Update 5.104 has been published

[moustache]

51 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Sorry,  but there's nothing to report about Tank Crew right now.

 

 

Roooh!... and tactical codes in official missions, don't they count?

[LukeFF]

1 minute ago, moustache said:

 

 

Roooh!... and tactical codes in official missions, don't they count?

 

You know exactly what I meant when I made that post.

[ST_Catchov]

2 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Sorry,  but there's nothing to report about Tank Crew right now.

 

Never mind. I'll get through it somehow.

[R7-S276]

still waiting for flyable B-25 and B-26 (with all positions playable by human), a complete Normandie-Niemen campaign from 1943 to 1945, and Fi-156, Lysander planes… and I don’t write anymore about French WWII airplanes and tanks under a real and full flag nation as for Flying Circus…

[IRRE_Axurit]

Thank you for this update, where can we find the changelog?

Edited June 29, 2023 by IRRE_Axurit

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, IRRE_Axurit said:

Thank you for this update, where can we find the changelog?

 

From the first post: ? https://il2sturmovik.com/news/802/update-5104-sky-nomads-historical-campaign-three-n/

 

On 6/27/2023 at 10:34 PM, SYN_Ricky said:

Will the recon and artillery missions also be available later on in FC for two-seaters? Those were their primary missions in WWI. 

 

They are there in career mode already. For MP, it should be possible to have them in Coop but definitely not in DF. 

[Styx13]

GREAT NEWS!

 

Please consider to create a channel front carreer (1941-1944) using the Normandy map. 

 

Almost every required item (planes, vechicles, ships, etc.) exist and could be a great single player challenge, so I think no much work needed from a dev perspective. 

[LukeFF]

37 minutes ago, Styx13 said:

GREAT NEWS!

 

Please consider to create a channel front carreer (1941-1944) using the Normandy map. 

 

Almost every required item (planes, vechicles, ships, etc.) exist and could be a great single player challenge, so I think no much work needed from a dev perspective. 

 

It's more work than you think. ?

[Styx13]

7 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

It's more work than you think. ?

Thats right, and I am not a professional. Just let me some wishfull thinking. ?

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

It's more work than you think. ?

 

It would be a nice excuse to upgrade the channel map though (improved British targets, maybe hedgerows)... also, as a Canadian, Operation Jubilee is a big deal. I wonder if a third party could do that?

 

Anyway, setting aside the map details we already have a lot of the desired plane set (Fw-190A3, Bf-109F, Bf-109G2, Hurricane IIB/IIC, Spit Vb, and Spit IXc early). The gaps would be a British A-20 variant (Boston III), the Fw-190A4/U18, the Mustang Mk.I, Typhoon (early canopy) and the Do-217E.

 

So a Do-217E4 and a Mustang Mk.I collector plane are probably the biggest missing pieces. Dieppe itself is also pretty detailed. In terms of ground object a British Motor Gun Boat and a Churchill Mk. I would be the obvious gaps for Jubilee.

 

So we're surprisingly close already.

 

That said, I know it is more work than I think (it always is)...

[CUJO_1970]

44 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

Anyway, setting aside the map details we already have a lot of the desired plane set (Fw-190A3, Bf-109F, Bf-109G2, Hurricane IIB/IIC, Spit Vb, and Spit IXc early). The gaps would be a British A-20 variant (Boston III), the Fw-190A4/U18, the Mustang Mk.I, Typhoon (early canopy) and the Do-217E.

 

So a Do-217E4 and a Mustang Mk.I collector plane are probably the biggest missing pieces. Dieppe itself is also pretty detailed. In terms of ground object a British Motor Gun Boat and a Churchill Mk. I would be the obvious gaps for Jubilee.

 

So we're surprisingly close already.

 

That said, I know it is more work than I think (it always is)...

 

You need P-38H and P-47C/D10 to have US 1943 represented.

[Rodwonder]

2 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

It's more work than you think. ?

 

Yes, it's probably a ton of work... But it's to me and I think many others that it's one of the most interesting timelines in the ETO. The forces were pretty much even at the time, there were many interesting airplanes that we have now and could have more as has been stated. I'm not an Online Player type but this period is so evenly matched that it just screams multi-player. And no one has really ever done this part of WW2 in the air beyond mods for Il2 1946 and European Air War that I know of. Just my 2 cents or 80 dollars... 

[Yogiflight]

As there is now artillery spotting mission type and recon mission type added, I wonder if we will get at some point an attack assaulting enemy tank mission type or a support friendly attack mission type for ground attack aircrafts like the IL-2 or the Bf 109 E7, FW 190 A5 and Hs 129. These are important mission types, which are missing for these kinds of aircrafts, plus they could be used for fighter bombers as well.

[Avimimus]

47 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said:

You need P-38H and P-47C/D10 to have US 1943 represented.

 

Ah, yes... I was only talking about 1942... I believe the Dieppe raid was the first time American commandos officially saw combat in Europe since WWI, but it was only a relatively small contingent (and the Mustangs were flown by the British, while the Americans were flying Spitfires and B-17E during that operation).

 

By 1943 this has changed, of course.

 

  

15 minutes ago, Yogiflight said:

As there is now artillery spotting mission type and recon mission type added, I wonder if we will get at some point an attack assaulting enemy tank mission type or a support friendly attack mission type for ground attack aircrafts like the IL-2 or the Bf 109 E7, FW 190 A5 and Hs 129. These are important mission types, which are missing for these kinds of aircrafts, plus they could be used for fighter bombers as well.

 

Those do sound fun.

[Guest deleted@219798]

Will lone patrols ever be added to Flying Circus careers? It seems that WW1 career missions are versions of WW2 missions.

[LukeFF]

54 minutes ago, kestrel444x500 said:

Will lone patrols ever be added to Flying Circus careers? It seems that WW1 career missions are versions of WW2 missions.

 

I'll ask and see. ?

[RyanR]

Has anything been done to make career mode "playable"? Things were so ridiculous (ridiculous odds, bombers that can't stay in formation, etc), that I went to PWCG six months ago and haven't looked back.

 

-Ryan

[LukeFF]

5 minutes ago, RyanR said:

Has anything been done to make career mode "playable"? Things were so ridiculous (ridiculous odds, bombers that can't stay in formation, etc), that I went to PWCG six months ago and haven't looked back.

 

-Ryan

 

Yes, lots has been done, but like anything else, it's always going to be a work in progress. 

[Guest deleted@219798]

Should there be so much use of Handley Page and Gotha bombers flying short range tactical daytime missions in FC career? How often did HP in particular even fly daytime missions? Flying a Jasta 6 1918 career escorting Gothas just over the lines is a fairly regular mission. In Rise of Flight escort mission only involved 2 seaters and twin engined bombers weren't seen. When I flew a Gotha career in RoF mission were flown at night.

[JG4_Moltke1871]

1 hour ago, kestrel444x500 said:

Should there be so much use of Handley Page and Gotha bombers flying short range tactical daytime missions in FC career? How often did HP in particular even fly daytime missions? Flying a Jasta 6 1918 career escorting Gothas just over the lines is a fairly regular mission. In Rise of Flight escort mission only involved 2 seaters and twin engined bombers weren't seen. When I flew a Gotha career in RoF mission were flown at night.

There are Gotha night missions in the later timeline

[SYN_Ricky]

15 hours ago, LukeFF said:

They are there in career mode already. For MP, it should be possible to have them in Coop but definitely not in DF. 

 

Thanks for the answer, I missed the information about them being already in FC campaigns !

[LukeFF]

17 hours ago, kestrel444x500 said:

Will lone patrols ever be added to Flying Circus careers? It seems that WW1 career missions are versions of WW2 missions.

 

16 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

I'll ask and see. ?

 

Alright, so the word is that lone patrols will hopefully make it in at some point when phase 3 of the Western Front map is ready.

[Styx13]

20 hours ago, Avimimus said:

 

It would be a nice excuse to upgrade the channel map though (improved British targets, maybe hedgerows)... also, as a Canadian, Operation Jubilee is a big deal. I wonder if a third party could do that?

 

Anyway, setting aside the map details we already have a lot of the desired plane set (Fw-190A3, Bf-109F, Bf-109G2, Hurricane IIB/IIC, Spit Vb, and Spit IXc early). The gaps would be a British A-20 variant (Boston III), the Fw-190A4/U18, the Mustang Mk.I, Typhoon (early canopy) and the Do-217E.

 

So a Do-217E4 and a Mustang Mk.I collector plane are probably the biggest missing pieces. Dieppe itself is also pretty detailed. In terms of ground object a British Motor Gun Boat and a Churchill Mk. I would be the obvious gaps for Jubilee.

 

So we're surprisingly close already.

 

That said, I know it is more work than I think (it always is)...

 

Happy to hear that I am not alone in the request for a Channel Front module. Hope the devs will hear this...

 

BTW a Mk. V late modell, or a Mk. IX early, or a Typhoon Mk.Ia (etc.) can be useful in this respect. But I can accept the existing models as well if there gona be a Normandy 1941-1944 period for SP or MP. 

 

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, Styx13 said:

 

Happy to hear that I am not alone in the request for a Channel Front module. Hope the devs will hear this...

 

BTW a Mk. V late modell, or a Mk. IX early, or a Typhoon Mk.Ia (etc.) can be useful in this respect. But I can accept the existing models as well if there gona be a Normandy 1941-1944 period for SP or MP. 

 

 

It looks like we will be getting the Mk.IXc in 2024 as a Collector Plane. Of course there were only a couple squadrons of them and a couple squadrons of Typhoons in 1942 - the big air battle was mainly Hurricane II and Spit V (against Fw-190A2/A3 and a smaller number of Bf-109).

 

The Do-217E is significant, as the last massed raids in daylight by German bombers on Western Europe was made in response to the landings, and the B-17E was used to hit a couple of aerodromes... but most of the actual bombardment were Hurricane fighter-bombers with a few Bostons/A-20 flights (and a handful of Blenheims used for smoke laying). There were also Defiants and Walruses in air-sea rescue and some anti-shipping units active (Fw-190A4/U18, Ju-88/He-111)... but numerically speaking, much of the battles consists of those three fighters (Hurricane II, Spit V, Fw-190A2/3).

 

I'd still like to see a Mustang Mk.I in its recon configuration though. It'd be a cool Collector Plane, and is good for reconnaissance missions. If I recall, in the lead up to D-Day, they did a lot of missions mapping the beaches in France (including ones that weren't real candidates). One of the lessons from Dieppe was the need to have a much better idea of beach conditions prior to landing... but getting that information could also tip off the Germans as to what the candidate sites were - so pilots had to risk their lives carefully photographing much of the French coast.

 

[Styx13]

1 hour ago, Avimimus said:

 

It looks like we will be getting the Mk.IXc in 2024 as a Collector Plane. Of course there were only a couple squadrons of them and a couple squadrons of Typhoons in 1942 - the big air battle was mainly Hurricane II and Spit V (against Fw-190A2/A3 and a smaller number of Bf-109).

 

The Do-217E is significant, as the last massed raids in daylight by German bombers on Western Europe was made in response to the landings, and the B-17E was used to hit a couple of aerodromes... but most of the actual bombardment were Hurricane fighter-bombers with a few Bostons/A-20 flights (and a handful of Blenheims used for smoke laying). There were also Defiants and Walruses in air-sea rescue and some anti-shipping units active (Fw-190A4/U18, Ju-88/He-111)... but numerically speaking, much of the battles consists of those three fighters (Hurricane II, Spit V, Fw-190A2/3).

 

I'd still like to see a Mustang Mk.I in its recon configuration though. It'd be a cool Collector Plane, and is good for reconnaissance missions. If I recall, in the lead up to D-Day, they did a lot of missions mapping the beaches in France (including ones that weren't real candidates). One of the lessons from Dieppe was the need to have a much better idea of beach conditions prior to landing... but getting that information could also tip off the Germans as to what the candidate sites were - so pilots had to risk their lives carefully photographing much of the French coast.

 

Couldn't agree more! Thanks.

[Styx13]

Just two more questions to the devs:

 

- Can we hope for some improvement in the AI?

 

- Is it possible to make minor corrections in Normandy Campaign (US P-51's without Malcolm canopy and RAF sights, placeing the bombers a bit higher, RAF 56 Sqn. without Spitfires etc.)?

 

CONGRAT FOR THIS AND MANY THANKS.  

[LukeFF]

6 minutes ago, Styx13 said:

Just two more questions to the devs:

 

- Can we hope for some improvement in the AI?

 

- Is it possible to make minor corrections in Normandy Campaign (US P-51's without Malcolm canopy and RAF sights, placeing the bombers a bit higher, RAF 56 Sqn. without Spitfires etc.)?

 

CONGRAT FOR THIS AND MANY THANKS.  

 

AI improvements are being worked on all the time. 

 

The Malcolm hood's appearance is as good as it is going to be for now, since you have two nations that share the same mission codes. 

 

56 Squadron used Spitfires for a while before transitioning to Tempests. 

 

Bomber altitudes are a template issue. It's been discussed, but right now there is no plan for a change. 

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

So eum, got an escort transports mission the other day. And the C-47s circled above the target forever without dropping supplies. 

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

So eum, got an escort transports mission the other day. And the C-47s circled above the target forever without dropping supplies. 

 

Need the mission files. 

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Hi there,

the new recon missions with the Arado are really challanging under real conditions, its really nice. Are the waypoints connectet in the missions where I have to fly two parallel "strafes"? Its difficult to fly with heavy side wind, it would be nice get provided the wind datas in all altitudes.

Please remove the time limit, if not announce it in the mission briefing ?

However, these new missions are a great addition to the game ?

[LukeFF]

On 7/3/2023 at 10:07 AM, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

So eum, got an escort transports mission the other day. And the C-47s circled above the target forever without dropping supplies. 

 

On 7/3/2023 at 12:25 PM, LukeFF said:

Need the mission files. 

 

Okay, yes, there was an issue - when there is a strong crosswind the C-47s won't drop their supplies. Should be fixed in the next update. 

[Avimimus]

On 7/6/2023 at 11:46 AM, LukeFF said:

Okay, yes, there was an issue - when there is a strong crosswind the C-47s won't drop their supplies. Should be fixed in the next update. 

 

Interesting - I wonder if they'd abort IRL?

 

I liked the Soviet approach of just not putting parachutes on the supplies (and doing an ultra-low altitude drop).  It'd be cool if we could do that (although I suspect that we won't have appropriate loadouts for the Li-2). I still want cargo loadouts for the U-2VS, GAZ, and SDKFZ btw...

[FeuerFliegen]

12 hours ago, Avimimus said:

I still want cargo loadouts for the U-2VS, GAZ, and SDKFZ btw...

 

I would really appreciate having cargo loadouts for the GAZ and Sdkfz.

[Avimimus]

7 hours ago, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

I would really appreciate having cargo loadouts for the GAZ and Sdkfz.

 

Some of use would buy them... and they'd be cheap enough to produce (just remove the turrets and add a couple of 3d models), that it should be easy to turn a profit for them as Collector Vehicles.

[super-truite]

it would be great if the cargo trucks would be able to rearm / refuel / repair. It would allow to help other tanks

[Yogiflight]

On 7/16/2023 at 6:17 PM, Avimimus said:

I still want cargo loadouts for the U-2VS, GAZ, and SDKFZ btw...

 

14 hours ago, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

 

I would really appreciate having cargo loadouts for the GAZ and Sdkfz.

Then I want the SdKfz be towing a player operable 7.5cm Pak 40. It was not originally planned for the Pak 40, but it was used for it, too.

[FeuerFliegen]

On 7/17/2023 at 9:24 AM, super-truite said:

it would be great if the cargo trucks would be able to rearm / refuel / repair. It would allow to help other tanks

 

Is there any reason that couldn't be done with the mission editor, using the current AA trucks?  Maybe just force them to take no ammo?

Edited July 18, 2023 by SCG_FeuerFliegen

[kissTheSky]

Guys, the 5.104 changed my hud settings and the minimap is always small, and the info strip (the one controlled by keyboard “i”), is always on. I forgot how to permanently keep info strip off and how to force the minimap to the “full” setting. Any help?

[super-truite]

On 7/19/2023 at 1:04 AM, SCG_FeuerFliegen said:

 

Is there any reason that couldn't be done with the mission editor, using the current AA trucks?  Maybe just force them to take no ammo?

To my knowledge, the problem is that you cannot add the RRR property to player controlled object (only AI ones), so for supply trucks to be useful, they would need to add this option