Fw Mains, Do you Prefer the A-8 or the A-6?

[percydanvers]

I can't make up my mind as to whether the C-3 is worth having so much extra weight. 

[Dr_Molem]

Chad A-8 or nothing.

 

Heavier than A-6 but 10 minutes of boost with 1:1 recharge time.

 

A snapshot monster when equipped with MK 108s.

[percydanvers]

5 minutes ago, Dr_Molem said:

Chad A-8 or nothing.

 

Heavier than A-6 but 10 minutes of boost with 1:1 recharge time.

 

A snapshot monster when equipped with MK 108s.

 

There's something to be said for that. If you're only going to get a brief window, you might as well pack a punch. 

[Bilbo_Baggins]

2 MK108 30mm and C3-injection are all that needs be said. In my opinion Focke-Wulf is always a hard hitter like a charging bull. Weight is not a concern.

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, Dr_Molem said:

 

 

Heavier than A-6 but 10 minutes of boost with 1:1 recharge time.

 

 

 

What's it's real life re-charge time? I forget.

 

 

 

[Luftschiff]

6 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

What's it's real life re-charge time? I forget.

 

 

 

3-6 months in a hospital in baden-württemberg 

[JG27*PapaFly]

If I have to choose between the two, it's definitely the A3 for early/mid-war and the D9 for late war.  I only fly the A8 if it's the only 190 available. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

I prefer the A-6 as a kind of happy middle ground between the early and late Anton models. The A-8 feels and is heavy and sluggish and it's like that in every sim that I've flown it in.

[E69_Z4BA]

And between A5 and A6?

[DD_Arthur]

Take the A3 every time.

[percydanvers]

32 minutes ago, E69_Z4BA said:

And between A5 and A6?

 

Those two seem very similar to me on paper, but in some indefinable way the A-6 always feels slightly better to fly. 

[JG7_X-Man]

A-7

[PatrickAWlson]

32 minutes ago, JG7_X-Man said:

A-7

 

A-9

[Jaws2002]

12 hours ago, Bilbo_Baggins said:

2 MK108 30mm and C3-injection are all that needs be said. In my opinion Focke-Wulf is always a hard hitter like a charging bull. Weight is not a concern.

 

14 hours ago, Dr_Molem said:

Chad A-8 or nothing.

 

Heavier than A-6 but 10 minutes of boost with 1:1 recharge time.

 

A snapshot monster when equipped with MK 108s.

 

 

In the old il-2 I really enjoyed the Mk108's and they made a difference but in this game I never felt the need for them.  I find the two cannons and two Mg's on the D9 as perfect balance most of the time. Between A6 and A8 i think the extra boost on the A8 is a nice added bonus.

 Between the A5 and A6,  unless I know i go against bombers, I take the A5 with the outer cannons removed.

But overall,  my favorite 190's are the A3 and the D9.

A8 is next, because it looks meaner than the older 190's.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Jaws2002

[ShamrockOneFive]

3 hours ago, E69_Z4BA said:

And between A5 and A6?

 

I'd pick the A-6 over the A-5 for basically just the one reason. The four MG151/20 in the A-6 give a flatter profile and an easier to predict shooting pattern. With the A-5, you have greater spread and less accuracy because of the significant differences between the two cannons profiles, muzzle velocity, etc. Most of the time other differences are subtle enough that it doesn't matter.

 

If I remember correctly, the A-6 does have the potential for a bigger payload for jabo ops too.

[jeanba]

4 hours ago, PatrickAWlson said:

 

A-9

A-10

I win !!!

 

Actually, F8

Edited April 28, 2023 by jeanba

[percydanvers]

1 hour ago, jeanba said:

A-10

I win !!!

 

Actually, F8

 

A very extensive Jabo package 

[Gambit21]

LOL...thread winner.

 

 

 

[RyanR]

14 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

I prefer the A-6 as a kind of happy middle ground between the early and late Anton models. The A-8 feels and is heavy and sluggish and it's like that in every sim that I've flown it in.

 

The A-8 definitely is the heaviest feeling in Great Battles, but all the 190's feel a lot more lively here than they did in in the various sims I've flown in the past 30 years.

 

One thing I noticed by accident with the A-3/5/6 is that they get surprisingly maneuverable if you leave the outboard cannons at home. It sorta wrecks the whole point of flying 190's, but it's kinda fun, and two 20mm's is relatively potent on the Eastern Front for the respective time periods.

 

The MG-131's alone are potent armament. The A-8 just shreds anything passing through the gun sight. I wish the AI was better at flying it. It's a drag in SP to take off with eight A-8's, and be the only survivor.

 

-Ryan

[Bernard_IV]

A6 if you are in hunter killer mode, A8 if you are running some ground attack.

[[CPT]Crunch]

I prefer the G-8, with nose guns removed and outboard cannons deleted, minus the center rack giving unbelievable drag.  The 20 MM roots are enough to get the job done and my hit percentages increase without the nose gun tracers present.  Mid way point to a Dora in speed and maneuverability from the base A-8.  Attach two bombs to the wings and you've a top notch survivable strike platform.  Will easily reach and hold 330 mph.

[JG5_Schuck]

Would love an A8 with bubble canopy, and lose the outer wing cannons and bomb mounts...

[JG27_Mainz]

A-8 with 75% fuel helps a lot with the weight. Part of the reason A-8 is heavier is the increased fuel capacity. I also like the A-8's boost and 30mm cannon option.

[percydanvers]

On 4/29/2023 at 9:16 PM, JG27_Mainz said:

A-8 with 75% fuel helps a lot with the weight. Part of the reason A-8 is heavier is the increased fuel capacity. I also like the A-8's boost and 30mm cannon option.

 

I've always wondered how much this factors into peoples' description of it as feeling very heavy. It undoubtedly is a lot heavier, but taking a smaller fuel load really makes it nicer to fly in my experience. 

[FeuerFliegen]

On 4/29/2023 at 10:16 PM, JG27_Mainz said:

A-8 with 75% fuel helps a lot with the weight. Part of the reason A-8 is heavier is the increased fuel capacity. I also like the A-8's boost and 30mm cannon option.

 

I never take the additional fuel that the A-8 is able to carry, but still notice the weight difference.

[CUJO_1970]

On 4/29/2023 at 3:36 PM, JG5_Schuck said:

Would love an A8 with bubble canopy, and lose the outer wing cannons and bomb mounts...

 

Man, don't get me started on this...?

 

Very common loadout historically.

[CUJO_1970]

On 4/29/2023 at 2:48 PM, [CPT]Crunch said:

I prefer the G-8, with nose guns removed and outboard cannons deleted, minus the center rack giving unbelievable drag.  The 20 MM roots are enough to get the job done and my hit percentages increase without the nose gun tracers present.  Mid way point to a Dora in speed and maneuverability from the base A-8.  Attach two bombs to the wings and you've a top notch survivable strike platform.  Will easily reach and hold 330 mph.

We really don’t have any true G-series 190s in the sim, as we have no drop tanks, even though the 1000KG version is considered a G-series.
 

At any rate - all F-series load outs should be possible to remove every single bomb rack on the aircraft as was flown historically in clean configuration, along with historic option to delete outer cannons. This includes the 1.58 ata FW190A5. 

 

The loadout restrictions placed on the FW in the sim are in no way historic. 

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, CUJO_1970 said:

The loadout restrictions placed on the FW in the sim are in no way historic. 

 

Given the very, very numerous ways the Fw 190 A-8 could be configured - fighter, fighter-bomber, attack, long-range strike, anti-tank, anti-bomber, etc. - there is just no way they were going to be able to shoehorn in every last variant into a single model. It might have been better to model the F and G series as a separate plane, but obviously, that time has passed.

[Avimimus]

I prefer the A-6 for some reason. But the F-8 has more bomb options.

 

I was surprised how much I enjoyed the A-3... enough to actually get me interested in the A-4 (which is basically an A-3 engine arrangement with some of the improvements and weapons found on the A-5 / "G-2")

  

On 4/29/2023 at 3:36 PM, JG5_Schuck said:

Would love an A8 with bubble canopy, and lose the outer wing cannons and bomb mounts...

 

Well there is still room for an A-9 (or A-8 late).

[percydanvers]

On 5/29/2023 at 8:28 PM, Avimimus said:

I prefer the A-6 for some reason. But the F-8 has more bomb options.

 

I was surprised how much I enjoyed the A-3... enough to actually get me interested in the A-4 (which is basically an A-3 engine arrangement with some of the improvements and weapons found on the A-5 / "G-2")

  

 

Well there is still room for an A-9 (or A-8 late).

 

A-3 is a fun one. It feels very light and nimble for a 190 and there's pretty much nothing in any 1942 lineup that can cope with its speed.