Foobar Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 I highly doubt that 10 dollars will be enough for a large tri-engine plane. At least 20-25 could be realistic. We will see.
Feathered_IV Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 I would definitely buy the Ju-52. If - the points earned for a round-trip supply mission were sufficiently high to make transport pilots a force to be reckoned with on the leaderboards. And... if the points awarded for shooting down a Ju-52 were 5x that of a fighter vs fighter kill. With those very same points being subtracted as a penalty from the transport pilots own accrued score. That would make the life of the transport pilot's life both dangerous and rewarding, and put them at the centre of any online mission or campaign. 2
Triad773 Posted December 10, 2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Have to say I voted *Yes,* I might pay for one if it were flyable; but if it were Ai only (which would suit me fine,) I would not pay for the add on. It was an integral part of the air war and generally think it would be a welcome target . . . I mean addition
Pollux Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I voted the first choice! I hope to buy one day and fly above the map Stalingrad.
CCG_Pips Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 This plane should be useful not only on the Stalingrad map but also on ALL fronts of Western/Eastern/North Africa batlles during the whole WWII!!! So I hope too for that plane
sturmkraehe Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) I hope the policy of making only planes if they are also flyable will be revised at some point. I personally think that making a plane flyable that will be rarely flown by people and only by a very small minority as will be the case for a transport plane such as the Ju52 does not justify the effort that has to be put into it. However, some planes are simply a must have at least as AI like transport aircraft or spotter planes. If they are not flyable there's no need to build a cockpit and imho also the FM and to some extend also the DM does not need to be as sophisticated as for a flyable plane. Edited June 17, 2014 by sturmkraehe
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I just don't see how it's supposed to work if this would be an AI only release. Will everyone who joins a mission online which has the AI Ju-52 in it, have to buy the AI-only Ju-52 then? Or should the AI plane be linked to a certain map that people would need to buy? If so, wouldn't that rule out the Ju-52 on the BoS map? It still remains to be seen how they'll handle the plane releases in BoS, but i can't imagine how AI only releases would be worth the effort, even without cockpit and a simple DM and FM. I would pay for a fully modelled, player controllable Ju-52, even though i have little interest in flying it myself. Same is true for most other planes which actually were used during the BoS in significant numbers. But i can understand that the devs have to set priorities and i have my doubts that the Ju-52 would sell as well as many other planetypes, so it will perhaps need to be bundled with other planes to make it cost efficient.
sturmkraehe Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 It has already been mentioned that the RoF scheme will not be applied to BoS. So I would not expect to purchase all additional planes one by one as with RoF.
Matt Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 No i don't expect that either. I'm guessing that planes will be released together with maps. Maybe 4-6 new planes and a new map in pack, with the option of using the new planes on the old map and vice versa (assuming you bought both BoS and the new pack). But who knows, that might actually take too long to develop.
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Maybe some of you recall a sim for the PS2, Aero Elite Combat Academy? It had a decent roster of fighters to fly, but the best part? This beast. Flying rescue missions with this was damn fun. Having Tante Ju to perform similar operations would be awesome and serve to add some really good variety to the game. Players would be pretty shocked at how nimble it is. I saw Rimowa's Ju-52 at Oshkosh in 2012 and that big ugly beast could turn on a dime, it looked awesome. A Ju-52 would be a must have for me.
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) I saw Rimowa's Ju-52 at Oshkosh in 2012 and that big ugly beast could turn on a dime, it looked awesome. A Ju-52 would be a must have for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KfjgmdPx4 You DARE to call this lovely plane ( <3 ) UGLY?? Seriously have some love for oldies I've always loved the Ju52's triple engine design and wouldn't dare to hesitate buying it once announced for BoS. Bet it needs to be released along with a special fighter or bomber as a pack since there seems to be much too less love for the "Tante Ju" out there, an addition of special strategic missions or MP objectives that could only carried with it would also be a viable solution. Edited June 24, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuk4 1
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KfjgmdPx4 You DARE to call this lovely plane ( <3 ) UGLY?? Yes.
Brano Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I hope the policy of making only planes if they are also flyable will be revised at some point. I personally think that making a plane flyable that will be rarely flown by people and only by a very small minority as will be the case for a transport plane such as the Ju52 does not justify the effort that has to be put into it. However, some planes are simply a must have at least as AI like transport aircraft or spotter planes. If they are not flyable there's no need to build a cockpit and imho also the FM and to some extend also the DM does not need to be as sophisticated as for a flyable plane. This looks like road to Mod hell old sturm turned into...
LLv44_Mprhead Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 If they make that Tunisian Campaign expansion, Ju 52 would be integral part of that too...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 If they make that Tunisian Campaign expansion, Ju 52 would be integral part of that too... I want me some Spanish Civil War. Ju-52s with sting!
Neil Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 What would be Stalingrad without Tante Ju? This aircraft has been so used , in most (if not all) of the front. I would love to fly it! There is a real need for that aircraft! 1
MarcoRossolini Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 so what's the maths? call it 300 people have voted yes, and as its a transport plane it could cost more than your standard La-5/190. So call it $25 or something... I think 777 should be able to turn a decent profit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KfjgmdPx4 You DARE to call this lovely plane ( <3 ) UGLY?? Seriously have some love for oldies I've always loved the Ju52's triple engine design and wouldn't dare to hesitate buying it once announced for BoS. Bet it needs to be released along with a special fighter or bomber as a pack since there seems to be much too less love for the "Tante Ju" out there, an addition of special strategic missions or MP objectives that could only carried with it would also be a viable solution. U-2 would be perfect for that (no, not the jet reconnaissance aircraft.) 1
Brano Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I see no problem to do kickstarter campaign.Devs must say how much money it would cost and we can preorder and see,if we can live thru.
Neil Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I see no problem to do kickstarter campaign.Devs must say how much money it would cost and we can preorder and see,if we can live thru. That is a good idea! Maybe after the release?
Duckman Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Of course I would pay for perhaps the iconic Stalingrad aircraft. Doesn't have to be flyable with 110% perfect flight model, though. I'll take a cheap (but still pretty!) Tante Ju along with some other AI essentials, like the oft-forgotten recon planes, any day. 1
Neil Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) You DARE to call this lovely plane ( <3 ) UGLY?? Seriously have some love for oldies I've always loved the Ju52's triple engine design and wouldn't dare to hesitate buying it once announced for BoS I agree with you, I always finded the junkers 52 beautiful, with the DC3 Tante Ju has its own unique charm! Edited July 20, 2014 by Neil 1
Duckman Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I hope the policy of making only planes if they are also flyable will be revised at some point. I personally think that making a plane flyable that will be rarely flown by people and only by a very small minority as will be the case for a transport plane such as the Ju52 does not justify the effort that has to be put into it. However, some planes are simply a must have at least as AI like transport aircraft or spotter planes. If they are not flyable there's no need to build a cockpit and imho also the FM and to some extend also the DM does not need to be as sophisticated as for a flyable plane. Totally agree. An AI-only plane has no cockpit (has to be a significant part of development) and can get by with simplified damage and flight models. Simplifying the flight model is not a huge loss for bombers or transports that shouldn't be flown at the edge of the envelope anyway (make them stay in formation instead, unlike Il2's bomber AI). Most important for AI bombers would be getting formation and gunner AI right.
Brano Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 There is nothing like simplified FM/DM in DN engine.All planes share the same model.It is not hard to understand it,is it?
Alan_Grey Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I JU52 and we are ready to seamlessly pay $ 25 with no problem Alan Grey 3
Neil Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I JU52 and we are ready to seamlessly pay $ 25 with no problem Alan Grey Me too and even more... Ready to support developing of this sim I think I did not paid enough for this wonderful sim which always amaze me. When I see how much dev team are dedicated and, I count less the money I give...
III/JG53Frankyboy Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Yesterday a Ju52 passed low and slow our house :D
312_Cherry Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 I see no problem to do kickstarter campaign.Devs must say how much money it would cost and we can preorder and see,if we can live thru. +1
Pollux Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 Here is a list of affected airlift aircraft. You will notice that on the 724 aircraft requisitioned for the bridge are 454 JU 52 is more than half of the fleet. The He 111 had the second most used does not exceed 200 units. Now Dev has announced will release some additional equipment (2.4, more?). So the German side (according to my source lean), he does not miss much, either: - The JU 88 A (70 aircraft) of I and II Gruppen of KG 51 respectively based Tatsinskaia and Bagerovo. - BF 110 (only 28 aircraft) of Stab and II Gruppen of GAR based respectively Tatsinskaia and Tchachty. - HS 129 (only thirty aircraft) of the 1 Sch.G based Karpovka. Hopefully they come out at least two German planes and two Russian, I would see the German side JU JU 52 and 88.
PA-Sniv Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Now Dev has announced will release some additional equipment (2.4, more?). Pollux, have I missed something? Edited September 2, 2014 by PA-Sniv
Pollux Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 [*]Le modèle commercial sera hybride entre celui de RoF (avec du contenu payant additionnel) et celui d'IL2 (avec des nouvelles releases complètes). (LOFT) [*]Les développement ultérieurs du jeu se concentreront sur des releases par théâtre (carte et avions), avec quelques avions "à la carte" (Jason) [*]Du contenu additionnel (payant) sera ajouté après la sortie initiale. (Jason) Mais rien de précis sur le nombre je reconnais.
PA-Sniv Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 A focus on theaters with a possibility of SOME aircraft sold a la cart. Well, we already have 2 "à la carte"... Really hope for more, but...
Michael_Wilhelm Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) we need her. pls put her in. maybe with paratroopers would be cool. did the 4./Fallschirm-Fla MG.Btl not fight in stalingrad? but yeah, would buy it for shure Edited September 16, 2014 by Michael_Wilhelm
LLv24_Vilppi Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 When I first heard the suggestion to add Ju52 to this game, I wasn't too thrilled to be honest. Seemed like a waste of good resources to use all the limited hours of of the 3D modellers and flight modellers for a transport plane in a WWII simulator. However, after finding the He-111 supply missions incredibly fun on the Syndicate server I have completely changed my mind; it really comes down to good mission and good team work. Now I would definitely buy and fly the Ju52. 2
Neil Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 When I first heard the suggestion to add Ju52 to this game, I wasn't too thrilled to be honest. Seemed like a waste of good resources to use all the limited hours of of the 3D modellers and flight modellers for a transport plane in a WWII simulator. However, after finding the He-111 supply missions incredibly fun on the Syndicate server I have completely changed my mind; it really comes down to good mission and good team work. Now I would definitely buy and fly the Ju52. +1, supply missions are fun and challenging! 1
Michael_Wilhelm Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 So no responce from the devs? pls don't let us stand here in the cold, tell us if it is a no, if you are discussing it, when you will be discussing it or so. A lot of games fail by not listening or responding to there community
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