boatswain said:

Interesting choice of words by Han too - mentioning they were not using PBR shaders because it would take too much time to go back and re-texture all the current assets. 

That makes me believe that while they're getting a new GUI - they won't be building new models/textures.  That means it is a new map with new shaders on old textures and models, or it is an entirely new theatre that does not have overlap with the existing product.

That's another grab for the list thank you m8. 

 

So that leaves Korea defiantly out as you would need nw tanks, buildings and assets for that. 

 

I guess the cat is fully out of the bag now which means it is Tunisia. 

Edited September 28, 2023 by deathmisser

[Gambit21]

I think a few of you probably think Jason is on vacation still.

 

 

 

?

[deathmisser]

I just realised something of course there won't be an announcement for awhile this year on the 19 November is the 10th year of this game.

So I bet they will make the announcement then as part of the celebrations. 

[dburne]

I don't know but personally I think they went too far with how long they have put it off.

Forums at least don't seem very active, certainly not like they used to be. Will the folks come back? Could be the question.

[deathmisser]

13 minutes ago, dburne said:

I don't know but personally I think they went too far with how long they have put it off.

Forums at least don't seem very active, certainly not like they used to be. Will the folks come back? Could be the question.

Yea it's better be worth it and has Hans said the map was a bit of a risk this could mean anything.

But yea the silence have gone a bit too long.  I really want too know the map size as this has to be bigger than the BON map.

 

 

But given that they was looking at Malta before hand it does seem realistic if they looked at the North African area.

Which could be one of the five theatres of the war since Jason have left now before the decision was made and finalised. 

Like I've said above Hans said this map was a risk could mean that this area was done before in previous games ?    

[Guest deleted@83466]

51 minutes ago, dburne said:

I don't know but personally I think they went too far with how long they have put it off.

Forums at least don't seem very active, certainly not like they used to be. Will the folks come back? Could be the question.

 

But what if GB is the only game I play, and without it I am lost?

[spreckair]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

I don't know but personally I think they went too far with how long they have put it off.

Forums at least don't seem very active, certainly not like they used to be. Will the folks come back? Could be the question.

Why would folks leave, and why won't they come back?  This is a flight sim/game.  It is not a political party.  I am flying careers in Battle of Moscow right now and loving it.  If and when 1C come out with something new, I will take a look and most likely buy it.  I think there are probably a lot of fans who will do the same.  If the new sim is really good, then most of us will probably buy it, as well as newbies.  I don't see where else I would go for an as good or better WWII flight sim experience.

[Skycat1969]

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

 

But what if GB is the only game I play, and without it I am lost?

This is my reality. 

[RossMarBow]

For me flight sim gaming does not exist.

 

I do not count single player as fighting against bots is just a joke.

 

So theirs only 3 games with multiplayer ww2

IL-2 GB has significant performance issues and very limited multiplayer

DCS has no performance issues, because it has no performance, and a dead ww2 multiplayer scene

WT which has ok performance, but has a smaller sim scene than IL-2 multiplayer, and is a shell of a game, with any chance of it having to be a real game entirely snuffed out by the gacha game mechanics 

 

people who actually play these games might think my performance standards are unrealistic, but they are not at all, and are entirely inline with the majority of gamers 

 

So for a decerning multiplayer dogfighting sim enthusiast like myself 
their aren't any real options 

 

contrast that opinion with the opinion that ww2 fighter sim gaming is niche and small

because I entirely disagree with it, its non existent 

so all we can do is wait

[danielprates]

10 hours ago, I./ZG1_HeTzeR said:

Im repeating myself but after reading all the hints, I stick with Norway(or Scandinavia)

 

Imagine, a whole dlc based on the blackburn skua.

[JSOflyer69]

8 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Scheduled for the end of the year. ?

 

[JSOflyer69]

9 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Scheduled for the end of the year. ?

This year or next year?

[LukeFF]

26 minutes ago, JSOflyer said:

This year or next year?

 

This year, according to the timetable published a few months ago. Nothing with that schedule has yet changed so it won't/shouldn't be much longer. 

[Mysticpuma]

I think we can rule out the Pacific. 

When Jason left, he would have been aware of the new tech and planned direction. I can't see him investing time and effort into his project if BoX was going to do the same and be at least a year ahead of his new project? 

[busdriver]

5 hours ago, dburne said:

Will the folks come back? Could be the question.

 

Nope...[my high-speed cheerleader appearance]

 

[Badger1_1]

4 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

I think we can rule out the Pacific. 

When Jason left, he would have been aware of the new tech and planned direction. I can't see him investing time and effort into his project if BoX was going to do the same and be at least a year ahead of his new project? 

could be different areas and timelines of the pacific theatre they are working on, so i wouldnt count it out just yet

[Trooper117]

9 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

 

But what if GB is the only game I play, and without it I am lost?

 

Then you are well and truly +/*>^%...

[JG27_Steini]

21 minutes ago, Badger1_1 said:

could be different areas and timelines of the pacific theatre they are working on, so i wouldnt count it out just yet

 

Making famous planes like Wildcat and Zero to the same time would not be very clever. There are so many theater left to do, no need to get in the way.

[RossMarBow]

99% sure its Korea

Good mix of propeller and jet planes.

 

Good place to start a new flight sim.

First release could be sabre vs mig 15

 

then slowly release more korea era planes

 

Which then can be used for a ww2 1945 release
or a late vietnam release if you want to go that way

 

Before you say what about DCS?
DCS really doesn't do korea very well, most of the relevant modules are super out dated  
theirs a DCS korea server but its events only

most people play DCS for modern stuff, with a minority enjoying the cold war server

 

 

Makes a lot more sense than what happened with GB which was 
ww1 kites first
which has really knee capped the games potential 

[pasao]

Hi all

All my confidence on the TEAM, you have demonstrated for many years bringing us the best classic planes simulator

I am totally sure that whatever you do, it will be a quality and top best product

I count with you and you can count with me

[deathmisser]

4 hours ago, RossMarBow said:

99% sure its Korea

Good mix of propeller and jet planes.

 

Good place to start a new flight sim.

First release could be sabre vs mig 15

 

then slowly release more korea era planes

 

Which then can be used for a ww2 1945 release
or a late vietnam release if you want to go that way

 

Before you say what about DCS?
DCS really doesn't do korea very well, most of the relevant modules are super out dated  
theirs a DCS korea server but its events only

most people play DCS for modern stuff, with a minority enjoying the cold war server

 

 

Makes a lot more sense than what happened with GB which was 
ww1 kites first
which has really knee capped the games potential 

Do I need to post my list again ? 

 

 

I highly doubt it's Korea as not only this is a new area but you have to make new mechanics, assets, tanks ect 

There is just too much work here too do just for one module then leaving that area for years.

Unlike other modules where you can pretty much use two modules with in each other, Like say Battle of Bodenplatte and the Normandy one can be pretty much be one huge module.  Same with the eastern front ones most of the German assets can be used everywhere.

 

What does Korea bring to the table for the existing modules ? 

Maybe some late war props and that is pretty much it. 

 

If they Pick Tunisia then all they need to do is to reskin most off the German and British assets.

And then most of the deserts skins can now have a home and a brand new air force they can play with. 

 

But yea most of the modules are all about flexibility which is why properly we haven't gone near the pacific yet.  

 

Edited September 29, 2023 by deathmisser

[CountZero]

38 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

Do I need to post my list again ? 

 

 

I highly doubt it's Korea as not only this is a new area but you have to make new mechanics, assets, tanks ect 

There is just too much work here too do just for one module then leaving that area for years.

Unlike other modules where you can pretty much use two modules with in each other, Like say Battle of Bodenplatte and the Normandy one can be pretty much be one huge module.  Same with the eastern front ones most of the German assets can be used everywhere.

 

What does Korea bring to the table for the existing modules ? 

Maybe some late war props and that is pretty much it. 

 

If they Pick Tunisia then all they need to do is to reskin most off the German and British assets.

And then most of the deserts skins can now have a home and a brand new air force they can play with. 

 

But yea most of the modules are all about flexibility which is why properly we haven't gone near the pacific yet.  

 

New game is separate from this one, it dosent need to bring anything to this game, its its own thing, atleast this is how i understand their criptic comunity engaigmant in this last year or so. 

 

But even if by some miracle they plan next project to be compatible with all what we have here, with Korea you get IL-10, TU-2S, B-26, P-51D, La-9, Yak-9P, T-6 and so on... can be used in late soviet vs axis and so on... as supstitutes for La-7 Yak-9U/3

 

Edited September 29, 2023 by CountZero