1CGS LukeFF Posted July 7, 2023 1CGS Posted July 7, 2023 Dev blog #345 has been posted here: https://il2sturmovik.com/news/805/dev-blog-345/ 10 3 2
Blitzen Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I asked this question just yesterday in General Discussion, but is there a chance that snow skis could be included as an option?? 3
tattywelshie Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Now, that looks super interesting! I dont have the Dakota, but this best looks fun! Great work guys!
Styx13 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Great! We learned how to sell the same thing twice... ? (I know the differences, do not explain please!) Maybe a DC-3 next time? 1 1
IndianJones Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 I was a bit sceptical, but this actually looks really fun! I love that dinky turret.
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 7, 2023 Author 1CGS Posted July 7, 2023 38 minutes ago, YoYo said: Any discount for C-47 owners? Not that I am aware of.
Freycinet Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Can't wait to do gunfights in Li-2's... What could be more fun than circling around, trying to get on each other's tail, and then with the added fun of the target shooting back from the turret! A Li-2 dogfight server will be very popular, I think! 2 1 3
ShamrockOneFive Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Freycinet said: Can't wait to do gunfights in Li-2's... What could be more fun than circling around, trying to get on each other's tail, and then with the added fun of the target shooting back from the turret! A Li-2 dogfight server will be very popular, I think! Or the famous Axis vs Allies matchup... Li-2 vs Ju52 ? 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 7, 2023 Author 1CGS Posted July 7, 2023 By the way, for those wanting to know more about the Li-2's service record, this page is a good place to begin: https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/li-2/li-2.htm 1 5 3
fergal69 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Be interesting to see how it compares flight wise to the C-47 due to the turret & different engines that are fitted.
Trooper117 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said: Or the famous Axis vs Allies matchup... Li-2 vs Ju52 ? Well that's not fair for a start... the jerries have got an extra engine! 1
PatrickAWlson Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Trooper117 said: Well that's not fair for a start... the jerries have got an extra engine! But no forward firing gun. Kind of a Boulton Paul concept. 1
Avimimus Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 This is a must-read - even if you aren't into the Li-2 or U-2VS: Interview with Olga Mikhaylovna Lisikova – Lend-Lease 46 minutes ago, Freycinet said: Can't wait to do gunfights in Li-2's... What could be more fun than circling around, trying to get on each other's tail, and then with the added fun of the target shooting back from the turret! A Li-2 dogfight server will be very popular, I think! I have been thinking about this. It'll be challenging to get a kill, but if one succeeds it'll be very satisfying. It could also be interesting against some of the Flying Circus aircraft 1 hour ago, Blitzen said: I asked this question just yesterday in General Discussion, but is there a chance that snow skis could be included as an option?? I suspect that'd require quite a bit of additional coding. It'd be interesting though. I'm more curious what field modifications we get: 1) I'm hoping for a ShKAS option as well as a UB option for the dorsal turret. The ShKAS had more ammunition and could be used for deterring attacks, while the UB is more deadly - so it'd be neat if we get both. 2) There was an overload modification with reinforcements to the bomb racks to allow carrying the FAB-500. There was also an alternative bomb rack for eight FAB-100 bombs. Sideways firing door gunners were also common - so I'm wondering if we get any of these. 3) Cargo was often dropped from the side-bay doors (including sometimes without a parachute)... so I'm very interested in what cargo options we'll get. Much less likely: 4) Small bombs or crates of bomblets were also dropped out of the side doors (I don't expect this, but it would be cool). 5) RS-82 rockets were mounted under the wings, and one aircraft was modified with two forward firing NS-45 45mm automatic cannons for attacking trains. I suspect that there may not be enough photographic evidence for either of these modifications - but it'd be pretty hilarious to hunt searchlights or trains with such weapons. 1 2
JG4_Moltke1871 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 This plane will be a nice gimmick until wait flying circus 3.? Seriously I am sure it will be an interesting plane. The gunners canopy must be amazing in VR Hopefully it comes together with the FC3 release and the first new FC planes?
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 7, 2023 Author 1CGS Posted July 7, 2023 This is also good reading on the one currently flying Li-2, based out of Hungary: https://knaviation.net/flying-on-lisunov-li-2-budapest/ 2
Juri_JS Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 And let's not forget that the Li-2 was one of the most common Soviet night bombers. I will certainly add the Li-2 as AI aircraft to my "Night Fighters over the Kuban" campaign. Together with the DB-3/Il-4 the Li-2 was the bomber type most frequently encountered by Luftwaffe night fighters over the Strait of Kerch area. It would be nice if some Li-2 night bomber units could be added to Kuban career mode. However, I am not sure where the units where based. It's possible that their bases were located outside the map area. 4 3
AFKAMC Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 4 hours ago, YoYo said: Any discount for C-47 owners? 3 hours ago, LukeFF said: Not that I am aware of. ...that would be really, really nice though... hint...? 1 1
Ghost666 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Avimimus said: Sideways firing door gunners were also common - so I'm wondering if we get any of these. Look at the pictures real close, there is something sticking out back by the door! 1 1
FuriousMeow Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 In the screenshots doesn't look like a window is there, like in this model, but looks like the spot for side defensive weapons. 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 7, 2023 Author 1CGS Posted July 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ghost666 said: Look at the pictures real close, there is something sticking out back by the door! Yes, those are indeed ShKAS machine guns in those positions. ? The opening for them could also (according to this page) be opened and closed with a metal plate. 2
Avimimus Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Juri_JS said: And let's not forget that the Li-2 was one of the most common Soviet night bombers. I will certainly add the Li-2 as AI aircraft to my "Night Fighters over the Kuban" campaign. Together with the DB-3/Il-4 the Li-2 was the bomber type most frequently encountered by Luftwaffe night fighters over the Strait of Kerch area. It would be nice if some Li-2 night bomber units could be added to Kuban career mode. However, I am not sure where the units where based. It's possible that their bases were located outside the map area. It is also slow enough to be caught by the Ju-88C6a... so it isn't quite a Ju-88C6b vs Wellingtons or Halifaxs, but it is at least something in that direction for the Ju-88C to hunt.
Charon Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 How about bomb aiming? What will it have, and what will be functional? I notice the NKPB-7 is not yet present in any of the WIP screenshots, nor in Dev Blog #341. The U2-VS still doesn't have a working bombsight four and a half years after release -- I don't need another incomplete night bomber. Spoiler
Avimimus Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, I./JG3_Charon said: How about bomb aiming? What will it have, and what will be functional? I notice the NKPB-7 is not yet present in any of the WIP screenshots, nor in Dev Blog #341. The U2-VS still doesn't have a working bombsight four and a half years after release -- I don't need another incomplete night bomber. Reveal hidden contents According to Borovik (the guy who wrote the book on Sturmoviks) the NKPB-4 and OPB-1 sights were also used... so we might be getting one of those...?
bycomet Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 I don't own C-47. Wait for this at full price or get C-47 with some discount now?
69th_Mobile_BBQ Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 11 hours ago, Freycinet said: Can't wait to do gunfights in Li-2's... What could be more fun than circling around, trying to get on each other's tail, and then with the added fun of the target shooting back from the turret! A Li-2 dogfight server will be very popular, I think! If it outperforms Il-2's current best dogfighter, the 110, sign me up. :)
danielprates Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) "An armed transport aircraft with paratroopers and cargo inside - how much more versatile can you get?" Bombs target. "Oh look there is one survivor!" Straffes target. "oh no, you missed him! Look he is running to hide in that cave!" Paradrops an infantry platoon. "well ok we got'em now but our guys are going to get hungry out there" Paradrops supplies. Edited July 8, 2023 by danielprates 2 3
Avimimus Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 10 hours ago, bycomet said: I don't own C-47. Wait for this at full price or get C-47 with some discount now? That really depends on whether you want a C-47 or an Li-2...? The C-47 is a nice civilian transport. The Li-2 is a transport with the ability to convert it into a night bomber. P.S. I always found it interesting the the Lisunov Li-2 has weaker engines than the C-47, but the Soviets still managed to put guns and bombs on it! 1
senseispcc Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 So the LI-2 is one more plane to the impressive collection of planes in IL2, I and maybe everyone that plays IL2 hopes that World War 2 air combat is so vast that the catalog of planes possible shall never be full. And that in many, many years, we still shall have additions to this collection. Thanks!
Avimimus Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Yes, I really like the fact that they are running out of ordinary aircraft (That have appeared in twenty or thirty past flight sims) and are getting to some of the more unusual ones... gives plenty of opportunities for new experiences.
JG4_Moltke1871 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: Need more late biplanes. 123 1 2
derrick263 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Always look forward to these DD's. Great looking plane: necessity is the mother of invention. Extremely versatile aircraft.
IckyATLAS Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) Excellent addition to the eastern maps. Thanks devs its very appreciated. Next will come the IAR. I would like to have it added in my Kuban missions. Edited July 8, 2023 by IckyATLAS 1
Avimimus Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, IckyATLAS said: Excellent addition to the eastern maps. Thanks devs its very appreciated. Next will come the IAR. I would like to have it added in my Kuban missions. Yes, lots to look forward to: Lisunov Li-2 for all existing Eastern European maps IAR-80/81 for Stalingrad and Kuban I-153 for Moscow and Kuban (in 2024) Ju-88C for Stalingrad and Kuban (already released in Battle of Normandy) It is pretty amazing how a couple of aircraft can refresh an existing module! 1 1 4
sevenless Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 8 hours ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said: 123 Yep exactly. Hs 123 was used up until 1944. Would make a very good groundpounder for all three eastfront modules. 6
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