Possibility on Steam

[NewtonYao]

Are there possibilities of purchasing this product through Steam or Origin? Considering the convenience of purchase and activition, I perfer to have IL2 BOS with my Steam account.

[I/JG27_Zimmi]

The experiences I made with steam and CoD were predominantely negative, and I think the game will sell very well without being strapped to steam.

Edited July 28, 2013 by I/JG27_Zimmi

[ACG_Kraut]

Yeah I definitely want this on Steam, even though I would have to re-buy the premium version again, I prolly would.

 

DCS just said they are coming back to Steam, so now I'm going to have to buy every module on that all over again. Same with RoF.

 

I guess I'm just weird that if something is on Steam, I HAVE to have it there. lol

Edited July 28, 2013 by [AKA]Kraut

[71st_AH_Hooves]

I think this is a certianty.

[9./JG52Gruber]

Yes Steam is a must. Trading cards too please.

[dburne]

I could well do without Steam, I certainly don't mind it being offered there as an option, I am sure gets it more exposure,  as long as one does not have to go through Steam to buy or play it.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I love steam, keeps my games up on their hard drive and frees me up some space.

[[JG54]Vyper]

I would imagine that they'll keep their successful current system used in ROF.

 

At least I'd like to be able to choose steam or not. Ubisoft failed  in that dept as far as I'm concerned. 

[vyyye]

The experiences I made with steam and CoD were predominantely negative, and I think the game will sell very well without being strapped to steam.

Should be an option though, if only to bring in more players. I wouldn't use CoD to judge anything technical, to be fair.

[Lord_Haw-Haw]

Well I do very much hope it will be available as a boxed dvd.

As I have had also some negative experiences with steam

[Revvin]

With RoF and DCS soon to be available on Steam I'd love to see IL-2:BoS on Steam. I wouldn't judge Steam on the mess that CloD was, a lot of the frustration was with the actual game not Steam. I'd be surprised if IL-2:BoS didn't make it onto Steam some day as 1C already publishes through that service.

[dburne]

With RoF and DCS soon to be available on Steam I'd love to see IL-2:BoS on Steam. I wouldn't judge Steam on the mess that CloD was, a lot of the frustration was with the actual game not Steam. I'd be surprised if IL-2:BoS didn't make it onto Steam some day as 1C already publishes through that service.

 

Yes and 777 will be as well with ROF, so I would not be surprised at all to see it offered there. I just hope, like ROF and DCS, can be purchased/ran without going through Steam as well.

[bolox]

I also was forced to use it by a game- and I have not grown to like it.

Sure you can get round most of it's annoyances, but if a game is available with it or without it I will take without, thank you very much. In fact I now backup this game more than if it wasn't steamed

If a game is only available with steam I would seriously consider not purchasing

[Stiffmeister]

What are the issues with Steam that cause you to feel like this?

The issue of having to hand control of your purchase to an unnecessary third party program.

 

Why anybody would wish to be compelled into have this running in the background by choice is beyond my comprehension.

 

I enjoy all the benefits that a stand alone purchase affords me..not relying on the services of another program would enhance the prospects of my purchasing the game.

 

I read your previous post...happy that you enjoy Steam. But no need to try to sell it it  those of us who would rather not, as your arguments are quite puerile .

Edited August 4, 2013 by Stiffmeister

[Mogster]

All that's needed is for product keys to be interchangeable between Steam and standalone, that way people can install via whichever method they prefer.

 

Waiting for EDs DCS A10 updates to be available on Steam was a pain.

[StG2_xgitarrist]

No Steam for me. That way, games are so much easier to handle (community patches, mods, savegames).

 

I had serveral connection and update problems with steam.... that way I didnt have access to all of my multiplayergames.

 

Also i am kind of fed up with this datastorage insanity by steam,origin or NSA.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I would prefer a boxed game without any 3rd party programs like Steam or Origin. But I can live with a boxed game even it would require a program like Steam.

[Crow]

Unfortunately for the anti-Steam crowd you have to face the reality that there's very little reason for 1CGS to care about the few complainers that don't like Steam because a large percentage PC gamers like and use Steam. Any small minority on here that whines about Steam will be quickly overshadowed by the 100 people on Steam who buy the game in their place. It's really a no brainer. If 1CGS puts the game on Steam they are guaranteed to sell at least a few thousand more copies there than they would without it and the handful of people here will be more than overshadowed.

[vyyye]

Unfortunately for the anti-Steam crowd you have to face the reality that there's very little reason for 1CGS to care about the few complainers that don't like Steam

Pretty much as it's already clear it won't be forced. If a small percentile dislikes Steam as an option that doesn't really change how popular Steam is. Would be nice to have some word on if they are planning Steam support. Because Steam and non-Steam purchases are often separate the ones who would really prefer to have the game on Steam will know if they should wait or go ahead and buy it now.

[FuriousMeow]

Some programs purchased through Steam don't require Steam to be running such as ArmaII. We know BoS will not rely on Steam because the initial pre-orders are not through Steam. This means that there is a separate install outside of Steam that you would just associate your account with.

 

It works with ArmaII (I even downloaded ArmAII from Steam but never have to launch it to play it).

 

There will be options. Steam gets this title more publicity and more monies to develop further, and we get more fodder.. and the sequels of course.

Edited August 4, 2013 by FuriousMeow

[Sethos]

I'm a steam convert. I never buy physical games any more really and the only digital games I usually buy are Beta / Alpha, old games off GOG etc.

 

Steam is just way too convenient. I have a list of all my games, can install them whenever I like at full speed. I don't have to find some obscure email to locate my CD-Key, I don't have to log into some worn down website to download a client at 300 kb/s which then installs the game. I have a friends list and due to everyone I know using Steam, that has become me de facto IM solution. Games with Steamworks support meaning when I start the game I don't have to find my credentials and 25 key password just to log in INSIDE the game, my game updates itself and I have a great overview of my DLC, time played, which friends are playing it etc. 

 

I could see when some people are put off by it but I also believe a few select people are so afraid of change, clinging on to 1998 and have this crazy paranoia over Steam and Gabe Newell monitoring your every move and are planning to close your account at any second. I certainly don't get the complaint that you need a client running - One piece of light software that is the biggest digital game distribution compared to what? The 6 Million other pieces of software you have running that has their own clients and whatnot? 

 

Plus releasing a game on Steam gives you a lot of exposure - Which is positive for any publisher and developer. I think simulator developers need to embrace Steam more. It seems to be one of the few genres left that are deadly afraid of Steam. Really glad to see DCS finally getting on Steam. 

Edited August 4, 2013 by Sethos

[=RvE=Windmills]

Let's not forget the audience of millions who will see it pop up in the news feed and see it under recently released. And who knows, under the top seller list .

[gavagai]

I don't mind digital content, but I'm not a fan of Steam.  The RoF and DCS systems work fine for me without need of a middle-man.

[NewtonYao]

The issue of having to hand control of your purchase to an unnecessary third party program.

 

Why anybody would wish to be compelled into have this running in the background by choice is beyond my comprehension.

 

I enjoy all the benefits that a stand alone purchase affords me..not relying on the services of another program would enhance the prospects of my purchasing the game.

 

I read your previous post...happy that you enjoy Steam. But no need to try to sell it it  those of us who would rather not, as your arguments are quite puerile .

So, I have purchased the premium edition of BOS to proof  that my argument is just a wish.

Edited August 5, 2013 by [HAN]NewtonYao

[9./JG52Gruber]

With RoF coming to Steam I can only assume BoS will too. Only question is will we be able to activate pre-purchase keys on Steam when it does.

[LuftManu]

I hope it will be on Steam, It will be better to update, and the problems like, I cant start the game etc, its not real at all, I had only 2 Problems whit steam in my life, and were faults of my system, not from Steam, Steam manages all of your games and keep them updated (also you can set it to: No update) and its fast, you can Log in from othe computer and start dowloading... etc. its all Bonuses.

 

Also getting it on the First page will atract more views and Customers FOR SURE, Steam has Millions of Players , Trading Cards and archivements will Make it more atractive, (If you dont like them, purely, dont see at them)

 

Someone make a poll

Edited August 5, 2013 by .-RDS-.Manu_vc

[Feuerfalke]

The experiences I made with steam and CoD were predominantely negative, and I think the game will sell very well without being strapped to steam.

 

Sorry, can you be a bit more specific?

How was steam involved in the quality of CoD?

[LuftManu]

The experiences I made with steam and CoD were predominantely negative, and I think the game will sell very well without being strapped to steam.

I had too, but were faults from my Pc, like, Steam cloud enabled, etc, Now I think its a great plataform and I like it, I respect your opinion, but can you be more Expecific?

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Some programs purchased through Steam don't require Steam to be running such as ArmaII. We know BoS will not rely on Steam because the initial pre-orders are not through Steam. This means that there is a separate install outside of Steam that you would just associate your account with.

 

Thats not right at all, The keys can or would work when the Early test begins, you only need to Put the Key on Steam, and Steam will Give you the game to your account, I Bougth some Humble Bundles like this, Key--> Steam

 

Also, Boxed games from steam also have a key you need to put on your account and registrate it to Steam, So dont worry to buy the game another time, If its on Steam, Im sure it will be from the Begining, and when the game launches you can Buy it on Steam. (If its on steam after all)

Edited August 5, 2013 by .-RDS-.Manu_vc

[FuriousMeow]

Thats not right at all, The keys can or would work when the Early test begins, you only need to Put the Key on Steam, and Steam will Give you the game to your account, I Bougth some Humble Bundles like this, Key--> Steam

 

Also, Boxed games from steam also have a key you need to put on your account and registrate it to Steam, So dont worry to buy the game another time, If its on Steam, Im sure it will be from the Begining, and when the game launches you can Buy it on Steam. (If its on steam after all)

 

 

I think there is a language barrier here. We didn't purchase through Steam, so Steam is not required and can't be made to be required.

 

Boxed games from Steam(they exist?) would be from Steam/through Steam.

[LuftManu]

I think there is a language barrier here. We didn't purchase through Steam, so Steam is not required and can't be made to be required.

 

Boxed games from Steam(they exist?) would be from Steam/through Steam.

 

Yes it could be,since there is no Info that it will be on steam or not. I Dont know, but if they get steam, we will need to set the the key on the steam ,and steam will register the game to our account, Boxed games, I remember Call of Duty Modern warfare 2, or Orange Box, They have keys, same system, sumbit key to steam and Voilá!

Edited August 5, 2013 by .-RDS-.Manu_vc

[skouras]

The experiences I made with steam and CoD were predominantely negative, and I think the game will sell very well without being strapped to steam.

personally i disagree

i use steam couple of years now and i really enjoy it

[vyyye]

Yes it could be,since there is no Info that it will be on steam or not. I Dont know, but if they get steam, we will need to set the the key on the steam ,and steam will register the game to our account, Boxed games, I remember Call of Duty Modern warfare 2, or Orange Box, They have keys, same system, sumbit key to steam and Voilá!

Pretty sure you can't go ahead and say "Oh by the way, you have to install Steam/Origin/Whatever" after you've already sold your product. Else it'll definitely be grounds for a cancelled pre-order if someone is really against the idea.

[leitmotiv]

Pretty sure you can't go ahead and say "Oh by the way, you have to install Steam/Origin/Whatever" after you've already sold your product. Else it'll definitely be grounds for a cancelled pre-order if someone is really against the idea.

 

my bet is that in User Agreement is explained what they can do or not, and by pre-ordering you agree on that, but i didn't bother to read it...

 

Steam or something else i dont care its 2013 not 1993, times have changed

[dburne]

I personally cannot see a developer today, going the " steam only " route, like CloD  did.

 

And I certainly do not see anything wrong, with their product being offered also on Steam, in addition to the conventional method, for those that prefer it. I myself will not choose to go through Steam as I prefer to have my sims independent of it, as many I am sure do, but many also would prefer that it does go through Steam for them.

Now I no longer really have the need for a traditional boxed version - I have come to accept the digital download era, and most  - well I guess all really - of the software I have purchased over the last couple of years have been digital download versions.

 

And that is ok in my book - having more exposure can only help the product be more successful with the larger user base. And we , along with the developers, really need this product to be as successful as it can be.

[WIS-Redcoat]

The issue of having to hand control of your purchase to an unnecessary third party program.

 

Why anybody would wish to be compelled into have this running in the background by choice is beyond my comprehension.

 

I enjoy all the benefits that a stand alone purchase affords me..not relying on the services of another program would enhance the prospects of my purchasing the game.

 

I read your previous post...happy that you enjoy Steam. But no need to try to sell it it those of us who would rather not, as your arguments are quite puerile .

So you essentially lack any tangible reason other than its mere existence? I am not saying that isn't a reason, but with your passion on the subject one would have expected something more riveting.

 

Puerile arguments? He actually listed valid reasons not a silly one like you... And he didn't even have to resort to obscure words in doing so.

Edited August 6, 2013 by redcoat22

[Sim]

I personally cannot see a developer today, going the " steam only " route, like CloD  did.

 

Bohemia Interactive just did that recently (of ARMA fame).

 

I am not sure if that was discussed before, but Steam is basically not just a middle-man. For example, one could implement Steam Workshop to quickly publish and install user-created missions (or mods). Or use Steam Cloud to store user configuration, so re-installing the game is a breeze.

[=RvE=Windmills]

http://www.bistudio.com/english/company/developers-blog/356-arma3-steam-dev-blog

 

For people interested in Bohemia's motives for going Steam exclusive.

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Those that prefer / dont care about it going steam Far out number those that ave an issue with it.   Even if these forums have objectors.  Numbers dont lie, Bohemia is doing great and so will BoS if they go steam exclusive.  

 

Side note, Steam is saving me money too, I just Downloaded the Steam app on my phone and don't have to text my gaming buddies anymore.  I can message them on the steam app  (yes Im the last guy on earth with a limited text plan lol)

[5./JG54_Eman]

The issues about games not getting updated on steam at the same timing as they are on the "producers" home pages or auto updaters, I think it's not a steam fault, but the producers fault, which release their updates on their systems/webpages, and take ages to do it on steam.

So it's the producers fault. Many games like arma and so on are working simply great on steam. I know many of you are not used to go around with steam, and had to install it due CloD requirement.

 

In my opinion the game should be on steam, but still be steam free. And then everyone is happy =)