The status of the yet-to-be-announced title

[Barnacles]

1 hour ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Love WW2 props .....sorry

Alot of the planes used in Korea were Ww2 props. 

[MajorMagee]

On 11/10/2023 at 11:35 AM, ryankm said:

I've been looking forward to some P63 variants.  The P39 in game is outdated...  I have to fly Yak because the abysmal climb rate P47 is to heavy and Mustangs can't turn.  The P63 was fundamental in US aircraft design for many reasons...  P59 first turbojet fighter, P63 was first swept wing aircraft and also tested a V tail.  P63 was a fundamental aircraft for US technology designs and ambitions spawning company's such as Lockheed Skunkworks.

 

I am in between PC's right now anyway, and with the economy the way it is; it's gonna be awhile before I get another one.  So keep up the great work!

[Gambit21]

7 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said:

What if ....will not be Korea.?

Hope you ll find always fun for every choice Devs will do.. 

 

 I’ll find fun for PTO/CBI only at this point. Done with anything else with regard to WWII. 

…and the MiGbis a bit.

[Jaegermeister]

On 11/10/2023 at 11:56 AM, ryankm said:

 

It's just the P51 isn't even American.  It is British. 

Not true even if the British bought it first. It was designed and built in the US by US designers and the British and Americans fitted it with a Merlin at the same time, each in their own countries. Once it had an American built Merlin, the USAAF ordered it too.

[Lusekofte]

P 51 looks and smell US design. It was designed as an improved fighter versus P 40 and P 39. And it was , just not at altitude. 
Altitude performance came with a British bloke with access to a Merlin. I think he was test pilot for Royce Rolls. Forgot his name. And that is a shame because he saved a lot of life’s in 8 af. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Lusekofte

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

On 11/10/2023 at 11:56 AM, ryankm said:

 

 

It's just the P51 isn't even American.  It is British.  They hat American stuff so they needed to make a whole new company and plane.  At the end of the day ask your self what you want to waste your money on.  The P51 culminated into the XB 70 and the P63 the F35...  The XB 70 was an abysmal failure.  I don't want to waste my time with it.  It isn't actually evan American.

So you're saying the "North American P-51"  is not American?    Dude, it's even in the name...  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang

 

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[CountZero]

19 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

So you're saying the "North American P-51"  is not American?    Dude, it's even in the name...  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang

 

 

Thats exactly what you would do if you had to hid it that its not American, fact that it has American in name is prof that it isent American ?

 

[EAF19_Marsh]

2 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

So you're saying the "North American P-51"  is not American?    Dude, it's even in the name...  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang

 

 

 

Actually, there is substantial evidence that the original design was Welsh.

[ACG_Bussard]

Here´s the clarification regarding the british/US origin of the P-51 Mustang. This video come´s from Jane´s (WW2 Fighters game). Can a product, which used the brand of the Jane´s information group be wrong?

 

 

[danielprates]

2 hours ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

So you're saying the "North American P-51"  is not American?    Dude, it's even in the name...  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-51_Mustang

 

 

 

Seeing as Carlos Gardel was french, Carmen Miranda was portuguese and you-know-who wasn't even german.... history can surprise us at times.

[tattywelshie]

1 hour ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

 

Actually, there is substantial evidence that the original design was Welsh.

We invented all the best things ?

[ST_Catchov]

5 hours ago, tattywelshie said:

6 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

 

Actually, there is substantial evidence that the original design was Welsh.

We invented all the best things ?

 

C'mon .... the Welsh DID NOT design the Mustang! That is laughable and there is no evidence.

 

However, they did invent the first practical flying machine way before the Wrights as evidenced by this image from the archives of the Welsh Aeronautical Society Choir and Mining Association.

 

[Rjel]

1 hour ago, tattywelshie said:

We invented all the best things ?

I love Welsh's Grape Jelly. Wait, wait, wait. That's not spelled right. It's Welsh's Grape Jellie.

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, Rjel said:

I love Welsh's Grape Jelly. Wait, wait, wait. That's not spelled right. It's Welsh's Grape Jellie.

It’s made in Camaroon!!

[Monksilver]

6 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Actually, there is substantial evidence that the original design was Welsh.

Probably not but I did see that the principal design engineer was Kenneth Bowen, Bowen is of course very much a Welsh name, coming from a contraction of the patronymic Ab Owen.

[R33GZ]

On 11/11/2023 at 5:56 AM, ryankm said:

What alt?  I thought early 109's could turn...  Everything before and including BF 109 g2

 

It's just the P51 isn't even American.  It is British.  They hat American stuff so they needed to make a whole new company and plane.  At the end of the day ask your self what you want to waste your money on.  The P51 culminated into the XB 70 and the P63 the F35...  The XB 70 was an abysmal failure.  I don't want to waste my time with it.  It isn't actually evan American.

The P-51 was built and designed by North American Aviation in America.  this would make it an American designed and American built aircraft. To most logical people, this would make it an american aircraft. The contract they were awarded was from the British Purchasing Commission, working on behalf of the RAF. This would make  Britain the client, not the designer, nor the manufacturer. If I purchase a Chevrolet in New Zealand, it doesn't change the fact that it is an American designed and built car that makes a mockery of the price of fuel in my corner of the planet... $3.20 per litre ?

Edited November 14, 2023 by R33GZ

[S10JlAbraxis]

The P51 has more German connections than British or, LOL, Welsh.  Following is quoted from Wikipedia:

 

"Edgar O. "Ed" Schmued (Schmüd) (1899–1985) was an Austrian/German-American aircraft designer, famed for his design of the iconic North American P-51 Mustang and, later, the F-86 Sabre while at North American Aviation. He later worked on other aircraft designs as an aviation consultant."

 

 

[Jaegermeister]

2 hours ago, Bussard* said:

Here´s the clarification regarding the british/US origin of the P-51 Mustang. This video come´s from Jane´s (WW2 Fighters game). Can a product, which used the brand of the Jane´s information group be wrong?

 

 

Well, it's not wrong, but it's not clear and they left out a few things. There was a friendly rivalry going on the whole time the Mustang I / Apache was in development to see who could get a merlin engined P-51 in the air first. The British Rolls Royce or the American Packard Merlin version. Without lookin it up, I recall the British was first in the air by a few days. 

[LukeFF]

And with that, I think this topic has fulfilled its purpose. ?