The status of the yet-to-be-announced title

[Han]

1 hour ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

That was you flaying Sunday? It crossed my mind that this player has the same name as Han The developer - might be you , but then I thought -no can't be true ?. 

Aaaahh... That was you who spayed out my brains around the canopy... I remember it was a pilot from 1PL )))))))))

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

43 minutes ago, Han said:

Aaaahh... That was you who spayed out my brains around the canopy... I remember it was a pilot from 1PL )))))))))

For sure ?that was good fan? 

[Badger1_1]

i still dont understand why we cant atleast be told the period the new sim will be set in, if you are already working on the planeset and map...

[Art-J]

5 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

At a base level, if your forum seems full of potential customers rather unhappy - which I would argue it does - the team are not doing well in the marketing department. You do not need 'expert level' to appreciate this. I am not a chef, but if a restaurant starts serving food that tastes like crap then I'm not going back.

 

Exaggerating and feeling entitled much?

 

This forum is more of an echo chamber with loud minority projecting their issues, while the rest either just plays the damn game, or naturally burns out and drops out over time (and that would happen either way, no matter how 1C communicates with customers) That's not an anti-GB note from me, mind you, as exactly the same applies to other boards, DCS, MSFS, you name it.

 

As a more general observation - Is "marketing silence" approach here worse than the other party's approach of interacting and advertizing a product that may or may not exist in the future? You seem to think so, but I don't agree. As much as I'm a fan(atic) of PTO and thus observe that competitor with much greater interest compared to whatever happens here, I consider their approach even more flawed than 1C's. By their admission, they only have money for 1 year of ops and creation of closed tech demo, hoping to secure funds later if everything goes right. Well, that's a big IF from my point of view and their project might still not materialize at all. I wish them the very best, but building a hype now when all they've got is pretty much smoke and mirrors doesn't sound like a great marketing solution either. At least the guys here allegedly have a solid headstart with foundation already being laid.

 

One more thing, the "restaurant" here serves exactly the same, albeit repetitive food as it's always been, even with small improvements still coming. You're just arguing about the future menu, which we've been told will be published next Spring, but we haven't seen any snippet of it yet. So what? We couldn't try the new offer now anyway. If it turns out to be good, people will come and stay, if it doesn't, they won't.

[Zooropa_Fly]

Welcome to the future restaurant menu..

 

(not sure where the base and cheese come from mind you.)

 

Fingers crossed the devs come up with something more palatable.

[Gambit21]

17 hours ago, Han said:

For a while I've spent my Sunday evening for some MP combat. This week WoL gave me my lovely MiG-3, so I was happy with our game as player. There were 65+ players on the server and, at least for me, game was smooth as silk. Hope that you too have such experience.

 

I've wanted to say...the MiG 3 is a lovely plane.

If you guys ever decide to introduce higher fidelity models on a "collector" basis...this is where I'd ask you to start. Even though Russian aircraft are not my favorite across the board, there are a few that I do quite love...and the MiG 3 is one of them. It deserves some extra love at some point.

[tattywelshie]

34 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

I've wanted to say...the MiG 3 is a lovely plane.

If you guys ever decide to introduce higher fidelity models on a "collector" basis...this is where I'd ask you to start. Even though Russian aircraft are not my favorite across the board, there are a few that I do quite love...and the MiG 3 is one of them. It deserves some extra love at some point.

I love it as well, and I agree, I think a lot of the original, older models could do with a bit of a refresh, pretty easy win as well for the devs ?

[R33GZ]

10 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Most of the operations were from land

Come on, carrier operations played a big role in Korea. Certainly, the USAF were big players, but to do this theatre without  carriers would be a sham. I could MAYBE (big maybe) accept carriers being added down the track, but unless I've misread the exceptionaly vague and ambiguous statements put out by the higher ups, then carriers have been categorically ruled out. 

[Trooper117]

1 hour ago, R33GZ said:

carriers have been categorically ruled out

 

It's still Korea... be sure.

[Lusekofte]

Well a Korea without carriers, nah I am back flying DCS

[Gambit21]

5 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Well a Korea without carriers, nah I am back flying DCS

 

I don't need a carrier to fly a MiG 15! Or the F-84, or F-86, or the TF-51, or the even the Corsair as plenty operated from land bases.

 

I get the whole carrier thing, (it's great fun) but this can be a module/DLC for later. Plenty to do without carriers. I wouldn't expect the Devs to come up with carriers given the scope of everything else right now. Competitors have set a vary high bar with carriers already, they can't rush development of that and invite comparison that is unfavorable, so this is the last thing you'll ever see me complain about.

 

 

[dburne]

While I am sure most are right in that it will not be any carriers, I am not sure I have ever seen a statement from 1CGS regarding carriers during this time since last release.

[Enceladus828]

On 10/8/2023 at 12:31 PM, Han said:

We still have no final sure how many them will be player controlled and how many of them will be ready till release date.

 

…

 

And this one of the reasons why we postponing the announce. There is no pisitive for anyone in announce without ability to tell to community the general details of the new product and show some visual stuff from the new game engine.

 

I know this explanation will not statisfy you guys, but at least we try to be fair with our community and not give any promises unsupported by our own sureness.

All good, Han. One question I have that won’t give away the exact plane set and location is, will there be German planes added in the next installment?

[Blitzen]

I'd be more than pleased if included in the next version whatever it is to have the B-25 and the B-26 twins flyable!

[Gambit21]

52 minutes ago, Enceladus828 said:

All good, Han. One question I have that won’t give away the exact plane set and location is, will there be German planes added in the next installment?

? 

Nice try

 

 

[AndyJWest]

How about we play hangman? I'll start with the letter 'k'.... ?

[Guest deleted@83466]

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[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

While I am sure most are right in that it will not be any carriers, I am not sure I have ever seen a statement from 1CGS regarding carriers during this time since last release.

They have, somewhat indirectly IIRC.

[Drano]

No P-38 in Korea. Italy, however! 

[EAF19_Marsh]

10 hours ago, R33GZ said:

Come on, carrier operations played a big role in Korea. Certainly, the USAF were big players, but to do this theatre without  carriers would be a sham. I could MAYBE (big maybe) accept carriers being added down the track, but unless I've misread the exceptionaly vague and ambiguous statements put out by the higher ups, then carriers have been categorically ruled out. 

They played a role, not sure a ‘big’ role statistically.

 

But as Gambit said they can be added if the revenue arrives, which is how I would expect the development. I would certainly buy that as a DLC. It does not preclude the naval aircraft as an initial release for shore operations.

 

If the ‘not sure how / when we could add carriers’ issue is the uncertainty at which Han hinted then I suggest they acknowledge that as part of an official statement that Korea is the next title, alongside the details of the module engine etc. I - and I expect most people - would think no worse of them if they admit that CV ops are a huge sink of energy and that hope to be included if the release reaches a certain level of sales.

 

So c’mon, Han, just say it ?

6 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

How about we play hangman? I'll start with the letter 'k'.... ?

Khosin Reservoir?

[deathmisser]

On 10/9/2023 at 8:25 AM, EAF19_Marsh said:

That rather leaves Korea. Most of the operations were from land, Seoul was not huge, it has a mixed generation of aircraft from various nations / customer interest areas, A2A and A2G. And (say it quietly) 'acceptable' for a Russian development company.

Conveniently leave out one area of WW2 that will bring in a huge amount of players.

 

Burma ! 

Edited October 10, 2023 by deathmisser

[76IAP-Black]

We have 16 pages of no information 

[BladeMeister]

1 hour ago, 76IAP-Black said:

We have 16 pages of no information 

 

 

Yes, but we have 16 pages of it!!!

 

S!Blade<><

[EAF19_Marsh]

3 hours ago, deathmisser said:

Conveniently leave out one area of WW2 that will bring in a huge amount of players.

 

Burma ! 

There’s a nip in the air…

21 hours ago, Art-J said:

Exaggerating and feeling entitled much?

No, dude, are you?

 

I am not entitled to nothing. But read this thread and tell me that people are not a little frustrated. Check Stormbirds blog for the discussion.

 

And if you serve crap food your clientele will vanish. You can defend whatever, but no money = no product. They want money, advertise the product. 

[ITAF_Rani]

We know the first information about this top secret new DLC/ Sim Engine will be in Spring 24...

But maybe the Devs could provide same disclosure in December as Christmas present...

[DBS]

Personally can't see it being Korea. Seems illogical to me when there's plenty of WW2 scenarios left to do. Plus they've said no carriers which would betray the actual history of the campaign.

 

I'm pretty convinced it will be Sicily and/or Italy. 

[JG27_Steini]

3 hours ago, 76IAP-Black said:

We have 16 pages of no information 

 

Even no information is an information. Those threads keeping me interessed, until they will announce Korea and it will be a single project. Then i am off ?

[EAF19_Marsh]

“We have a possible product under development but after 12 month we are not sure what quite it will be. But one thing we know is that we will not inform our customer / revenue base”.

 

Said very few successful companies in the history of mankind. And I feel that I am being generous.

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

I don’t think it’s Korea either, but some have claimed the ability to wade through nonsense threads like this, and they are convinced it is.  I would be surprised if it was something like “Khalkin Gol”, because I just don’t see that as having wide appeal.  I would not be surprised if it was something like Spanish Civ War.

 

The last time I played IL-2 was shortly after the release of the Spit 14.  I uninstalled the game prior to the release of Normandy, and never saw most of the content.  I’ve continued to lurk here, because at least at one time, IL-2 was my very favorite game, but the more time goes by, the more I question why I bother.  Just habit I guess. I got bored with IL-2 before, started playing other games that have sucked me in just as much as IL-2 once did, and nothing seems to be happening here to rekindle my interest.  Out of all the guesses about what the next big thing is, I’m not sure if any of them would suit my current interests in combat flight sims.  Maybe they will at some point.  I try to keep an open mind, but I think they would really have to knock it out of the ballpark.

[76IAP-Black]

“We have a possible product under development but after 12 month we are not sure what quite it will be. But one thing we know is that we will not inform our customer / revenue base”.

possible?
after 12 month not sure?

If I count 1 and 1 together, they have spend all their income on a half tone of pot and smoked the hell out of it ... 



 

Edited October 10, 2023 by 76IAP-Black

[=LD=dhyran]

53 minutes ago, DBS said:

Personally can't see it being Korea. Seems illogical to me when there's plenty of WW2 scenarios left to do. Plus they've said no carriers which would betray the actual history of the campaign.

 

I'm pretty convinced it will be Sicily and/or Italy. 

 

Thats also my Fav!

 

 

[EAF19_Marsh]

2 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

I don’t think it’s Korea either, but some have claimed the ability to wade through nonsense threads like this, and they are convinced it is.  I would be surprised if it was something like “Khalkin Gol”, because I just don’t see that as having wide appeal.  I would not be surprised if it was something like Spanish Civ War.

Then you will number among the unsurprised minority. I would bet a lot of money that it is not because…that would be  surprisingly stupid.

3 minutes ago, 76IAP-Black said:

“We have a possible product under development but after 12 month we are not sure what quite it will be. But one thing we know is that we will not inform our customer / revenue base”.

possible?
after 12 month not sure?

If I count 1 and 1 together, they have spend all their income on a half tone of pot and smoked the hell out of it ... 



 

You doubt me, check their latest ‘press release’ and tell me what it said.

 

Hey, LukeFF, are we nearly there yet?

[deathmisser]

6 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

There’s a nip in the air…

And their is toffee in my hair.

 

I couldn't help it since it's close to Halloween. 

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Hey, LukeFF, are we nearly there yet?

 

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Then you will number among the unsurprised minority. I would bet a lot of money that it is not because…that would be  surprisingly stupid.

 

Drop me an email later - in the meantime don’t bet anyone! 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Gambit21

[CountZero]

8 hours ago, DBS said:

Personally can't see it being Korea. Seems illogical to me when there's plenty of WW2 scenarios left to do. Plus they've said no carriers which would betray the actual history of the campaign.

 

I'm pretty convinced it will be Sicily and/or Italy. 

Korea is not primerly known for carrier ops, B-17s are more needed in BoN then carriers in Korea, and we got BoN without B-17s.

 

Exept for one they said its for sure not what they are doing next, it was Italy, and Sicily is part of Italy. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

So like you see here, next thing is not Malta, Italy, Africa, Balaton... its not GB, as they also say DT will be made for next project not GB, so next game will have airplanes with droptanks, so no early war...also here they say why not Italy map...

Edited October 10, 2023 by CountZero

[Trooper117]

I have a crystal ball, as it glows and the mists swirl, slowly but surely an image forms... wait!...

I see it now, letters are forming, it's telling me, it's telling me to...'' is Russia, bugger offski'' 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Trooper117

[Gambit21]

26 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Korea is not primerly known for carrier ops, B-17s are more needed in BoN then carriers in Korea, and we got BoN without B-17s.

 

Exept for one they said its for sure not what they are doing next, it was Italy, and Sicily is part of Italy. 

 

  Hide contents

 

 

So like you see here, next thing is not Malta, Italy, Africa, Balaton... its not GB, as they also say DT will be made for next project not GB, so next game will have airplanes with droptanks, so no early war...also here they say why not Italy map...

 

 

Hey, a person capable of referencing publicly available information and assimilating it into his knowledge base...very nice.

 

 

No the only one mind you, but it's not a given in this thread either.

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

I'm still thinking Manchuria.   Prop planes, ww2,  New map, no carriers, plenty of Russian planes (many of which we already have), and an opportunity to do a few land based Japanese planes.  

 

Not saying I like this direction,  just that it seems one of the more likely scenarios.

Edited October 10, 2023 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[Gambit21]

10 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

I'm still thinking Manchuria.   Prop planes, ww2,  New map, no carriers, plenty of Russian planes (many of which we already have), and an opportunity to do a few land based Japanese planes.  

 

Not saying I like this direction,  just that it seems one of the more likely scenarios.