I think I may have crack the next Il-2 great battles,

[DBFlyguy]

4 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

 

Hmm, there is quite a large part of my reasoning that is screaming in my head, ''don't buy the whole shebang again, no!''...

If it's something new, I'd probably go for it however.

 

Say again all after 'probably', over!

Unless it's  drastically different (Large realistic flight sizes, AI 4 engine heavy bombers, drop tanks, revamped and actually useful comms menus, no more engine timers, competent AI...etc  from DAY 1) I just can't myself buying essentially same product all over again.

 

I've still got a little bit of hope that after all this ambiguity and silence they'll say there will be some compatibility with what we have... 

 

We'll see.

[ROCKET_KNUT]

2 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

Unless it's  drastically different (Large realistic flight sizes, AI 4 engine heavy bombers, drop tanks, revamped and actually useful comms menus, no more engine timers, competent AI...etc  from DAY 1) I just can't myself buying essentially same product all over again.

 

I've still got a little bit of hope that after all this ambiguity and silence they'll say there will be some compatibility with what we have... 

 

We'll see.

I´m looking forward to the day, all your requests plus those of many other players are going to be adressed. Not holding my breath though, let alone for day one, whenever that might be.

But even if they manage it though, the marketing team will have to work around the clock to convince me to buy into it like I used to do, i.e. buy more than one copy and give those away to support the team and all of that stuff. Just too much going on here I disagree with for the last year or so.  

[FliegerAD]

On 9/15/2023 at 4:14 AM, LukeFF said:

 

EDIT: Okay, I found the video and the accompanying transcript. They say Italy is not likely at this time, so it doesn't mean it's ruled out officially. ?

 

Didn't they say the large urban areas are a problem, specifically Rome?

 

That would leave the door wide open for northern Italy, with many but small cities, or even better: the northern Adriatic with Italy and Yugoslavia. Depending on the map size that could include late war  Italian, German, Soviet and western Allied aircraft all at once...

[ITAF_Rani]

1 hour ago, FliegerAD said:

Didn't they say the large urban areas are a problem, specifically Rome?

The south of Italy had not so much urbanization during 1943...where a lot of operations happened...

[Jade_Monkey]

19 hours ago, deathmisser said:

Found it.

    

 

 Looks like the new thing could be the Finnish air force ?

As it would be a first time that it's other than Germany vs Soviet and Germany vs the allies.

Plus most of the Finnish aircraft can be used in other models too. 

 

 

They announced a community made map (I think DD342?) and my bet is that Karelia is the one. 

 

There was a big thread of a group of Finnish ppl building it on their own and then it all went very quiet when they had some sort of agreement with the team.

 

I don't think Karelia is the next official location.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Jade_Monkey

[Blooddawn1942]

Regarding community made maps... Years ago there was a team working on an Odessa map. They even had some screenshots to show back then. Does anybody knows what happened to that project? I guess it's long dead? 

[Jade_Monkey]

1 hour ago, Blooddawn1942 said:

Regarding community made maps... Years ago there was a team working on an Odessa map. They even had some screenshots to show back then. Does anybody knows what happened to that project? I guess it's long dead? 

Pretty sure Zeus was folded into the official team, and Odessa map was discontinued.

 

I believe he did a lot of the improvements that we saw on the Velikie Luki Summer map, and assuming he is part of the current team (?)

[Juri_JS]

1 hour ago, Blooddawn1942 said:

Regarding community made maps... Years ago there was a team working on an Odessa map. They even had some screenshots to show back then. Does anybody knows what happened to that project? I guess it's long dead? 

I guess the Odessa project is dead. Too bad it wasn't continued, it would have been the perfect map for the Iar 80/81 in 1941 and 1944 scenarios. But apparently some objects from the map made it into the game. In the Blocks list of the mission editor there are three objects that start with "od_", I guess they come from the Odessa map.

[Blooddawn1942]

Yeah. What a pity.

[Enceladus828]

Not to be vindictive here, I would like to know what the holdup is with this announcement because I’m not buying the fact that it’s because the devs want to make sure features such as Drop Tanks, swimming animations for pilots and or AI warning you of someone on your 6 will work as intended. Although the features listed above are not applicable to WW1 aircraft, I find it very puzzling that FC3 and a brief outline of what comes after that were able to be announced. 
 

With the BoBP announcement, the devs gave an outline of what they plan to accomplish during that development cycle such and Oxygen masks for pilots, AI improvements, etc., and Drop Tanks were the only thing that didn’t come. For the BoN announcement the devs listed some ‘in works’ features that were planned to be added, see below.

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This includes such items as, Air Marshal, improved MP Lobby, GUI-based Object Viewer, new rendering techniques and drop-tanks. Of course, this is on top of all the numerous small improvements, tweaks, fixes and enhancements we will continue to work on.

In this case the Air Marshal and Drop Tanks didn’t come. I don’t feel the devs are under any obligation to announce features with a “Battle of…” announcement and if there are any which may not work as intended then just wait until you know for sure but don’t hold up telling us what aircraft and map we’ll get because of just that. 
 

Unless aircraft and map development have been held up, or an absolute worst case scenario the aircraft and map are still be decided on, I don’t understand why we can’t get an announcement that just tells us the new planes and map.

 

Thank you.

[JG27_Steini]

5 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

Not to be vindictive here, I would like to know what the holdup is with this announcement because I’m not buying the fact that it’s because the devs want to make sure features such as Drop Tanks, swimming animations for pilots and or AI warning you of someone on your 6 will work as intended. Although the features listed above are not applicable to WW1 aircraft, I find it very puzzling that FC3 and a brief outline of what comes after that were able to be announced. 
 

With the BoBP announcement, the devs gave an outline of what they plan to accomplish during that development cycle such and Oxygen masks for pilots, AI improvements, etc., and Drop Tanks were the only thing that didn’t come. For the BoN announcement the devs listed some ‘in works’ features that were planned to be added, see below.

In this case the Air Marshal and Drop Tanks didn’t come. I don’t feel the devs are under any obligation to announce features with a “Battle of…” announcement and if there are any which may not work as intended then just wait until you know for sure but don’t hold up telling us what aircraft and map we’ll get because of just that. 
 

Unless aircraft and map development have been held up, or an absolute worst case scenario the aircraft and map are still be decided on, I don’t understand why we can’t get an announcement that just tells us the new planes and map.

 

Thank you.

 

The new doctrine is too announce new features as they are functional. This is the only thing i would understand why the accouncement is on hold.

 

That means they test new features until they are ready to announce them. 

[LukeFF]

Marketing has its reasons for why the announcement has not yet been made, and for professional reasons I cannot go into them here. ?

[JG27_Steini]

20 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

Marketing has its reasons for why the announcement has not yet been made, and for professional reasons I cannot go into them here. ?

 

You are no help at all ?

 

I thought you were on our side once ?

[LukeFF]

Just now, JG27_Steini said:

You are no help at all ?

 

I thought you were on our side once ?

 

I am on your side, but I also want to keep my job. ? 

[JG27_Steini]

Just now, LukeFF said:

 

I am on your side, but I also want to keep my job. ? 

 

Thats waht i wanted to asked you already. Would you please take some time and describe your job a little bit. Is it a full time job and what are your main duties? Thx. Do you have other task then watch over the community?

[Koziolek]

Locking down threads? ?

[LukeFF]

10 minutes ago, JG27_Steini said:

Thats waht i wanted to asked you already. Would you please take some time and describe your job a little bit. Is it a full time job and what are your main duties? Thx. Do you have other task then watch over the community?

 

It's a part-time job for now. Besides watching the forum here, I also run the Discord server and Facebook and Twitter accounts, plus I interact on the Steam forum (though it's Rapidus that posts news about IL2 on the Steam page - he's the Russian community manager). On Reddit, I don't interact as much but still will post a link to the latest announcements.

 

I give the developers feedback on what people are saying about the game (i.e., issues, complaints, etc.). Besides all that, I also help coordinate (in conjunction with Rapidus) community events like the air race event a few months back, screenshot contests, and proofread all the text before it goes live here. I also of course write those "this week in history" posts, as well as other special projects like unit biographies for career mode. Speaking of which, I'll be starting on those for (ahem) the new project this week. ? And, of course I still help out with beta testing.

[JG27_Steini]

17 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

It's a part-time job for now. Besides watching the forum here, I also run the Discord server and Facebook and Twitter accounts, plus I interact on the Steam forum (though it's Rapidus that posts news about IL2 on the Steam page - he's the Russian community manager). On Reddit, I don't interact as much but still will post a link to the latest announcements.

 

I give the developers feedback on what people are saying about the game (i.e., issues, complaints, etc.). Besides all that, I also help coordinate (in conjunction with Rapidus) community events like the air race event a few months back, screenshot contests, and proofread all the text before it goes live here. I also of course write those "this week in history" posts, as well as other special projects like unit biographies for career mode. Speaking of which, I'll be starting on those for (ahem) the new project this week. ? And, of course I still help out with beta testing.

 

Thx for sharing.

[Trooper117]

They probably haven't announced anything for months because things may have changed drastically from what they originally planned, or possibly if the next project is not compatible with the existing GB series, they may be worried that people may not continue to buy the existing things still in the pipeline and wait for the new game.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

And, of course I still help out with beta testing.

How works the Becker Gun on the Albatros D.II ? 
?

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

17 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

How works the Becker Gun on the Albatros D.II ? 
?

This becker gun is just  insult to history. Which they care about, right?  When they were doing micro transaction with ROF it was the reason to make money. But why adding it now ?

 

Edited September 18, 2023 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[LukeFF]

The criteria back when these weapon mods were originally made was that there only had to be photographic proof of their existence. Nothing more, nothing less. ?

 

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

57 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

The criteria back when these weapon mods were originally made was that there only had to be photographic proof of their existence. Nothing more, nothing less. ?

 

 

Thanks. That explains why it was added back then. I was hoping that they find old reason not valid in today's higher standards. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by 1PL-Husar-1Esk

[dburne]

3 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

They probably haven't announced anything for months because things may have changed drastically from what they originally planned, or possibly if the next project is not compatible with the existing GB series, they may be worried that people may not continue to buy the existing things still in the pipeline and wait for the new game.

 

I think they are just yanking our chains and laughing their butts off.

But that is just me. 

[JG4_Moltke1871]

2 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

This becker gun is just  insult to history. Which they care about, right?  When they were doing micro transaction with ROF it was the reason to make money. But why adding it now ?

 

In that case it’s an honour for me to continue the test of late 1916 to make the Becker Gun on Albatros top an useful and deadly option for the Luftstreitkräfte online/offline today ?

[Trooper117]

The 'Becker Pecker'... it makes your kill rate 'larger'...

[ITAF_Rani]

Luke probably could tell us if during these months the next project was expanded by the adding of new features not scheduled one years ago...

[LukeFF]

6 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said:

Luke probably could tell us if during these months the next project was expanded by the adding of new features not scheduled one years ago...

 

I could, but then I wasn't aware this time last year of what new features were planned. ?

[JG7_X-Man]

On 9/18/2023 at 12:31 PM, LukeFF said:

 

I am on your side, but I also want to keep my job. ? 

Best line ever!

[kestrel79]

I get holding all the cards to the vest, there is some competition in the sim market these days. Especially if they have new tech and gameplay ideas different from your average sim game the last 20 years or so. Warthunder, DCS, Combat Pilot, MSFS24.

 

With that said I thought they could at least give us something...will it be just an engine update and all the previous planes and tanks will come over? Kinda like what DCS and Warthunder have done when they did major updates, or will it start from scratch? That's my biggest question right now. 

[dburne]

19 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

I get holding all the cards to the vest, there is some competition in the sim market these days. Especially if they have new tech and gameplay ideas different from your average sim game the last 20 years or so. Warthunder, DCS, Combat Pilot, MSFS24.

 

With that said I thought they could at least give us something...will it be just an engine update and all the previous planes and tanks will come over? Kinda like what DCS and Warthunder have done when they did major updates, or will it start from scratch? That's my biggest question right now. 

 

Of course they could, they could have done so a long time ago. It is totally in their control and they are not yet willing to do so.

What are we going on a year now of this?

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by dburne

[MAJ_stug41]

Mmhhmm, could it be courland?

Fills out late russian aircraft to bring them up to par with the west, and just a bit more LW stuff and theyre well rounded.

La7, tu2, flyable b25, later a20, some type of yak.

Is late war eastern. Doesnt have any pop centers as riga could be eastern edge of map. Map would be smaller than kuban, but still have plenty of interesting stuff. Potential for some additional naval action with cruisers and transports.

[MAJ_stug41]

2 hours ago, 86th_Leifr said:

Late war Eastern is terribly uninspiring

What is more uninspiring about late war east compared to late war west?

Late war west was just a curbstomp irl, and there are no big hombers and is no nightfighting to be done at the moment. At least in the east the LW could still contest the skies, the combat was on a scale more conducive to what this game can do, and there are plenty of interesting soviet aircraft to be added.

[Trooper117]

I keep telling you, it's Korea... the writings on the wall chaps!

[Closencounters]

Strategic Bomber campaign in western Europe, Its dumb it hasn't been done yet tbh. Main air war for more then half the war is effectively unrepresented in a game about the air war in Europe during ww2. Its silly.

[357th_KW]

1 hour ago, Closencounters said:

Strategic Bomber campaign in western Europe, Its dumb it hasn't been done yet tbh. Main air war for more then half the war is effectively unrepresented in a game about the air war in Europe during ww2. Its silly.

I’d like to hope that we’ll at least see an AI B-17 or B-24 at some point in the future.  But we’ve already got almost all the fighters that took part in the campaign, and a pretty decent map for it as well.  If you’re interested in flying those type of missions, you should really check out the server I’m running.

 

 

[Mad_Mikhael]

- Our western audience want Pacific, but our eastern players want Eastern front, what should we do next?

- Why not both?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

 

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[Guest deleted@83466]

I’m totally in awe of all the genius I see on display in this thread.

[Mtnbiker1998]

7 hours ago, Mad_Mikhael said:

- Our western audience want Pacific, but our eastern players want Eastern front, what should we do next?

- Why not both?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

 

?

For the love of god, please do not release a Pacific dlc without US Naval aircraft. I can't think of a worse way to kill a series.

[Trooper117]

2 hours ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

I can't think of a worse way to kill a series.