The status of the yet-to-be-announced title

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, drewm3i-VR said:

Yawn. Will check back in 6 months.

 

2 hours ago, drewm3i-VR said:

It's gotta be Korea, which isn't super interesting however if the changes/improvements made apply to the other titles as well, than that is something worth getting excited over. For me, I would love to see the Pacific, Italy, or something truly unique and beautiful. Western and Eastern Fronts have been done ad nauseum and what we have here (if improved) would satisfy our interest in these theaters for years to come IMO.

 

That was a short six months. ?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

8 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

I'd say it's going to be something with Russian aircraft in it... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Manchuria.   The perfect 1st step into the pacific/asia theater. Russian v Japanese plane set.   Russia planes possible; Il-4, Pe-2, Tu-2 bombers, La-7, Yak-9, P-63C (US) fighters, Il-2, Il-10 attack planes, C-47 (US ), Li-2 (copy of C-47) transport planes, Po-2 liaison planes, and even PBY's.

 

Japanese would include multiple KI designs. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[Mysticpuma]

Let's not forget, Fulcrum now own IL2: Cliffs of Dover. So, if the agreement with 1C is now ended (whereby 1C would leave TFS theatres alone)....does that open up North Africa?

 

(and as LukFF mentioned, the correct answer has been guessed a few times....and that is mentioned a few times in this thread ?)

Edited September 26, 2023 by Mysticpuma

[dburne]

14 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

Let's not forget, Fulcrum now own IL2: Cliffs of Dover. So, if the agreement with 1C is now ended (whereby 1C would leave TFS theatres alone)....does that open up North Africa?

 

(and as LukFF mentioned, the correct answer has been guessed a few times....and that is mentioned a few times in this thread ?)

 

I hope not.

[deathmisser]

1 hour ago, Mysticpuma said:

and as LukFF mentioned, the correct answer has been guessed a few times....and that is mentioned a few times in this thread

I guessed Korea and Burma so at least I right in some form.  ? 

[dburne]

I am sure they won't but it would be nice (at least for me) if whatever new they are working on might include a little more depth in the cockpit, like some switches/dials that could be manipulated and also cold starts and taxi to runway that worked without incident so one could choose to play whichever style suits them.

As a single player at least this I would really love.

[Lusekofte]

My constant feeling since the very beginning. It is almost there, imagine what this can be. 

I hope they get there

[Sgt_Joch]

personally, I would love for the next project to be KOREA...?

 

 

[BlitzPig_Bill_Kelso]

Burma would be my guess, or maybe Finnish continuation wars! Crap planes!!!

[FTC_Oakwoodson]

20 hours ago, 56RAF_Talisman said:

This article says over 55 nations pitched in against North Korea, so folks from many parts of the world could be interested.  In addition, there are very large populations in countries that supported North Korea.  I think Korea as the next theatre for IL-2 could bring in a lot of new potential customers and could be a good business move.  Prop ac, early jets, carrier ops, helicopters, tanks, etc, all have lots of scope.  Helicopters could draw a whole new group of flight sim enthusiasts and add many new types of missions for folks to explore.  

Over 55 nations pitched in against North Korea in the Korean War (qz.com)

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

Very much agree with this.

 

Happy landings,

 

Talisman

Helicopter's involvment in the Korean War completely skipped my mind. If they would be flyable, I'd be more then happy to cash out to fly S55 to do SAR, Evacuations and a variety of other tasks. Wouldn't it be lovely if a flyable S55 could be entrusted with hoisting out downed, swiming pilots from the Yellow Sea or other bodies of water near the Korean peninsula? 

[=LD=dhyran]

On 9/23/2023 at 11:58 PM, Han said:

Lets hope we're not.

At the moment every is going according to the plan.

 

Only fear we have - the new GUI development. While Scale Form API is dead for 6 years allready - its become impossible to find developers for it. So evolution of current GUI have stuck. "Marshall sad story" - one of the cosequences of that.

Last year we have took decision which should be taken several years ago - to develop new IL-2 GUI using another API from the scratch to allow IL-2 gamedesign to evolve.

 

Why there is a fear? Because IL-2 GUI evolved during 5 years. New project, offcourse, have lesser deadlines and should be done way faster. And don't forget, that GUI is not just a visalizator, bur also it makes game logic - Career game mode have a half of itsalgorythms inside the GUI. And, from another side, this time we want to develop brand-new GUI look (everyone tired of existing "mobile-like" design), and some new functionality. So there is a risk while this development is very ambitious.

 

Graphics technologies are mostly done and content development is in progress. New airplane systems and damage model are near to be done but we still have some room in timeline for it (while new airplanes 3Ds are in development). Map - is in development for 10 months allready and its going well. Map development have some risks too while its most volumed content in the game and new map is way larger and variative than any other we done before - but we have allready developed new tools for the map team which should help them to met the milestones in time.

 

So we remember of ClOD destiny. ClOD started totaly everything from the scratch - there were too many risks. So we doing from the scratch just several, most critical modules (GUI, Shading, Radio, new AI feature and couple other things). Many other modules are evolving using what we have before.

 

So, we have a strong basis to hope, that everything will be done in time and this time will be not too long.

 

Sounds great Han,

 

Do we get a new netcode? It would be damn cool to fly in super massive multiplayer environements, like the S3 back in warbirds with over 300 Players on one server

The B17 raids on the sachs factorys, or road to berlin were my favourite scenarios....

 

I am looking forward, tons of people got a great sim rig, VR, Virpils stuff etc etc. 

 

just feed us to believe in something with props and bullets!

 

Snappy Salute

dhyran

[Varibraun]

13 hours ago, Ghost666 said:

No Nuclear bomb in Korea, late war Japan yes.

Nuke + B-29 = Dr. Love

 

But see, that's the whole point of Luke's brilliant hint* - MacArthur was relieved, so no nukes (as Luke said), but plenty of B-29s that could have carried them with Mig-15s (Chinese!/Soviet/Korean - take your pick) to shoot at them, while being chased by F-86s. So, Luke's not wanting to be nuked comment CLEARLY all adds up to KOREA! Duh...

*Kidding/humor gang...and certainly NOT trying to get Luke nuked (hey, that rhymes ), but who doesn't love a good conspiracy theory?

 

Theory now also confirmed by Ghost666: Do you see the new Korea map in the background - I certainly do!:

[DBFlyguy]

I'm still not convinced its Korea... BUT if it is, I think it would definitely bring new life into the series!  Show me Panthers, Corsairs and Skyraiders and you'll have my undivided attention and the chance of clubbing migs and yaks would be icing on the cake ?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by DBFlyguy

[MiGCap]

A (later) well-known F9F Panther pilot of the Korean war:

 

 

[ITAF_Rani]

19 hours ago, LukeFF said:

And yes, a few people have guessed correctly

So if I understand well..this means another DLC and not an entire new SIM...

Edited September 26, 2023 by ITAF_Rani

[Vishnu]

Sadly, if it’s Korea, I’ll be really disappointed.  I wish it was the Med or North Africa.  But, as has been mentioned, neither are doable.   Waiting is the only option.  

[Lusekofte]

24 minutes ago, Vishnu said:

Sadly, if it’s Korea, I’ll be really disappointed.  I wish it was the Med or North Africa.  But, as has been mentioned, neither are doable.   Waiting is the only option.  

I am not sure how I feel about Korea, I might buy it, but I fly DCS MIG 15 a bit, and I do not think GB is going to beat it

[FTC_Oakwoodson]

20 minutes ago, ITAF_Rani said:

So if I understand well..this means another DLC and not an entire new SIM...

That's unlikely given that Han did specifically say that they're making certain elements from scratch for the new 'project'. It is most definetly a new game, unless they've just spontaneously decided to create new damage and flight models just for that one DLC. 

[CountZero]

14 minutes ago, FTC_Oakwoodson said:

That's unlikely given that Han did specifically say that they're making certain elements from scratch for the new 'project'. It is most definetly a new game, unless they've just spontaneously decided to create new damage and flight models just for that one DLC. 

And still its not clear to so many ppl, just shows what mess they created with their new/old way of comunicating with their base. I remenber things were like this before first change of leadership during Kuban DLC.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, FTC_Oakwoodson said:

That's unlikely given that Han did specifically say that they're making certain elements from scratch for the new 'project'. It is most definetly a new game, unless they've just spontaneously decided to create new damage and flight models just for that one DLC. 

On the other hand, Han also said the following:

 

Quote

And GB have 100+ playable objets, 100+ AI objects, dosens of buildings, bombs, rockets, cliffs and ect. [...] Yes, redevelop them to PBR not requires to repeat these 11 years while it is not 100% redo. But its still huge ammount of resources required to do this in GB.

 

Which is a pretty direct statement that they're re-using the current playable and non-playable objects. I don't know if it'll be marketed as a new game, but this statement does point to the new "project" being some sort of a continuation rather than something completely new.

Edited September 26, 2023 by AEthelraedUnraed

[deathmisser]

26 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Which is a pretty direct statement that they're re-using the current playable and non-playable objects. I don't know if it'll be marketed as a new game, but this statement does point to the new "project" being some sort of a continuation rather than something completely new.

If this means that the next sim will have the previous modules compatible, I'm really not that too bothered ether way.  

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

I am not sure how I feel about Korea, I might buy it, but I fly DCS MIG 15 a bit, and I do not think GB is going to beat it

No sim is ever going to have the individual aircraft quality of DCS, (especially current/upcoming standard) certainly not GB. You have to enjoy GB from a ‘big picture’ standpoint.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Gambit21

[CountZero]

well it wont be in GB it will be in new game, who knows what aproach its gona have it may be airplanes and systes more like DCS but with proper map and enviroment to fight over, i belive new game aint gona be caled Great Battles, thats Jasons adition and hes gone from here.

 

 

1 hour ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

On the other hand, Han also said the following:

 

 

Which is a pretty direct statement that they're re-using the current playable and non-playable objects. I don't know if it'll be marketed as a new game, but this statement does point to the new "project" being some sort of a continuation rather than something completely new.

nope, if you read question and his replay to it, its not about objects from GB being added to new game, its about problems with making PBR work in GB, they wont do change as it would take to mutch work...

"I hope you are considering PBR textures to make the environments much more realistic. 

My only visual frustration with BoX was the muted, flat, lifeless colours and colour cast in the sky and landscape. 

PBR texturing requires to redevelop all existing objects textures. It is not possible to have PBR and non-PBR objects in one render. And GB have 100+ playable objets, 100+ AI objects, dosens of buildings, bombs, rockets, cliffs and ect. It have took 11 years to develop all this content. Yes, redevelop them to PBR not requires to repeat these 11 years while it is not 100% redo. But its still huge ammount of resources required to do this in GB."

Edited September 26, 2023 by CountZero

[Mainstay]

Personally I would hate it if it turns out to be Korea. I will not buy and support because it’s simply not my cup of tea.

 

I will play the existing WW2 stuff we have so far. But other than that I’m out ?

[Trooper117]

Like stuff in the game?... buy it.

Don't like stuff in the game?... don't buy it.

It's a simple solution, you don't have to buy every single part of the series, and it certainly doesn't mean you have to walk away from the game.

[deathmisser]

2 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Like stuff in the game?... buy it.

Don't like stuff in the game?... don't buy it.

It's a simple solution, you don't have to buy every single part of the series, and it certainly doesn't mean you have to walk away from the game.

Not to start a flame war but why do you always have to respond to comments like this and say stuff we already know ? 

If he voices a thing he doesn't like then what is wrong with that ?  

[AEthelraedUnraed]

22 minutes ago, CountZero said:

nope, if you read question and his replay to it, its not about objects from GB being added to new game, its about problems with making PBR work in GB, they wont do change as it would take to mutch work...

Nope, the question was about whether PBR is being considered for the new project. To which Han replies that it isn't, since they'd have to modify all existing assets as well.

[MiGCap]

57 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

You have to enjoy GB from a ‘big picture’ standpoint.

 

And on this field GB is miles ahead of DCS, that's why I like it.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Mainstay said:

Personally I would hate it if it turns out to be Korea. I will not buy and support because it’s simply not my cup of tea.

 

I will play the existing WW2 stuff we have so far. But other than that I’m out ?

 

Some players would like a Korea set-up very much (like me), others not.

You can't please everyone.

 

I didn't liked the Battle of Moscow map for years, bought it only for the aircraft. And guess what: Flying MP on this map for a few times I discovered that it is fun!

So I hope that - if it actually is Korea - some of those who dislike it now would give it a try anyhow.

 

And perhaps it is something completely different, who knows ...

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by MiGCap

[deathmisser]

14 minutes ago, MiGCap said:

So I hope that - if it actually is Korea - some of those who dislike it now would give it a try anyhow.

I too will be sad if it is Korea I rather have Burma though as it against the IJAAF a brand new air force and set of unique planes.

(And of course family reasons too as it's the area where my great grandad fought in)  

Edited September 26, 2023 by deathmisser

[Tonester]

On 9/24/2023 at 6:24 PM, CountZero said:

 

 

So we remember of ClOD destiny. ClOD started totaly everything from the scratch - there were too many risks. So we doing from the scratch just several, most critical modules (GUI, Shading, Radio, new AI feature and couple other things). Many other modules are evolving using what we have before.

 

I dont think hes talking about clod start but how all this last year or so looks like mistake TF made back when they had best MP enviroment and then decided to play safe by not informing comunity about plans and fixing MP bugs, so ppl then went here and never come back to Clod TF 5 when it come out, they maybe check it out but didnt stay as they build their own enviroment and comunity in onother game, and no mather how good TF 5 or 6 will be they wont come back after years of nothing.

 

You can see this starting to happend here, thats the point of his coment, TF decisions 2016 and onwards, not terible CloD start 2011. You stay 1-2 years playing safe not informing ppl about plan especialy when they think there is no point playing this game when they will make new game insted making real content here, then its pointless to comit to GB 1.0 any more when all new stuff will be in this GB 2.0 that is separate, ppl go play other things form conections there, dont come back. 

 

I may be miss it but will new project have any improvments to how SP works, as controling flights is mess here, no real formations, is time acclarations be working proparly or well gona wait for PC equipment to catch up so we get full 8x 16x and so on.. map gona be big... sitting 1h doing nothing is not combat players thing.. thats for MSF2024 guys... is mission builder geting improved for ease of use and so on... coms, net stuff, will it be 30 vs 30 or 100 vs 100... you see if next level is just another its preatyer, or its 96% insted 93% accurate FM or DM but we get same poor game expiriance in AI or other compartments then point of making new game insted more DLCs for this one is hard to justifie from players view

Yep spot on mate

[MiGCap]

Just compare it with RoF against FC: The RoF aircraft were adapted to FC (and I hope very much that this will become true also for the early ones still missing like the Fokker E.III and the Roland C.II) so that they can be used in the new game. But nevertheless RoF and FC are completely different games, even if the whole GB engine was based on RoF.

 

So perhaps this is the same way here.

[CzechTexan]

This is a WWII sim for prop-plane enthusiasts, is it not?  Why all the hype about Korea and jets? 

BTW, chronologically, the French-Indochina War started before the Korean War so maybe that should be next!  (Just Kidding!  ? but I would like having the P-63 and F8F)!

I see Burma getting thrown out there a lot and I would not be against that (the other Theater of War that interests me) but I'd be in favor of anything WWII.

[Gambit21]

2 minutes ago, CzechTexan said:

This is a WWII sim for prop-plane enthusiasts, is it not?  

Don’t tell the Me-262 or Arado…or the next one…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

…or 2, or 3.

Or 4.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Four?

 

OK, Ummm...

 

Mig 15

F 80

F 86

Meteor.

 

 

Check, four it is.

[MiGCap]

12 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Four?

 

OK, Ummm...

 

Mig 15

F 80

F 86

Meteor.

 

 

Check, four it is.

 

F-84G …

[deathmisser]

42 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Meteor

What what hmmmmmmm now you got me.  This could also be used in the BON module too. 

[BlitzPig_EL]

The Meteors used in Korea were later models however.

 

Forgot about the 84.

[Gambit21]

Neat looking plane.

[R33GZ]

Korea I think would be great, BUT, it would have to have carriers to be a reasonable representation in my opinion. To not have the USN corsairs, skyraiders and panthers would be a farce. I was of the understanding that carriers and other large vessels were absolutely not possible?

[Guest deleted@83466]

I propose that Gambit21 wage a hunger strike until the next module is announced.