Power limitations on Luftwaffe fighters

[greybeard_52]

Did Luftwaffe fighter pilots really fight like this? And that is, starting the stopwatch when they gave full throttle and then keeping an eye on it during the dogfight, and then reducing the throttle just before a minute had elapsed? And what did they do when they no longer had all the power? Did they abandon the fight? Or did they calibrate themselves at 1.30 ata being careful not to exceed them, even if they had a Russian (who did not have these limitations) on their heels?
To me it feels like wrestling with your hands tied behind your back! If you really want to model this limitation (which seemed more like a recommendation to me) I think you could do it like in Cliffs of Dover, introducing an automatic timer.
You will also tell me:<<But why don't you choose the Normal setting?>>. It is true! I've done it too, but it doesn't relieve you from having uncontrollable power swings during combat; and then I love fiddling with the most realistic setting...
May I propose to the developers to reconsider this situation?

[JG27*PapaFly]

2 hours ago, greybeard_52 said:

Did Luftwaffe fighter pilots really fight like this? And that is, starting the stopwatch when they gave full throttle and then keeping an eye on it during the dogfight, and then reducing the throttle just before a minute had elapsed?

Precisely! That's why they wore really huge watches. It was the same thing on the allied side.  Whoever ran out of WEP / ATA / BOOST / JUICE first communicated so over the common channel. The accepted norm was to call TIMER, TIMER, TIMER. Then the fight was instantly called off, and everybody flew home for an engine overhaul.

 

In fact,  the main driver behind the development of HUDs was to project the engine timer where the pilots could see it without having to raise their throttle hand or stare down at it.

 

This goes on and on.  The first words spoken by the notorious so-called "bitchin Betty", the acoustic warning system in modem planes, which jet pilots around the globe love and hate at the same time,  were "WARNING! TIMER!".

 

We can conclude that engine timers have not only saved countless engines from catastrophic failure, but have been true innovation catalysts.

 

Kidding aside, the engine timer "feature" is quite frustrating.

Edited January 30, 2023 by JG27_PapaFly

[Rei-sen]

59 minutes ago, JG27_PapaFly said:

the engine timer "feature" is quite frustrating.

It is absolutely idiotic feature.

I saw dev's stream the other day, where they bragged (among other things) about how advanced their engine model is, I was laughing all along. Dudes, you literally have engine timers, so what's the point of all that fancy mathematical model then?

[the_emperor]

23 minutes ago, Arthur-A said:

advanced their engine model is

 at its current state, I wouldnt say that the engine model is very advanced but rather simple as you can do stuff like this with impunity:

 

In real life those time limits are in place to give the engine a reasonable service life, e.g. the P-51 is allowed to accumulate a total of 5 hours of WEP before tear down inspection.

And those time limits in the game are a kind of way to "simulate" that. Which is a bit questionable since we always have a brand new up to specs airframe/engine every time we take off. We have no way of telling how much WEP is used up or recovered. Recovering times for WEP are still a mystery across all planes.

That why an option to turn off that timer could be an easy solution for us in SP as well as in MP:

 

[Rei-sen]

10 minutes ago, the_emperor said:

at its current state, I wouldnt say that the engine model is very advanced but rather simple as you can do stuff like this with impunity

Ah, yes, I totally forgot about reducing RPM to the minimum and slamming the throttle to the max without destroying the engine.

[JG27*PapaFly]

31 minutes ago, the_emperor said:

We have no way of telling how much WEP is used up or recovered. Recovering times for WEP are still a mystery across all planes.

That's the engine roulette feature ?

[gimpy117]

is someone gonna tell him about the P-40?