How to bomb in a BF109 E7 "Jabo"

[FlyinCoffin]

I figured out this procedure: In a BF109 E7.(For vertical dive bombing):

 

-Short before arriving on target.(Speed ist 375km/h).

-Set clock to 9:30. Throttle to idle.(Altitude is 1500m)

-Cooling flaps are all closed

-Start to go down. Now trim to -x(5,6(youll never reach that number)).

-Throw the bomb when your height is below 800-500m-400m or so.

-Bomb falls on target with some luck(watch the ball(artificial horizon). -> Set clock to automatic. Trim back to 0 (use flaps if your to low) .

-(Full) throttle.Stay low and avoid flak or go high and avoid flak(depends on situation and terrain).

 

Remember to stay straight on line and dont do acrobatics when you want to hit the target the bomb might be going somewhere else you dont want to. You may also put the cooling flaps to fully closed if you having good temperatures.

 

SC50(Row bombing) bombing works a little bit different but that could be discussed later. In this thread.

 

My question is it needed to set the clock to 9:30 before the dive or could the clock(prop pitch) stay on automatic?

 

greetings pilots

 

 

Edited May 20, 2023 by FlyinCoffin

[Yogiflight]

I am currntly flying the E7 in a Moscow career. Two points from my view.

18 hours ago, FlyinCoffin said:

-Start to go down. Now trim to -x(5,6(youll never reach that number)).

I use 2° nose heavy trim. It doesn't pull the nose down too much, but is enough to easily aim down at the target

 

18 hours ago, FlyinCoffin said:

Trim back to 0 (use flaps if your to low) .

-(Full) throttle.Stay low and avoid flak

I usually stay low to keep the speed high until I am out of the dangerous AAA circle. For that I use 1-2° nose heavy trim. You will notice how much trim you need to keep it flying straight.

 

18 hours ago, FlyinCoffin said:

My question is it needed to set the clock to 9:30 before the dive or could the clock(prop pitch) stay on automatic?

I never use manual prop pitch as long as I don't really need it. Diving down with auto pitch does the job very well for me. I never had any issues with it.

 

But the most important tip is, try yourself, what is the best way to do for you. We all have different preferences, how to fly. What does the job for me, might be the exactly wrong way for you.

[FlyinCoffin]

In the manual of the bf109 e7 is written:

 

when going into a dive set the clock to 9:30.

I think its meant to that the prop pitch doesnt overrev. right?

 

Is it needed or those the automatic clock a good job overall?

 

 

-Start to go down. Now trim to -x(5,6(youll never reach that number)).

I use 2° nose heavy trim. It doesn't pull the nose down too much, but is enough to easily aim down at the target.

+2 or -2? -4 -5 -6 saves you when your to deep down. thats the idea.

 

greetings

[Yogiflight]

4 hours ago, FlyinCoffin said:

+2 or -2? -4 -5 -6 saves you when your to deep down. thats the idea.

Tailheavy trim is what the manual says and, yes it is for the recovery of the dive. The pilot had to push the stick forward through his dive and the tailheavy stabilizer trim helped him to pull up again. In game you don't need this, because the forces the pilot had to pull at the stick are not there. And it simply is much more comfortable to not have to push the stick through the dive, sitting on a chair in my room and not in a cockpit IRL.

 

4 hours ago, FlyinCoffin said:

when going into a dive set the clock to 9:30.

I think its meant to that the prop pitch doesnt overrev. right?

certainly

 

4 hours ago, FlyinCoffin said:

Is it needed or those the automatic clock a good job overall?

I never had issues with automatic pitch, maybe you get the issues when diving from higher altitude so you have more speed at the end of your dive.

But it also might be, that it is not modelled correctly in game, that the engine doesn't get the revs as high as in real life, when diving with auto prop pitch. I can only speculate on this.

[FlyinCoffin]

13 hours ago, Yogiflight said:

Tailheavy trim is what the manual says and, yes it is for the recovery of the dive. The pilot had to push the stick forward through his dive and the tailheavy stabilizer trim helped him to pull up again. In game you don't need this, because the forces the pilot had to pull at the stick are not there. And it simply is much more comfortable to not have to push the stick through the dive, sitting on a chair in my room and not in a cockpit IRL.

 

the forces are so strong? didnt know that. just thought of trimmed stabilizer as a help to get out of the dive.

 

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I never had issues with automatic pitch, maybe you get the issues when diving from higher altitude so you have more speed at the end of your dive.

But it also might be, that it is not modelled correctly in game, that the engine doesn't get the revs as high as in real life, when diving with auto prop pitch. I can only speculate on this.

 

Will we ever know what is correct modelled?

 

another question my engine was at 130°c water temp. 100°c is engine death right? (didnt wanted to open a thread)

couldnt find it with search engine.

 

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by FlyinCoffin

[Yogiflight]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:09 AM, FlyinCoffin said:

the forces are so strong? didnt know that. just thought of trimmed stabilizer as a help to get out of the dive.

The 109s are well known for having issues with pulling at high speeds. It is modelled in game in so far, that your aircraft has low response, when you pull at high speed. that way I recently rammed a P-40, when diving down and shooting at it. My 109 simply didn't response when I pulled at the stick.

On 5/23/2023 at 12:09 AM, FlyinCoffin said:

Will we ever know what is correct modelled?

I think these modellings are to some degree educated guesses.

 

On 5/23/2023 at 12:09 AM, FlyinCoffin said:

another question my engine was at 130°c water temp. 100°c is engine death right?

Max. temperature is not what is possible, but what is allowed. It doesn't mean, when you exceed it, the engine immediately dies. It is just like with the engine timers in game. If you go over the allowed time/temperature, the chance, your engine dies, rises with the time/ degrees (and time) you exceed it. I also have from time to time higher oil and/or water temperatures than allowed, while in an airfight, but usually reducing them immediately, keeps my engine(s) alive, but not always. ? happens

[FlyinCoffin]

 

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  On 5/23/2023 at 9:09 AM, FlyinCoffin said:

the forces are so strong? didnt know that. just thought of trimmed stabilizer as a help to get out of the dive.

The 109s are well known for having issues with pulling at high speeds. It is modelled in game in so far, that your aircraft has low response, when you pull at high speed. that way I recently rammed a P-40, when diving down and shooting at it. My 109 simply didn't response when I pulled at the stick.

 

Yes I know. Plane gets hard to control at speed above 700kph or something. But I did understand that in the post before you said that the force becomes to strong on the pilot to get the stick pushed back so he needs the help of the trimmed elevator to get back in flight position from the dive.

Does the stick gets to hard to pull fully back in the dive from the g-forces?

 

in german

Stimmt es das der Stick zu schwer im Sturzflug wird, die G-Kräfte wirken und der Pilot kann ihn nicht mehr vollständig zurueckziehen ?