VR Beta of IL2 CoD

[SIA_Target]

53 minutes ago, Snowdon said:

 

 

LOL they aren't talking to anyone, they appear scared of us naughty people asking questions 

But they are talking to someone. I point to my post up top, Sat. @ 10;07, the quote from Buzzsaw was found on the ATAG forum and it was one he made FEB 14, which is a newer post on the subject of VR than anything I can find here. And of course they're ongoing multi server events are still ongoing, and being announced, with sqns. like TWC supplying their own offerings of special events.

 If you were only speaking of here, on this forum, I agree, but they are talking (OK, a little) there more than I see here. But you're right, we're probably all blacklisted and shouldn't even try to log in over there. 

[Dagwoodyt]

2 hours ago, SIA_Target said:

But they are talking to someone. I point to my post up top, Sat. @ 10;07, the quote from Buzzsaw was found on the ATAG forum and it was one he made FEB 14, which is a newer post on the subject of VR than anything I can find here. And of course they're ongoing multi server events are still ongoing, and being announced, with sqns. like TWC supplying their own offerings of special events.

 If you were only speaking of here, on this forum, I agree, but they are talking (OK, a little) there more than I see here. But you're right, we're probably all blacklisted and shouldn't even try to log in over there. 

[Enceladus828]

4 hours ago, JG27_Targ said:

Say what? ?

Considering BoN was just released it's very disingenuous to sugest the GB Dev's have been ghosting the community for the last 6 months.

There are all kinds of updates from the Dev's AND a roadmap. FC2 was just released, 5.101 major update as well. BoN released not long ago, FC3 announced...

GB Devs plate has been full for some time now and looks to be full for another year.

 

BoS was fully released on October 20 2014; BoM was announced February 13th 2015 almost 4 months later.

 

BoM was fully released on May 19th 2016; BoK was announced on September 22nd 2016, 4 months later.

 

BoK was fully released on March 14th 2018; BoBP, FC1 and TC1 were announced on November 17th 2017.

 

BoBP was fully released on November 7th 2019; BoN was announced on November 26th 2019, just over 3 weeks later.

 

All we got last week for the series moving forward is FC3 and land-based Western front WW1 planes and the Li-2 is in development. As the longest wait time for the next IL-2 GBs installment after the release of the latest one is 4 months, I would not say what I said earlier is disingenuous.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Enceladus
not disingenuous --> disingenuous

[Dagwoodyt]

3 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

BoS was fully released on October 20 2014; BoM was announced February 13th 2015 almost 4 months later.

 

BoM was fully released on May 19th 2016; BoK was announced on September 22nd 2016, 4 months later.

 

BoK was fully released on March 14th 2018; BoBP, FC1 and TC1 were announced on November 17th 2017.

 

BoBP was fully released on November 7th 2019; BoN was announced on November 26th 2019, just over 3 weeks later.

 

All we got last week for the series moving forward is FC3 and land-based Western front WW1 planes and the Li-2 is in development. As the longest wait time for the next IL-2 GBs installment after the release of the latest one is 4 months, I would not say what I said earlier is not disingenuous.

"I would not say what I said earlier is not disingenuous." nor would I?

[No.54_Reddog]

5 hours ago, Hoots said:

 

So they update their old mates' forum that has no link to the actual product (yes I know the history) and so continue to look like the amateurs that they started off as and not, in any way, like a professional developer with a product to sell. ATAG is the kiss of death for ongoing development of CLOD.

 

As I think I have said once or twice before.  TFS literally own ATAG, they bought it from the previous owner. So it very much does have a link with the product. 

 

On the other hand it's tumbleweed over there too, so it's not like we are being singled out on the naughty step, they're posting nowt, nowhere.

 

2 hours ago, Enceladus said:

BoS was fully released on October 20 2014; BoM was announced February 13th 2015 almost 4 months later.

 

BoM was fully released on May 19th 2016; BoK was announced on September 22nd 2016, 4 months later.

 

BoK was fully released on March 14th 2018; BoBP, FC1 and TC1 were announced on November 17th 2017.

 

BoBP was fully released on November 7th 2019; BoN was announced on November 26th 2019, just over 3 weeks later.

 

All we got last week for the series moving forward is FC3 and land-based Western front WW1 planes and the Li-2 is in development. As the longest wait time for the next IL-2 GBs installment after the release of the latest one is 4 months, I would not say what I said earlier is disingenuous.

 

As opposed to over here where we have an announcement announcing that an announcement may be forthcoming in hopeful circumstances which will further pre-announce an announcement. At no point does there appear to be any of this "releasing" business, that just gets in the way of the serious announcements....I admit I am not a follower of GB or BoX, but forgive me, it very much seems like in the main, they announce a thing and then deliver it, presumably in the same geological timeframe as they announced they would, and when they didn't they spoke to their customers to explain there was a delay before said delivery date came and went. At least, that's how I'd imagine a professional business went about it?

[SIA_Target]

Stand by to stand by.

[Mysticpuma]

Another update explaining why there is no update  but maybe they will be able to announce an update, apart from..."progress continues".

[Dagwoodyt]

Nothing too surprising. Just glad to have it out in the open. These challenges are magnified by part time staffing.

[66Veteran-]

now i hope for more Infos and open Beta

[Hoots]

8 hours ago, No.54_Reddog said:

 

As I think I have said once or twice before.  TFS literally own ATAG, they bought it from the previous owner. So it very much does have a link with the product. 

 

On the other hand it's tumbleweed over there too, so it's not like we are being singled out on the naughty step, they're posting nowt, nowhere.

 

 

As opposed to over here where we have an announcement announcing that an announcement may be forthcoming in hopeful circumstances which will further pre-announce an announcement. At no point does there appear to be any of this "releasing" business, that just gets in the way of the serious announcements....I admit I am not a follower of GB or BoX, but forgive me, it very much seems like in the main, they announce a thing and then deliver it, presumably in the same geological timeframe as they announced they would, and when they didn't they spoke to their customers to explain there was a delay before said delivery date came and went. At least, that's how I'd imagine a professional business went about it?

My point is that there is no link between the product and the forum. ATAG, air tactical assault group, what does that have to do with the game? I know they own it, but it’s still the forum that was used by a gaming squad not a publishers site. 

[Art-J]

9 hours ago, No.54_Reddog said:

As opposed to over here where we have an announcement announcing that an announcement may be forthcoming in hopeful circumstances which will further pre-announce an announcement. At no point does there appear to be any of this "releasing" business, that just gets in the way of the serious announcements....I admit I am not a follower of GB or BoX, but forgive me, it very much seems like in the main, they announce a thing and then deliver it, presumably in the same geological timeframe as they announced they would, and when they didn't they spoke to their customers to explain there was a delay before said delivery date came and went. At least, that's how I'd imagine a professional business went about it?

Well, truth to be told, once Jason Left, things on GB/BoX side went "Russians being Russians" way. Meaning - since the new management podcast last November hinted new great project would be annonced "soon", there's been not a single word posted anywhere, plus, regular developer diaries are gone as well. Moreover, release estimates are now "narrowed down" to full years rather than months ;). Granted, there was a lot of Flying-Circus roadmap stuff posted last week, but all of it is going to be made by a third party, which is not really known for building stuff on time (to put it mildly), so it's anyone's guess when new content is going to be released.

 

To sum it up, 1CGS might be a little bit more "transparent" to its customers than TFS nowadays, but the former seems to be repidly adopting business practices of the latter, not the other way around ;). Better get used to that, no matter which Il-2 incarnation you plan to play.

[BlitzPig_Bill_Kelso]

12 hours ago, Enceladus said:

BoS was fully released on October 20 2014; BoM was announced February 13th 2015 almost 4 months later.

 

BoM was fully released on May 19th 2016; BoK was announced on September 22nd 2016, 4 months later.

 

BoK was fully released on March 14th 2018; BoBP, FC1 and TC1 were announced on November 17th 2017.

 

BoBP was fully released on November 7th 2019; BoN was announced on November 26th 2019, just over 3 weeks later.

 

All we got last week for the series moving forward is FC3 and land-based Western front WW1 planes and the Li-2 is in development. As the longest wait time for the next IL-2 GBs installment after the release of the latest one is 4 months, I would not say what I said earlier is disingenuous.

Sure it is,

Suggesting that GB Dev’s have not communicated with the community in over 6 months is simply not true. It’s gaslighting plain and simple. 

[Dagwoodyt]

1 hour ago, JG27_Targ said:

Sure it is,

Suggesting that GB Dev’s have not communicated with the community in over 6 months is simply not true. It’s gaslighting plain and simple. 

I wonder in whose interest it might be to reflexively churn out similar rationalizations as to why TFS should never be expected to furnish advertised enhancements to a state in which they can be accessed by paying customers.

[Cybermat47]

On 4/4/2023 at 4:27 PM, Mysticpuma said:

 

So......10 days later........ 

 

On 4/5/2023 at 12:05 AM, Jack_Daniels1983 said:

 

Not aged very well.

 

 

[Gunfreak]

2 hours ago, Snowdon said:

 

 

DUDES AN ARSE, no info same old... 

 

its a masterclass in pointless waffle that they've already said

People have been complaining for months about radio silence. Now the silence is broken with an explanation of the silence (tho it was quite obvious) it even showed the first pic of the Fw190. 

[Dagwoodyt]

3 hours ago, Cybermat47 said:

 

 

 

Thanks for your help!

[Cybermat47]

New work in progress TruSky screenshots: 

 

[Dagwoodyt]

2 minutes ago, Cybermat47 said:

New work in progress TruSky screenshots: 

 

So do all "private" beta participants have 24/7 access to the VR server or is the server only available during active testing sessions?

[Gunfreak]

27 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

So do all "private" beta participants have 24/7 access to the VR server or is the server only available during active testing sessions?

 

When you have vr beta access, yo6 have the beta vr beta version of the game. And you can play and test as much as you want.

There is a beta online server running too, but I don't think anyone actually uses it.

[Mysticpuma]

1 hour ago, Gunfreak said:

 

When you have vr beta access, yo6 have the beta vr beta version of the game. And you can play and test as much as you want.

There is a beta online server running too, but I don't think anyone actually uses it.

Just out of interest,  has there ever been a server event in VR where the beta testers all meet up and play. Maybe 40-50 VR Beta testers online)? I assume '2D' players can fly on the VR server but has there ever been an 'event' for the beta testers to stress test a server?

[Gunfreak]

Just now, Mysticpuma said:

Just out of interest,  has there ever been a server event in VR where the beta testers all meet up and play. Maybe 40-50 VR Beta testers online)? I assume '2D' players can fly on the VR server but has there ever been an 'event' for the beta testers to stress test a server?

No, getting an event going with a player base of 40-50 isn’t easy. Even with hundreds or thousands of players getting 40 of them to have time to fly together isn’t easy. 40 is just too low a number to get something like that going. Personally, my schedule makes it more or less impossible to take part in any organised online play. So I'm a single player only guy in Clod, il2 and dcs.

[354thFG_Leifr]

I thought there were thousands of players waiting to get in to Cliffs with their VR sets? ?

[No.54_Reddog]

1 hour ago, Gunfreak said:

No, getting an event going with a player base of 40-50 isn’t easy. Even with hundreds or thousands of players getting 40 of them to have time to fly together isn’t easy. 40 is just too low a number to get something like that going. Personally, my schedule makes it more or less impossible to take part in any organised online play. So I'm a single player only guy in Clod, il2 and dcs.

 

With hundreds and hundreds of registered beta testers (who presumably registered out of public spirited eagerness to help test and not simply to get early access) it surely cannot be beyond the wit of man to get 40 odd of them to play together the latest patch showing all the great progress Buzzsaw just posted had been happening while some of us bitched and moaned.

[Dagwoodyt]

Why is it that "private" beta applicants cannot be processed and freely access the VR beta server when there is no active test being run? If they cannot be processed until an active test is being run it seems that would be precisely the time when there is too much happening for processing to take place.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Dagwoodyt