Gamers Nexus researches 78003XD popping off

[AngleOff66]

Watch the system EXPO and SOC voltages.  Some of the safe guards do not look to exist or do not work (It is a bit too technical for me)?

 

What is interesting to me is the bios updates Edit is not guaranteed.

 

Between this, Radeon VR drivers, I have to ask, is anyone minding the store over at AMD? Though to be fair, it looks like the MB companies could have done better as well.

 

Edited May 1, 2023 by AngleOff66

[AngleOff66]

Buildzoid testing a MB and seeing some interesting results like voltage changes being ignored. 44 mins

 

[AngleOff66]

 

[AngleOff66]

12:20 shows the performance difference with expo on/off in various games. Some games lose over 10% or more.

 

As Steve said, expo is not at fault, it is the responsibility of the board maker to set safe voltages.

 

I think he is mostly mad with the use this beta bios and no warranty.

[Voyager]

Taht has been a fascinating video series. Still have to watch the 3rd one, but the take-away seems to be when AMD says "Don't over volt the X3D parts" they really mean it.

[ZachariasX]

GN is pretty daming about ASUS in particular in their most recent video. ASUS basically saying that using the highly advertised function EXPO (of any kind) then the warranty is nulll and void. Given "standard settings" cripple the 7000 series by about 20%, this makes the entire platform a moot propsition.

 

As of now, also MSI only has a beta version out (supposedly) mitigating the issue. ASUS has two beta BIOS out, both of which do actually not really mend to issue according to GN.

 

What I find most shocking is how half baked these suppoesed super premium products have become. $700 USD for a mainboard is the thing now. But testing? Nah.

[AngleOff66]

I can see the point that people are making that even GN felt that this was likely to be a fairly rare occurrence.

 

That being said, I think about people like myself who save and save and need a system to last a long time and not knowing that enabling expo etc could over time damage your components or prematurely age them.

 

Here I am looking for an entire system for 700, never mind just the board.

[Guest]

Confirms my ongoing policy of always avoiding anything AMD, even when it slowly appeared they were finally fielding Lambos against Intel's Ferraris rather than muscle-cars that were "hey, just as fast as your Ferrari, Intel, but don't expect it to go around corners as well, drivers".

[ZachariasX]

Actually, this is motherboard vendors screwing up, not AMD. The same ones that sell you stuff for Intel chips. If they add features in a way that precludes them from working properly on one product, how do you think the other product looks like?

 

We have these „rare“ occurrences basically showing us that the products in question are both flawed and overpriced, this by company policy rather than technical reasons. I am not concerned that a handful of CPU‘s blew up, but that most of their „premium products“ essentially are a scam. Premium priced, they are.