DCS FW190-D9 release countdown

[Emgy]

I'm a bit doubtful of either the P-51 damage model or the weapon/ammo modelling on the Fw-190. One P-51 kept flying after being hit by 3x 20mm (2x HEI) and 8x 13mm without any real issue. Seems a bit unlikely to me.

 

 

There's a .50 cal thread on the ED forums (of course there is, we even have one on the Bos forums with no in-game Brownings yet) where people speculate that one round will hit several sub-sections of the plane, and every hit will register as one hit in the log. So, you could get many registered hits just from one round. Possible also that HE fragmentation effect is a factor here. 

Don't know if this was confirmed.

Edited August 6, 2014 by Calvamos

[skouras]

Don't get me wrong.With nothing special I mean standard issue of ED,same quality as their 1st WW2 warbird,Mustang.It swimms nice in the air,has in some respects better tuned FM (rudder and elevator authority) etc.But that is all.As for me,collector and backer of all possible flight sims, nice toy.But this toy will become very boring for me after while.Why? There is no WW2 environment to fly it in.And with all due respect to ED,their anounced map of Normandy is nowhere to be seen and released maybe only next year.And frankly,that choice is not very well done.When Doras were geting into frontline service (like sept 44) front line was long time gone from Normandy.More appropriate choice would be map of Belgium,southern Netherlnands a Ardennes.That would give nice and interesting background for many historical battles.

we are talking about the aircraft and not for some historical battles here buddy!!!Normandy with EDGE will be awesome....

as for the DCS FW-190 D9 for those who are thinking to buy it or not,go and grab it

the simulation of this aircraft is one of the best i ever flown

full clickable cockpit

awesome ground handling

very good FM overall

great sounds

many of the features are placeholder

wait untill DCSW 2.0 came out!!!

[Krause]

I'm about to test the Dora in a few minutes but the thing that you have to use differential rudder pedals for brake when you are taxing makes me a bit scared because I don't own any rudder pedals

[Bounder]

well, after a couple of flights with the Dora, I must say that I am extremely pleased with the result. To say that this Dora is "nothing special" is IMHO a cruel understatement. It's practically the most realistic and functional depiction of the Dora we've ever had.

 

Cockpit quality is great. High-res gauges really make a difference. For me, that is. Most of the work is not visual, though. DCS is all about this under-the-hood stuff that makes my inner geek giggle.

 

I wasn't much of a Luftwaffle fan before, but this bird is in a league of its own. Overall, it's an amazing bird to fly. 

This. so. much.

Had a criminal amount of fun tonight, really going to have to practice but boy is she is a beauty. P51 vs D9 online was awesome.

[TheBlackPenguin]

Didn't get much time with it tonight, started up, realised too late my toe brakes were reversed. Oh it has a wooden prop...Getting used to Taxiing (nothing new here) and broke a win tip.

 

I will get better and will likely get the F-86.

 

I love flight simming .

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Testing the Dora has to wait for me, going to a metal festival for the weekend \m/ Dora was a good plane and by the looks of it has been modelled as such too Can't wait to fly it

[Blooddawn1942]

PartySan?

[Matt]

There's a .50 cal thread on the ED forums (of course there is, we even have one on the Bos forums with no in-game Brownings yet) where people speculate that one round will hit several sub-sections of the plane, and every hit will register as one hit in the log. So, you could get many registered hits just from one round. Possible also that HE fragmentation effect is a factor here. 

Don't know if this was confirmed.

OK if that's the case, then i guess it could be correct. Then it's down to 2x 20mm and 3x 13mm in this specific case, which could been survivable perhaps.

 

I'll most likely practice this a bit more. Maybe i'll even manage to land.

 

I do not dare to fly online yet though.

[Finkeren]

Don't get me wrong.With nothing special I mean standard issue of ED,same quality as their 1st WW2 warbird,Mustang.It swimms nice in the air,has in some respects better tuned FM (rudder and elevator authority) etc.But that is all.As for me,collector and backer of all possible flight sims, nice toy.But this toy will become very boring for me after while.Why? There is no WW2 environment to fly it in.And with all due respect to ED,their anounced map of Normandy is nowhere to be seen and released maybe only next year.And frankly,that choice is not very well done.When Doras were geting into frontline service (like sept 44) front line was long time gone from Normandy.More appropriate choice would be map of Belgium,southern Netherlnands a Ardennes.That would give nice and interesting background for many historical battles.

This is my overall concern with DCS WW2 as well. There seems to be very little thought given to actually recreating a realistic environment for the otherwise very well modelled planes, which to me is half (or even more) of what makes a succesful CFS. With such a limited plane set, it's going to take a living, sprawling environment, a realistic immersive campaign system and loads of different mission types to keep things interesting.

[Jaws2002]

I don't like dcs much for only one reason. They sell the same stuff over and over again and parts of their game engine are so old it kills it for me. I got a lot of their stuff and enjoyed flying most of their products, but when I see stuff and ways of doing things I saw in the original LOMAC, many years ago, it kills it for me.

Their planes are the best, but they need to start fresh, from a clean sheet of paper. All that old crap in their engine holds them back.

[Brano]

we are talking about the aircraft and not for some historical battles here buddy!!!Normandy with EDGE will be awesome....

as for the DCS FW-190 D9 for those who are thinking to buy it or not,go and grab it

the simulation of this aircraft is one of the best i ever flown

full clickable cockpit

awesome ground handling

very good FM overall

great sounds

many of the features are placeholder

wait untill DCSW 2.0 came out!!!

 

No need for so many exclamation marks,buddy.Everyone is perfectly entitled to have his own opinion on matters.I say that it is nice addition to my virtual plane collection.Unfortunately with no place to play with it.Like buying Ferrari when living in Sahara.I try to stay objective and not get overexcited over things.And also not bashing one sim while praising other one overlooking its obvious flaws.If you are OK to fly Dora (and Kurfurst and Schwalbe) over Normandy,well,suit yourself.If you like how DM is visualized,suit yourself.For me,it just made me switch back to BoS to fly my poorly designed LaGG3 with flawed cheated VVS DN engine FM  

[FuriousMeow]

Yo-Yo did say they raised the viewpoint and Revi in the dcs 190D.  Though, just from eyeballing it, looks like ED didn't raise it as high as 777.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2132499&postcount=348

 

 

You cut out the most important part regarding the viewpoint and the Revi in the 190...

 

 

 

I wonder, why nobody noticed that the slanted thick glass shifts not only the bar down but the whole picture including engine cowl and all world outside? So, I want to say that the visible field including the bar obstacle will be the same with or without refraction.

 

I've been saying that all along but everyone is so focused on just the lower retention frame that it is the only thing they believe refraction will have an impact on.

[Tektolnes]

I'm not bothered by the bar in either DCS or BOS. What I really want BOS to improve though is the visibility of the instruments. In BOS if you want to see all the lower instruments and your RPM gauge you have to lower your viewpoint so much that the Revi sight isn't visible. If you raise your view so the Revi is visible your lower instruments are partially cut-off and your RPM gauge is hugely cut-off - you can't see anything past 1800RPM without ducking your head. In DCS however (granted a different 190 model) everything is clearly visible with the same type of view. I'd very much doubt that Kurt Tank designed the RPM gauge that couldn't be monitored very easily. Hopefully BOS can be changed to give us a view closer to what the reality was in that respect.

[ST_ami7b5]

This is my overall concern with DCS WW2 as well. There seems to be very little thought given to actually recreating a realistic environment for the otherwise very well modelled planes, which to me is half (or even more) of what makes a succesful CFS. With such a limited plane set, it's going to take a living, sprawling environment, a realistic immersive campaign system and loads of different mission types to keep things interesting.

 

Yes, my Mustang and Dora are beautiful planes flying above absolutely ugly map.

So they will probably stay in my hangars collecting dust until a WWII map/theatre appears.

Of course I'll take them for a ride from time to time just for the pure joy of flying.

But, as others said, BoS offers much more balanced experience - planes/theatre ATM.

[BFsSmurfy]

I`m with the fellow above. The EDGE Nevada screenshots I saw were showing some sort of a town...to me it looked like a late 1990s PS1 game has anyone got a link to the stunning scenery I`m led to believe that this EDGE creates???. I`m not a great fan of DCS stuff tbh, I prefer a full package, theatre, aircraft, opposition, multiple players and a dedicated server, I`ve owned the P51 from the start and apart from spending an eternity doing what the groundcrew would already have done for the pilot I`ve see little of interest and it has seen little use because of lack of the aforementioned. BoS gives you theatre. opposition, multiple aircraft and hopefully dedicated server software in the future, be a long time before DCS has those features at the current rate of output.