Well, crap... guess I *do* need a new video-card...

[1Sascha]

?

 

Or, perhaps, just a bit more VRAM ... which amounts to the same thing.. ?

 

 

This was during a career mission on the Normandy-map. I *think* there were 6 or 8 Spits plus 8 109s in the vicinity when I shot the clip from which the pic is taken. My GPU is running at full boost (undervolted and OCed), but never got hotter than 55° (GPU) and 70° C (hotspot) and also was well below its usual max power-draw. I'm not sure if that means anything, but VRAM was maxed out pretty much all the way (went a tad higher, actually, than in this shot).

 

This is an RTX 3070, BTW driving a Rift-S and I had already reduced my in-game settings from High to Medium preset and dialed back some of  the more insignificant stuff ... so it's not like I'm trying to run the game on super-high settings or anything like that.

 

All of a sudden, even that 4070 with its 12GB of VRAM looks mighty tempting ... ?

 

 

S.

 

 

Edited July 26, 2023 by 1Sascha

[Charger_]

VR is a tough and demanding beast that's for sure.

 

But man, it's friggin worth it.

 

At some point 2nd hand 3090 cards will be cheaper.

 

And maybe AMD might get back in the game too. 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Charger_

[Argosafe]

Hello, 

 

Could you let me know how you got RTSS to appear in VR please - I use it to check usage/temps etc but can't get it to appear

[1Sascha]

20 hours ago, Argosafe said:

Could you let me know how you got RTSS to appear in VR please - I use it to check usage/temps etc but can't get it to appear

It doesn't appear in VR for me - well, not in the headset, at least. In the VR mirror window however, it appears just fine - as you can see.

 

I usually let HW Monitor run in the background to check performance/temps, but that will only show me single min/max values after I alt-tab out or quit VR. So I was looking for a way to check my PC's performance during a whole mission, or at least during a whole engagement and this seemed the simplest. I verified that RT would be displayed in the mirror-window, then ran the mission and used NVidia's capture tool to record. Then I simply ran that video file after exiting the game/VR and took a screenshot. I cut the pic off on the right, but you can still see parts of the "right-eye pic" in the shot.

 

The capture tool seems very easy on resources, so I don't think recording the mission messed up my results. My VRAM was pretty much full all the time while in combat, even without the capture tool recording.

 

On 7/27/2023 at 8:08 AM, Charger_ said:

At some point 2nd hand 3090 cards will be cheaper.

 

Meh... I don't think I'm going to stick with 30xx if I upgrade. The longer I wait for them to drop in price, the older these cards will be. Plus looking at power-consumption, that's one area where 40xx wipes the floor with 30xx. 4070 is pretty similar to 3080 WRT sheer performance, but it draws a lot less power - not just TDP (200W vs 350W) but from all testing I've seen on the usual channels, this very much affects RL consumption as well. Which means I would need to upgrade my PSU (probably). It's a Seasonic Focus Gold 550W which is totally fine for my 3070 and would be for a 4070 and probably a 4070 Ti as well. But anything more power-hungry than that and I'd want to upgrade my PSU ... which would be another €100 to €130 on top of whatever the GPU costs me.

 

DerBauer made a rough calculation in his 4070-video, assuming 4 hours of gameplay per day ... which would result in higher electricity-cost of €50 per year for the 3080 over the 4070.

 

 

 

S.

 

 

 

 

[Argosafe]

Thanks for letting me know.  I'll try those ideas.

[1Sascha]

I just checked the whole clip (9 minutes) and except for one instance where my FPS briefly dropped into the low 70s (think when I applied level 1 zoom), the performance looks quite decent, actually. I guess the real test would be those Sept 43, JG missions on Kuban where I'd have FPS drops of 50% at times and which would even give me pretty large FPS-drops when I flew then non-VR - like from my usual 165 FPS down to 70 to 80 FPS.

Sadly, that pilot is now dead, but I guess I could try re-creating the circumstances in the quick mission builder. Not sure if I can populate these quick missions with as many planes and ground objects as the career sometimes throws at you ... ?

 

I also have a clip taken on the same day and with the same settings from the quick mission builder and on the Rheinland-map. There were 6 LW planes (including myself) plus 4 P51s and 4 A-20s (plus probably some of those default ground targets you always get in QMs). The action is more or less between 2 and 4k in this one, so ground objects shouldn't be much of an issue. In any case... in that clip, my VRAM-usage was quite a bit lower (6.6 GB max). So I'm going to guess that sheer number of planes plays a role here (obviously) and probably the map does, too. Kuban and Normandy seem to be quite the performance-hogs - at least for me they are.

 

S.

Edited July 28, 2023 by 1Sascha

[1Sascha]

Oh well...

 

 

 

The "Gaming OC" went on a bit of a tiny flash-sale last night (€650 instead of €675 incl shipping), so I went for it. I was eyeying the KFA2/Galax EX Gamer before (~ €620 - gotta have some RBG-bling ? ), but I never used that brand before. Since I've been using Gigabyte since at least the GF GTX 460, and did successfully restrain myself from going 4070 Ti, I decided to indulge my own idiocy at least a little and went for the Gaming OC. Plus I won't be needing the added horsepower over the 3070 outside of VR (I don't do 4K-gaming).

 

So now I'm hoping this will be enough to drive that second hand G2 I snagged on ebay a couple of days ago.

 

 

S.

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by 1Sascha

[[CPT]Crunch]

Should be enough, but you won't be able to do 90 with all setting maxed.  Drop your shadows down and run in balanced, run full res and keep the MSAA off and you'll do just fine. 

[horendus]

This is exactly why I hunted down a (rarer) 3080 12GB many moons ago (before 4000 series). I had seen il2 VR eat 8GB for lunch on my previous card  and wanted some headroom for higher res headsets