Developer Diary 338 discussion, Wings over Caen

[sevenless]

5 hours ago, Mysticpuma said:

Any news on this? 

[danielprates]

CAEN and CANNES sound the same in french isn't it? I feel there is possibly a pythonesque joke to be written here, somehow. No time to lose!

[PB0_Roll]

Nope, they don't sound same at all.

 

Caen sounds same as can in canteen.

 

Cannes sounds same as can in I can.

I appreciate good news about new campaign, thanks a bunch !

 

Now awaiting news on completion of FC2, still expected in february ?

[tvcasualty]

VERY EXCITED for this one!! And it's FREE!! Ever since I read "The Big Show" can't wait!
Scripted campaigns in VR make this experience come alive!

[Noisemaker]

3 hours ago, HankCzinaski said:

Caen-Caen Dance?

Bingo, we have a winner.

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[Beazil]

My buddy's father was part of the ground crew for Typhoons.  I wonder if he was part of these operations.  I'll have to ask him.  Cool beans!  Thanks for the update and the free campaign!

[Guest deleted@219798]

What's happening with Flying Circus, if anything?

[Irishratticus72]

13 hours ago, Noisemaker said:

Bingo, we have a winner.

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PELICAN!

[Avimimus]

On 2/2/2023 at 8:20 PM, Enceladus said:

I hope it's the MC.200 or I-153

 

It's actually Digital Forms which will decide to pursue it. I hope they do -- Falaise Pocket would be nice and they don't really have to worry about making the map, or the Battle of the Bulge. Another option could be a Tank battle but there are 6 or 8 playable tanks in the installment in case TC1 was scarcely profitable which I hope wasn't. 

 

Thank you!

 

(I also agree - although MC.200 and an Italian Trimotor for Desert Wings, and I-153 for Great Battles would be my preference... MC.200 would fit with Moscow - but it is more needed for Desert Wings).

[Bonnot]

On 2/4/2023 at 1:15 AM, Noisemaker said:

Bingo, we have a winner.

Although Caen is a Victory in the end, it is first a fiasco with losses and destructions on a scale difficult to understand now......

First, an objective for DDay +1, it suffered almost 2 months of ground combat, artillery shelling and above all a Heavy Bombers raid ( and many lesser ...) which left the town destroyed 75%, thousand civilians dead , much more wounded and ruins  impossible to cross to advance;

The population was well aware that the RAF was fighting german to bring peace but ... they found the method disputable at least !

An opinion often expressed -usually low voice an unofficial - from France, to Belgian, to Netherland where it was said " our country shall never again be able to suffer another victory of Montgomery"......

I'm sorry to put a bitter drop in the CanCan Champagne but sometime it is something to remember, even in warGaming.....

[Bonnot]

PS : I'd been living (and studied in Caen University) some 20 years after , some scares were still visible and 20th anniversary was a strange mix of pride and sadness, of gratitude and reserved feelings from many of the participants- even moving for a younger foreigner ........

[Noisemaker]

1 hour ago, Bonnot said:

Although Caen is a Victory in the end, it is first a fiasco with losses and destructions on a scale difficult to understand now......

First, an objective for DDay +1, it suffered almost 2 months of ground combat, artillery shelling and above all a Heavy Bombers raid ( and many lesser ...) which left the town destroyed 75%, thousand civilians dead , much more wounded and ruins  impossible to cross to advance;

The population was well aware that the RAF was fighting german to bring peace but ... they found the method disputable at least !

An opinion often expressed -usually low voice an unofficial - from France, to Belgian, to Netherland where it was said " our country shall never again be able to suffer another victory of Montgomery"......

I'm sorry to put a bitter drop in the CanCan Champagne but sometime it is something to remember, even in warGaming.....

 

[BlackSix]

1 hour ago, Bonnot said:

Although Caen is a Victory in the end, it is first a fiasco with losses and destructions on a scale difficult to understand now......

First, an objective for DDay +1, it suffered almost 2 months of ground combat, artillery shelling and above all a Heavy Bombers raid ( and many lesser ...) which left the town destroyed 75%, thousand civilians dead , much more wounded and ruins  impossible to cross to advance;

The population was well aware that the RAF was fighting german to bring peace but ... they found the method disputable at least !

An opinion often expressed -usually low voice an unofficial - from France, to Belgian, to Netherland where it was said " our country shall never again be able to suffer another victory of Montgomery"......

I'm sorry to put a bitter drop in the CanCan Champagne but sometime it is something to remember, even in warGaming.....

The destruction of Caen was a huge tragedy for its inhabitants and I've given it quite a lot of space in the briefings and you'll see how the city will change after the bombing on July 7th. This screenshot from the announcement shows the morning of July 8th:

[Bonnot]

Thanks @BlackSix,

The Typhoon were probably the most accurate air to ground weapon and the less destructive for the civilians......In this case, german artillery was also responsible for a large part of destructions.

The real shock came from the Heavies : RAF here and USAF in other locations.  Postwar controversy were often harsh and did nothing to help, all we can do is probably to be fair in exposing situation and keep memory alive by all means, as such wargaming is often an excellent media to teach some History or just refresh memory.   ?‍?

 

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

On 2/8/2023 at 3:45 AM, Noisemaker said:

 

Well the united states did give money to France and Germany to rebuild..

 

Not thankful enough in my opinion, these days they seem to forget what happen.

 

Hence why some want to forget history. But history not remember is a tragedy waiting to repeat.

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by 71st_AH_Mastiff

[Tenwal]

History , do you remember the history of General Motors in Europe?

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

3 hours ago, Tenwal said:

History , do you remember the history of General Motors in Europe?

I remember the history of Ford beating Ferrari!!! 

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by 71st_AH_Mastiff

[Jaegermeister]

On 2/3/2023 at 4:28 PM, sevenless said:

 

Not the right thread for this, but sooner than you think...

[DBFlyguy]

1 hour ago, Jaegermeister said:

 

Not the right thread for this, but sooner than you think...

Well, it was originally projected as "coming later this summer"....of 2022 so, I'm not sure if "sooner than you think" is really valid ?

 

But definitely looking forward to finally getting a new scripted USAAF campaign, "better late than never" ?

Edited February 11, 2023 by DBFlyguy

[Trooper117]

A week after this DD and only 2 pages of comments... hmmm.

[Lusekofte]

Well for what it’s worth. This campaign will make me fly GB again. 
Scripted campaigns make this game shine 

[AH_Col_Hogan]

Will we get U.S. tanks and crews?

[Bonnot]

.....and a large choice of Infantry from Rangers to Engineers with Mine detectors and Flame Trowers, backed by Bazooka Teams  ?

[sevenless]

On 2/11/2023 at 5:08 AM, Jaegermeister said:

 

Not the right thread for this, but sooner than you think...

 

Good to know. Can´t wait. ?

[Matsy_fr]

Any news of the campaign? Can't wait for it! Reading at the moment the book by the belgian Typhoon pilot Charles Demoulin," Mes oiseaux de deux"("My birds of fire") who was in flight school with Pierre Clostermann and ended up commanding his squadron, 609 if I remember correctly.

 

I was gonna do a career on nomrandy with the tyffie but I'm waiting for the campaign!

[Wardog5711]

It is scheduled for the upcoming update.