Todt_Von_Oben Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Are there any templates or skins available for the new collector plane? Or is anyone willing to make a personal skin as a DDS file for me? It would follow the same theme as my Dr1 and D7F: a black tail with green streak camo and light gray trim. Here's a pic. Edited the crosses; more like this. Edited April 30, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
jollyjack Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Been looking through the GTP files, there' s no default skins yet there it seems to start with. ADDED Just found some default skins in a camo.gtp PS i've been trying to find where and how you can adjust default pilot head position. The pilot in the game must be a little Irish Leprechaun; he needs a pillow under his ass. Edited April 30, 2023 by jollyjack 1
Todt_Von_Oben Posted April 30, 2023 Author Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Thanks. That's what I'm seeing so far, too. Not much available. Let's keep looking and stay in the loop. I'm pretty sure the SS is going to be a pretty popular skin. About your pilot seated position: I might have some answers but need to know your circumstances. Are you flying 2D with TIR or 3D in VR? What's your rig? Edited April 30, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
jollyjack Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 3080ti, just got TrackHat system 2 to work a bit .. if i have time ill try to make a basic template, but that will take time i don';t really have .. VR i tried once, but could not find my keyboard in the 'Virtual Dark". Experimenting with DCS WW2 stuff while it's still on sale. Complicated .. all that button pushing before f.i. a P47D takes off, steep learning. 1
Todt_Von_Oben Posted April 30, 2023 Author Posted April 30, 2023 Okay, I get that you're flying 2D on a monitor. I have both the Devs and Steam versions of FC and have flown both in 2D but lately I'm VR. Either way, centering the pilot's head in the cockpit was a matter of clicking the Numberpad #5 to change the position; and maybe moving my head in the direction I wanted it to go and reclicking #5 a couple times until I was happy with it. That still works for me. But a few weeks ago I was experimenting with external cockpit views in VR and somehow the VR pilot in my Devs version of FC got seated to the right, outside the cockpit! The Steam version was okay and the #5 adjustment worked fine; but nothing I tried would center the pilot in the Devs game. Took a day to figure out it had something to do with the resolution setting I had the monitor set for in the Devs copy of the game. Apparently, I changed that while experimenting with camera angles and caused the alignment problem. I looked up the proper setting for my HP G2 headset and it works fine now. I'm about as non-technical as it gets; other than the trim wheels on my CH Fighterstick, I run default settings on everything and wouldn't know how to modify it if I wanted to. That said, the #5 key and making sure I was using the right monitor resolution setting has worked for me in the past; maybe it will for you, too. Other than that, I'd say "If you see an option to restore original settings; do so." That's bailed me out more than once in the past. About the SS skin: I haven't heard back from GooseH yet but I'm thinking he'll probably have the same problem: no template yet. Will keep looking and sound off when I find something.
jollyjack Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 2d yep, usually with FC i set fixcameras (per plane editing) some 50cm above the pilot head. But now with trackhat tracking i'd like to position it in the cockpit, but some 20cm higher. Monitor resolution, i think it works best if set to 100%, and not auto in settings. PS was looking at making a template, green part layer masking went OK but getting the dirty panel lines is quite a job, expertise needed here. Wait for a template ... hopefully made by Rap or BHH? These guys need to be paid for their expertise ... Edited April 30, 2023 by jollyjack
jollyjack Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 Found this, it works: Reset your view back to default (F5) C:\IL-2 - BOS\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\LuaScripts\snapviews move or rename the aircraft file ****.svc start BOS choose plane now you will have default view inside cockpit, use keyboard keys to move sight and save with F10 . a new .svc file will be created in Luascripts\snapviews. 1
Todt_Von_Oben Posted April 30, 2023 Author Posted April 30, 2023 There ya go! I think I remember reading something about moving the position with F9 and saving with F10 and my recent problem might have had something to do with that, too. I hit the wrong button at the wrong time. But going back to defaults did seem to work. I'm probably the worst person to ask how this sim works; I still have occasional problems getting it to boot up in VR and haven't even gotten around to installing NeckSafer get. Glad you were able to get things worked out. Did a little practice in the SS last night: did some T/O&L; flew some air starts. The more I fly it the better I like it. I think I've more to learn (the engine can be sensitive) but I'm not having any real problems with it so far. It used to be that, if I wanted to turn I chose a Dr.1 and if I wanted speed I took a D7F but the SS seems an excellent blend of both. In fact, the only negative thing I can say about it is that it looks kinda funny but I'm learning to like that. No news about the skins yet but still looking. Prosit! 1
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 3, 2023 Author Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) Decided to stay with my familiar black-tail theme. Here's a crude (made with Paint and Image Expert) example of what I've come up with. I call it "Der Schwarzer Gockel" or "The Black Rooster". Now if we can only find a template for the SSD4. ? Edited May 3, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
RNAS10_Mitchell Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said: Decided to stay with my familiar black-tail theme. Here's a crude (made with Paint and Image Expert) example of what I've come up with. I call it "Der Schwarzer Gockel" or "The Black Rooster". Now if we can only find a template for the SSD4. ? My German is a little rusty, but I think "Der Schwarzer Gockel" translates to "The Black Cock a doodle dooooo". ? Edited May 3, 2023 by RNAS10_Mitchell 2
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) LOL! Ich vas just following orders from der online translator! ? I suppose there may be alternative interpretations but I ran Schwarzer Gockel back and forth through two online translators and it came up "Black Rooster" so I went with that. Then again, it's a crazy world and The Black Cock-a-doodle-doo might actually work Lemme think about it. Hmmm. Maybe shorten it to The Black Cock? To the French, he was Le Cog Noire... Yeah. Nah. Rooster it is. ? Edited May 4, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
ZachariasX Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 On 5/3/2023 at 2:42 AM, Todt_Von_Oben said: "Der Schwarzer Gockel" „Der schwarze Gockel“ No „r“ in this use case. As „Gockel“ makes the same reference to manhood in German (or southern dialects of the German language) as the „stud“ does in English, it loses something in direct translation. In French, it would be „le coq noire“.
ZachariasX Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, Todt_Von_Oben said: AI has nothing to do with intelligence, neither with grammar. 1
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) The Black Whatever… As a blacktail, the tall SSDIV rudder might suggest the plumage of a fighting cock or banty rooster: so I based my skin on that theme. Actually, Hahn is a German word for rooster and I like that better than Gockel. And since it’s a name, I’m dropping “The” and dubbing the plane simply Black Rooster or Schwarzer Hahn. Again, I used an online translator back and forth a few times and this is what I got. (pics) If we can get spelling verified by local speakers, I'd feel confident about painting it on the plane when the template becomes available. PS: I checked to make sure it doesn't mean "Hen" (henne). "Hahn"comes back as "Rooster" but even if it just meant "Chicken" that might even be better. ? PSS; Then again, the German word for "Chicken" is "Huhn." "Schwarzer Huhn?" Beware the Black Chicken! The Huhn in the Sun? LOL! I like it! ? Edited May 4, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
ZachariasX Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said: And since it’s a name, I’m dropping “The” and dubbing the plane simply Black Rooster or Schwarzer Hahn. That works and is a correct translation. You lose the double meaning of „Gockel“ though. „Der schwarze Gockel“ / „Schwarzer Gockel“ translates perfectly into „(The) Black Rooster“, regradless of what the translator says and it also includes what can actually be very German humor. I thought it one of the wittiest namings for a German crate that you came up with. Especially given the pilot would be a 20 year old back then. 1
jollyjack Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 Hi Herr Oben. Was sitting on a nice summer terrace in Greven enjoying an extended Weissenbier and American Wrap containing fried Huhn. Dunno if it was a Cock or a Chick, but i just saw the template for the Siemens is out; Has your Cocky Siemens been served yet? 1
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 29, 2023 Author Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Hey Jollyjack! We get feral roosters around here sometimes; cooked one once. Scrawny. Done all my hunting at the supermarket since then. ? Yes, I saw Wardog's update (sadly, his last for a while?) about the SSW-DIV skin template being published and so far I've seen examples by two artists: E69 Julian and Szelljr. Good stuff! I don't have that new skin yet. But GooseH did my Dr1 and D7F skins in much the same colors as I've chosen for The Black Rooster and he's said he'll take a shot at it for me. But it's only been a day now and I'm in no hurry. I haven't asked but was also thinking of a skin ala the 1969 Chevrolet SuperSport; "SS" emblems on dark metallic green with chrome trim and "black vinyl top" wing surfaces; five-spoke "American Mag" Wheels with Goodyear meats; etc. You know, kind of an Ed "Big Daddy" Roth version of a Flying Circus skin. Just fer grins. ? I've wanted to take the time to learn how to make my own skins but between getting my D7F motion platform working (and three other ongoing projects) I don't have the time to become proficient. And my needs are few. I've always said I'll pay a reasonable amount for a custom skin but every one I have has been a gift. Still, that offer stands. A great bunch, these airplane skinners. Yep! ? Edited May 30, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
jollyjack Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 If you wanna get banned merciless & forever from Il2 the only way is being paid for skins ... Not even a nice Weissenbier is permitted LoL. As far as SS, Chevy or not that's a dangerous statement by all means. Seen the Pink Floyd riot over Roger Waters' suit at the Norway tour with the hammers? https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/berlin-police-investigate-roger-waters-incitement-concert-outfit-99631644
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 29, 2023 Author Posted May 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, jollyjack said: If you wanna get banned merciless & forever from Il2 the only way is being paid for skins ... Not even a nice Weissenbier is permitted LoL. As far as SS, Chevy or not that's a dangerous statement by all means. Seen the Pink Floyd riot over Roger Waters' suit at the Norway tour with the hammers? https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/berlin-police-investigate-roger-waters-incitement-concert-outfit-99631644 Really? I had no idea it was against the rules but I guess it might fall under the category of soliciting. I don't think of it that way but if they do I'll abide by it. Offer to pay for a custom skin rescinded. Thanks for the info.
jollyjack Posted May 29, 2023 Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Messing around a bit: Edited May 29, 2023 by jollyjack
1CGS LukeFF Posted May 29, 2023 1CGS Posted May 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Todt_Von_Oben said: Really? I had no idea it was against the rules but I guess it might fall under the category of soliciting. I don't think of it that way but if they do I'll abide by it. Offer to pay for a custom skin rescinded. Thanks for the info. Correct, charging for skins is not permitted here at all.
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 29, 2023 Author Posted May 29, 2023 3 hours ago, jollyjack said: Messing around a bit: LOL! Kinda gives new meaning to the term "Dawn Patrol." Cock-a-doodle-dooooooooo!
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) Not bad. I also saw your "Free Mexican Air Force" skin. That was your first attempt? You obviously know what you're doing and have an inclination in this direction; why not take a shot at doing Todt's Black Rooster? If you're game (ouch! ?) let me know and I'll provide any pics and info you need. But it's pretty simple. Basically, I want to do a SSW-DIV like my Fokker Dr.1 Dreifacher Arger (Triple Trouble) ala GooseH: a black tail with green streak camo fuselage; neutral grey cowl and leading edges; sky blue struts and wheel covers; sky blue lower wing surfaces; diagonal green streak camo upper wing surfaces; and the old-style 1917 Maltese Cross emblems in black. Plus the rooster image on both sides of the fuselage. Here's a few reference pics showing various sides of my Dr.1 Triple Trouble and my D7FTanzt Mit Kamelen as rendered by GooseH. Whatayathink? Edited May 30, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 Looking at Julian's image: that metal cover under the gun barrels. I like how his is a seasoned metallic finish and he got me thinking of doing that but I decided to go with the green we already used on the Dr.1. Not opposed to that look at all, though; and welcome a version like that. Either way, I do like like the "grimey" effects. ?
jollyjack Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) some changes ... https://www.mediafire.com/file/dsrlpubssr8lx37/++schuckertdiv_cockadoodle_JJ.zip/file Edited May 30, 2023 by jollyjack
Todt_Von_Oben Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) Yes, that's the Maltese Cross placement I described. Are you going to help me with my skin? Edited May 31, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben
jollyjack Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) I uploaded that Maltese & mellower green version also to Halooters 2 days ago, no good? Link above! And just now this one, after editing that persistent lozenge pattern out: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ou6p004akxzp1zg/%2B_schukertD4_Pink_Floyd.zip/file Edited June 2, 2023 by jollyjack
Todt_Von_Oben Posted June 11, 2023 Author Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) GooseH (Andrew Hunt of the U.K.) and I have been working on the skin for "Schwarzer Hahn" (The Black Rooster) for weeks and finally got it finished. Here's a pic of it at Zoo's Verdun to Death map. (Kinda adds new meaning to "Getting bombed before takeoff.") ? We made and checked a total of 13 14 skins before getting it right. Now, I'm looking forward to flying and doing some Dogfight Diary stories about it. But first, I just want to take this opportunity to say what a great dude I think GooseH is. I don't know many people who would go out of their way to help others as much; and without compensation, too. Really renews my faith in people. Thank you, Andrew. I hope some day I can return your many favors. Meanwhile, I will fly your planes proudly and try not to let anybody shoot any new holes in 'em. ? S! Edited June 14, 2023 by Todt_Von_Oben 1 1
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