Bougth the Quest Pro, Couldn't be happier (Little Review)

[chiliwili69]

On 7/8/2023 at 6:47 AM, Dagwoodyt said:

So is a Meta

It is a Meta account for the Quest Pro.

BTW, I am preparing today to Quest Pro to be returned

On 7/8/2023 at 11:54 AM, Aapje said:

I've heard September 27th as the most likely release date for the Quest 3

 

If nothing appears on the horizon by then (Deckard?) I will also try the Quest3. Perhaps confort and FOV is better.

[Aapje]

3 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

If nothing appears on the horizon by then (Deckard?) I will also try the Quest3. Perhaps confort and FOV is better.

I expect Deckard to be much more like the Apple Vision Pro, with a fairly strong processor and then focusing primarily on standalone content. Valve had big success with an APU specifically designed for the Steam Deck and I expect them to basically make Deckard a VR version of the Steam Deck. Then they will try to create an open market place for OpenXR apps, so they can earn money on that.

 

It may still be a great headset for simming, if they put a good screen in it, but you'll probably pay a lot for a processor that you won't really use all that much while tethered.

 

As for the Quest 3, they said it would have the same FOV, but more comfort. However, comfort was horrible and a aftermarket headstrap was more or less mandatory, so we'll have to see if the comfort improves with an aftermarket headstrap. The main claim by the Meta guy was that the weight was closer to your face, so there would be less torque (due to a shorter lever arm).

[Dagwoodyt]

5 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

It is a Meta account for the Quest Pro.

BTW, I am preparing today to Quest Pro to be returned

 

If nothing appears on the horizon by then (Deckard?) I will also try the Quest3. Perhaps confort and FOV is better.

My understanding had indeed been that nothing other than a Meta account is required, however there is a screen in the QP setup dialog that asks whether the user wants to set up a workplace account. If the user presses "Decline" the dialog goes back to the previous screen so that setup cannot complete. Was such a dialog part of the setup for your QP and if so how were you able to complete setup? (I am suspecting that setup dialogs may differ by country.) In discussion with a "Big Box" store rep I was told that the way to bypass the dialog would be to use a Facebook account as the "workplace" account. Of course doing that would mean having to make a Facebook account if the user doesn't already have one, require the user to accept additional TOS rules and potentially violate those rules by claiming a "workplace" that might not exist.

Edited July 10, 2023 by Dagwoodyt

[dburne]

Make no mistake - with Meta  the hardware is not the product, you are the product. The hardware is just a means to an end. It gets you connected.

I do believe they make good hardware, so nothing wrong with going that route long as you don't mind being the product.

I do not believe though they will stick with it long term, will have to see.

Edited July 10, 2023 by dburne

[chiliwili69]

17 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

however there is a screen in the QP setup dialog that asks whether the user wants to set up a workplace account. If the user presses "Decline" the dialog goes back to the previous screen so that setup cannot complete. Was such a dialog part of the setup for your QP and if so how were you able to complete setup?

No, I was not required to do that.  Don´t know exactly what you mean by "workplace account"?

 

The first thing you need to create is a Meta account, where there are several options of privacy (I choose "Solo"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2WYVNOrekM

 

And then also install Oculus app in a phone/table device to complete the setup process (This step is really weird, why is it needed??).  The Oculus app can be removed later after Quet Pro setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXecZiVtdiA

 

In any case, the best thing for anyone insterested in knowing how good is the Quest Pro, you always have those 30 days to return it if you don´t like. And meta account can be then deleted if returned.

15 hours ago, dburne said:

The hardware is just a means to an end. It gets you connected

 

Yes, all Meta stuff (free like Whatsapp or Instragram, or subsidized hardware like VR) is to grab you data and make business with that. 

Personally I prefer VR manufacturers where my data is not the product like HP, Valve, Varjo, Pimax etc. Currently (and sadly) the VR market is dominated by Meta and those standalone devices.

[chiliwili69]

18 hours ago, Aapje said:

I expect Deckard to be much more like the Apple Vision Pro, with a fairly strong processor and then focusing primarily on standalone content. Valve had big success with an APU specifically designed for the Steam Deck and I expect them to basically make Deckard a VR version of the Steam Deck. Then they will try to create an open market place for OpenXR apps, so they can earn money on that.

 

It may still be a great headset for simming, if they put a good screen in it, but you'll probably pay a lot for a processor that you won't really use all that much while tethered.

 

Yes, you are quite right. And this is what I have feared.

I would be just happy with just and Index 2 with pancacke lenses and better resolution, just only these two things.

HTC reused the design of the VivePro for VivePro2. Why Valve can not do the same and just change panels and lenses?

 

In fact Valve could release two products: The SteamDeck VR thing and then just an Index2 just for PCVR.

But yes I am just dreaming.

[dburne]

2 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

Yes, you are quite right. And this is what I have feared.

I would be just happy with just and Index 2 with pancacke lenses and better resolution, just only these two things.

HTC reused the design of the VivePro for VivePro2. Why Valve can not do the same and just change panels and lenses?

 

In fact Valve could release two products: The SteamDeck VR thing and then just an Index2 just for PCVR.

But yes I am just dreaming.

 

Just my opinion but I do not think Valve has much appetite for another PC-VR headset. 

[chiliwili69]

BTW, I am greatly impressed by the efficieny of the return process of the Quest Pro. I just made the form online and deliver the package on Monday 10th through DHL to Czec Republic, and on the 11th-Tuesday Meta deliver me back the 1199.99€ of the Ques Pro plus the 49.99€ of the Light blocker. At zero cost for me.

Good job Meta. Now let´s wait for the Quest3.

[horendus]

I have been quietly rocking a quest pro for il2 for the past few months now and can confirm its sensational and theres very little coverage of it

 

Personally I love how you can pull the magnetic side blinders off and have an open comfortable immersive stunning VR flight session.

 

I put the qPro for flight sims in the category of ‘if you know, you know’

[dburne]

1 hour ago, horendus said:

I have been quietly rocking a quest pro for il2 for the past few months now and can confirm its sensational and theres very little coverage of it

 

Personally I love how you can pull the magnetic side blinders off and have an open comfortable immersive stunning VR flight session.

 

I put the qPro for flight sims in the category of ‘if you know, you know’

 

Yes I am seeing more and more flight and race sim enthusiasts moving to Quest Pro (mainly after Meta reduced the price) and really liking it. Ironically that is not the market Meta quite had in mind for the Quest Pro, so they will probably see it as a failure. Mbucchia (Open XR Toolkit guy) already has eye tracked dynamic foveated rendering working with Quest Pro in some titles like he has with the Aero. 

 

I am not a fan of Meta at all and will stay away from their headsets, but folks interested in a good headset for flight or racing sims and have no problem doing business with Meta the Quest Pro would be a good choice. Quest Pro appears to be of great quality. Or wait and see how Quest 3 compares to Quest Pro. One can always super sample the image though.

Edited July 15, 2023 by dburne

[Thorne]

On 7/8/2023 at 5:54 AM, Aapje said:

If you are also going to use your headset standalone, then I would definitely wait for the Quest 3.

 

I'm holding off for the Q3 to replace the trusty Reverb G2 - it it gets bad reviews I'll probably go the Pro route.

[Dagwoodyt]

I tried a QP only to discover that I could not complete setup if I opted to "Decline" a "business" account. Luckily I was able to return the QP locally and received a prompt refund. It would have been more complicated had I mail ordered. Doing a "factory reset" didn't help. In doing so however I discovered how frustrating the reset process can be. Volume and power buttons are essentially flush with the headstrap bottom and problematic to locate quickly while wearing the headset. Worse was that once the reset menu presented, the cursor autoscrolled continuously and it took a while for me to find a way to make it stop scrolling so I could choose the factory reset option. Could hardly have been more frustrating if designed so by intent. How many QP's are delivered with this firmware script IDK. None of the YT videos I watched made mention of any such script. I noted on the Quest forum though some posts referencing similar script for certain Q2 headsets. Good luck if you end up getting a QP "accidentally" bearing that script.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Dagwoodyt