Crashbangwallop Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 $19.99. Does this mean that it's arrival is... imminent? ?
YoYo Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Crashbangwallop said: $19.99. Does this mean that it's arrival is... imminent? ? Thx, however I dont see (maybe yet) discount for DC-3 owners (even after login). Let's make a deal, this model was not developed 100% as new, and it's a DC-3 modification, so I'm counting on half of this price for DC-3 owners, and if not, I'll wait for the sale that will be in the future sooner or later ? https://il2sturmovik.com/store/collector-planes/ Edited August 3, 2023 by YoYo 3
FuriousMeow Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 There are planes that are variants of other planes we already have and you don't get half price for those new variants. This is no different with the Li-2. The real world of it being a modified DC-3/C-47 is a lot different than creating a "modification" for a game. 1
YoYo Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, FuriousMeow said: There are planes that are variants of other planes we already have and you don't get half price for those new variants. This is no different with the Li-2. The real world of it being a modified DC-3/C-47 is a lot different than creating a "modification" for a game. That's why I'm in no rush. Honestly, I haven't flown the DC-3 much so it's still a new addon to me even though I pre-ordered it near one year before ;). A good price for owners of DC-3 would be an incentive and so'll wait. It's a bit of a different category for me as a combat aircraft, despite the fact that I have everything from the IL-2 ?.
I./JG52_Woutwocampe Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 Yeah I kinda agree with this too. I have no problem paying full price for Iar80, Hurricane, mc202 but come on, Li-2, Spit Mark XIVe and the next 109G6 for high alt sold like they were made entirely from scratch at full price? Not a fan. 2
Enceladus828 Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 I’m currently far from the place where I play flight sims (save for 1946 and CloD which I play on my laptop using the keyboard) and I just bought the Li-2 though will probably not be able to fly it until this December.
Avimimus Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 I hope this is a sign of release coming soon! 10 hours ago, YoYo said: Thx, however I dont see (maybe yet) discount for DC-3 owners (even after login). Let's make a deal, this model was not developed 100% as new, and it's a DC-3 modification, so I'm counting on half of this price for DC-3 owners, and if not, I'll wait for the sale that will be in the future sooner or later ? https://il2sturmovik.com/store/collector-planes/ I don't believe a discount was ever promised... obviously you can wait for the sales. Honestly, the two designs are really different: - Completely different engines - Different cockpit (different instruments and layout) - Different cargo compartment (and cargo loads) - Addition of dorsal and side turrets - Addition of bomb-sights, bombs, armour protection, fire suppression systems The more I read about it the clearer it is that it is essentially a totally new plane except for the wings/tail and landing-gear This isn't the Soviet C-47... it is another branch of the DC-3 family entirely... so I think it is quite reasonable if they want to charge as a separate plane. My two cents. 3 2 6
tattywelshie Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 I don't understand folks complaining about the LI-2, its a totally different aircraft to the DC3 with a completely different mission set and interesting sounding career mode. 6 hours ago, Avimimus said: I hope this is a sign of release coming soon! I don't believe a discount was ever promised... obviously you can wait for the sales. Honestly, the two designs are really different: - Completely different engines - Different cockpit (different instruments and layout) - Different cargo compartment (and cargo loads) - Addition of dorsal and side turrets - Addition of bomb-sights, bombs, armour protection, fire suppression systems The more I read about it the clearer it is that it is essentially a totally new plane except for the wings/tail and landing-gear This isn't the Soviet C-47... it is another branch of the DC-3 family entirely... so I think it is quite reasonable if they want to charge as a separate plane. My two cents. Well said 1
Avimimus Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 To be honest - I was originally thinking along those lines myself. When the C-47 was announced I said essentially 'Oh, they can now easily make an Li-2'! It is only after a lot of reading that I've discovered just how different (and remarkable) a plane it was. For instance, the bomber versions could quickly be converted into transports or medical evacuation planes... and some of the stories about how they resupplied partisans... or kept the Leningrad airbridge open - well, I now suspect that transport pilots often need quite a bit more daring than fighter pilots did. Suffice it to say - this aircraft will be worth it as an addition to the sim. 4
Crashbangwallop Posted August 4, 2023 Author Posted August 4, 2023 8 hours ago, Avimimus said: This isn't the Soviet C-47... it is another branch of the DC-3 family entirely... so I think it is quite reasonable if they want to charge as a separate plane. My two cents. Agree. I only included the reduced price as a positive. Wish I hadn't now... I do still hope it's imminent though - been looking forward to this for a while ?
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 4, 2023 1CGS Posted August 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Avimimus said: I don't believe a discount was ever promised... obviously you can wait for the sales. Honestly, the two designs are really different: - Completely different engines - Different cockpit (different instruments and layout) - Different cargo compartment (and cargo loads) - Addition of dorsal and side turrets - Addition of bomb-sights, bombs, armour protection, fire suppression systems The more I read about it the clearer it is that it is essentially a totally new plane except for the wings/tail and landing-gear This isn't the Soviet C-47... it is another branch of the DC-3 family entirely... so I think it is quite reasonable if they want to charge as a separate plane. My two cents. What he said. ? Beyond that, there is the reality that coders, modelers, and texture artists have had to commit a fairly standard amount of time to ensure everything is working properly with this new model. Trust me, it hasn't been a matter of just taking the base C-47 model, tweaking a few things, and calling it good. ? 2 1
simfan2015 Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 I can only imagine how long it took to develop the new li-2. It won't have happened overnight, that I am sure. And I already know that... by the time I can take-off in it with my pico 4 VR that I will have completely forgotton whatever I paid for it anyway ? !
[CPT]Pike*HarryM Posted August 4, 2023 Posted August 4, 2023 And the new soviet paratroopers to go with it...
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