shambler1966 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 The longer I interact with the IL-2 Great Battles community both within the game and through platforms like this forum, the more disappointed I get. For instance. these "supposed" user created free campaigns are obviously being paid by the studio to create them. Almost every campaign requires premium collector aircraft from more than one map purchase. Or it will require the collector or premium aircraft from a completely different map. If it was about authenticity, it wouldn't require a collector aircraft from different years and different theaters of operation. They are getting paid by the studio in an effort to encourage additional purchases. It is dishonest and unethical on both the creator and studio's part. Shame on you both. There are other WWII Sim products out there that have an honest dedicated user community that have created hundreds of campaigns and thousands of missions that are all shared free of any compensation. 8 5 1
Sandmarken Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 Iv made 4 campagins and not ever even talked to the devs. I do it because i like it and do find many of the collector planes having the most interesting stories. Thats why I personaly choose them when I make campagins ? 3 1 1 4
JSOflyer69 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 The devs do it for a living,they are a business and have to make money if not things dry up and it’s an end to great battles. Certain planes I do not fly much but I will buy anyway. plots of free stuff out there ( vanders mission generator,PWCG,plus lots other stuff that’s free. so on the whole I think we are very lucky that we have people in the community that spend lots of their free time ( for the love of it ) skins by the hundreds,scripted campaigns,missions,and lots of mods. loads for single players to keep them busy 1 7
kraut1 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, shambler1966 said: The longer I interact with the IL-2 Great Battles community both within the game and through platforms like this forum, the more disappointed I get. For instance. these "supposed" user created free campaigns are obviously being paid by the studio to create them. Almost every campaign requires premium collector aircraft from more than one map purchase. Or it will require the collector or premium aircraft from a completely different map. If it was about authenticity, it wouldn't require a collector aircraft from different years and different theaters of operation. They are getting paid by the studio in an effort to encourage additional purchases. It is dishonest and unethical on both the creator and studio's part. Shame on you both. There are other WWII Sim products out there that have an honest dedicated user community that have created hundreds of campaigns and thousands of missions that are all shared free of any compensation. Hi, Sorry, I don't know if you are interested, but: beside of the campaigns / missions there are 2 campaign / mission generators available that don't require expensive addons: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/99-pat-wilson-campaign-generator/ -has a real campaign, squadron, skin management -you have just to define at first which planes and maps you have. https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/129-easy-mission-generator-by-vander/ -Easy to operate, enables you to create missions according to your individual requirements. -You have only to care for players's plane: do not select a plane that you don't have purchased and do not select "any" (means random) for player's plane. -Modding is possible: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/82489-vanders-emgv72v74-for-kuban-autumn-nth-africa-desert-beta-revison-v03-update-24-feb-2023/ https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/81021-emgv66-1940-case-yellow-case-red-bof-v03-updated-150323/ https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/82168-air-war-over-italy-4344-with-vanders-emgv72v74-v04-beta-updated/ 5
Juri_JS Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, shambler1966 said: They are getting paid by the studio in an effort to encourage additional purchases. I wish this would be the case. I didn't receive a single cent for my free downloadable campaigns, which took me hundreds of hours to build. But it's a brilliant idea, I should suggest this to the devs, this could make me a rich man. 5 1 3
JG7_X-Man Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 4 hours ago, shambler1966 said: The longer I interact with the IL-2 Great Battles community both within the game and through platforms like this forum, the more disappointed I get. For instance. these "supposed" user created free campaigns are obviously being paid by the studio to create them. Almost every campaign requires premium collector aircraft from more than one map purchase. Or it will require the collector or premium aircraft from a completely different map. If it was about authenticity, it wouldn't require a collector aircraft from different years and different theaters of operation. They are getting paid by the studio in an effort to encourage additional purchases. It is dishonest and unethical on both the creator and studio's part. Shame on you both. There are other WWII Sim products out there that have an honest dedicated user community that have created hundreds of campaigns and thousands of missions that are all shared free of any compensation. Here is the deal: shambler1966 Quote: Almost every campaign requires premium collector aircraft from more than one map purchase Yes! Most of us have supported this endeavor for a long time (this title is 20 yrs old - where have you been ) and have purchased every map and collector aircraft created. Thus, creating campaigns for aircraft most of us have makes sense. Putting content out there for people to purchase is not dishonest, this is called a business model - look it up! People go into business to make money i.e. a living. These smaller outfits like DCS/IL-2 GB/War Thunder/X-Plane have to be creative to stay afloat. This means sometimes issuing 3rd parties (contractors) to create content while the "on staff" team focuses on enhancements/bugs. If you are looking for a free experience - I'd stick with your run of the mill flight games on your smartphone - I am 100% you are paying with your personal information (...so there is no such thing as a free lunch). If you are looking for dishonest - I'd look a games that over hype concepts that people pay for - then leave them high and dry! 3
DragonDaddy Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 You are welcome to your opinions but you may be a little hasty with your conclusions. 4
Gambit21 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 7 hours ago, shambler1966 said: The longer I interact with the IL-2 Great Battles community both within the game and through platforms like this forum, the more disappointed I get. For instance. these "supposed" user created free campaigns are obviously being paid by the studio to create them. Almost every campaign requires premium collector aircraft from more than one map purchase. Or it will require the collector or premium aircraft from a completely different map. If it was about authenticity, it wouldn't require a collector aircraft from different years and different theaters of operation. They are getting paid by the studio in an effort to encourage additional purchases. It is dishonest and unethical on both the creator and studio's part. Shame on you both. There are other WWII Sim products out there that have an honest dedicated user community that have created hundreds of campaigns and thousands of missions that are all shared free of any compensation. You're either a troll, or just profoundly ignorant...or more likely both. In any case, you're 100% incorrect and I'd advise you to take this crap elsewhere. 2
1CGS LukeFF Posted March 28, 2023 1CGS Posted March 28, 2023 And we're done here. @shambler1966, please think twice before posting something like this again.
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