Is it Good at This Time?

[mspyker13]

I wish the devs would bring the old free tanks up to the standard of those in COP to actually invoke new players and let them actually try out the mechanics... The AI seems to be dog**** based on the few quick missions i have done with the base tanks... Im still on the edge of purchasing it and don't know if it's worth buying at this time? Please provide any insight in the most unbiased way possible... Thanks ?

[Bonnot]

6 hours ago, mspyker13 said:

Please provide any insight in the most unbiased way possible...

Well, you know : the more fools we are, etc...., then there is the Charity donation to IL, nice..., then your taste/need for a good game of Tanks !

I was, like you, dubious after watching the free QM, then there was a bargain sale (50% ?) and with addition of the Flak  it was ok for trying.

Honestly, I had some interesting hours when discovering the stuff ( solo, QM, AQm ), records some actions, take Pics, Forum ........

At a time it was considered that a game worth a $/per hour played with pleasure was fair.....So to me it is fair now: but to say I enjoyed all what I imagined  ????

 

To sum up : TC as the good basis to be a good TANK  GAME but it is still a Combat Flight Sim first !

If  the devs decide to give TC the time and care it desserves It has much potential in Graphics and numerous active fans to support it.

Now it is a 50/50 % Full/empty bottle : your optimistic -or not- perception;   

( My personnal opinion, hope it helped )

[mspyker13]

I appreciate it. Would love to see it developed more... going to wait until it's on sale again! I'm new here and have to say this is probably one of the best and nicest communities in all of gaming. 

[ShampooX]

I've said this before but will say again.  The online, PvP potential of this game, for tanking,  is off the charts - but I don't think the Devs understand this yet - and may never.  The single player mode still leaves much to be desired, but the local mission planning player-community is doing some really cool stuff on par with anything 1C has done.  So if you are looking for an alternative to War Thunder/World of Tanks you will spend your money wisely; here vs. there.

 

PhlyDaily recently posted a Youtube video on Gunner Heat which got the normal huge views....so that Marketing ship is sailing right by 1C and off over the horizon, which is kind of sad to see.  Not a single comment on TC in the comment section, either.  I'm sure Phly's GHPC video gained them a significant spike in new orders that day/week.  So we're still a well kept secret for now, which has it's benefits.

 

All of us are frustrated by the unrealized potential of the game -but overall I'm happy I spent my money on it.  Just my 2 cents.

Edited January 20, 2023 by ShampooActual

[mspyker13]

I have never and will never play WoT or WT... I did see posts elsewhere about this subject. Apologies if i frustrated anybody in asking a question that has been asked a billion times, but most of said posts were from 2019-2020 and I wondered if anything has changed. People waiting for it to go on sale is part of the problem, I may buy it now just to support the team ?

[ShampooX]

Not at all bro - we welcome the questions and always need new Tankers on the PvP servers.  See you out there one day!

[wolfbojan189]

Is not worth full price,i buy it on winter sale. Ai is not great,shot thru the trees..etc.

graphic effect can be better.

Online only one server,missions are i dont know limited for single player.

don't get me wrong but it need improvements.

It is still fun,i like it..but Is not worth full price.

I got all dlc..but it need more tank options for allies...i think they own us some tanks for free.. for both sides.

Hope devs become like il2 crew-more iformation,more updates,more communication..

 

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, wolfbojan189 said:

i think they own us some tanks for free.. for both sides.

 

Do you work for free? 

[wolfbojan189]

Im 42year old..i work hard,i just say its missing some continent..or some more love.

Look il2 bos i buy it when come out..i think there was 6 or less planes,but even then you know every plane have advantages..lower speed,better armment,firepower..etc.

And I buy all maps..dlc to support them,they care about community thinking...etc

In tank crew tiger is not tiger..sherman tank destroy you from 1km or more with front side to fire..tiger was a beast.

And i know history well..ww2 battles,tanks,planes. Hope they get better.

[Bonnot]

14 hours ago, mspyker13 said:

but most of said posts were from 2019-2020 and I wondered if anything has changed. People waiting for it to go on sale is part of the problem, I may buy it now just to support the team

Unfortunately it didn't changed so much -at least in philosophy- but add some nice  items...mostly AI !

The question of supporting the team is to give them the feeling they are doing right , when you ( I ) think they are doing wrong ....specially in the choice of a OstFront only game,  with just AI accessories and TWO  West tanks - but with Soviet crews and Red Star .

A one-legged game which is honestly paid 50%.........

 

[CIPPOZ]

for me as a ww2 tank simulator it is the best, but it depends on how much you like the "ww2" story and if like me you are in love with German tanks and their camouflage, because this choice is also beautiful, a brilliant idea! I personally recommend it to you if you are passionate, there is none better around. Problems? yes !! I break balls a lot, mhà I'm 52, I can. I'm joking....the guys have already told you everything, for me it's worth it and then there are so many fabulous single player missions and campaigns that you can download, we are here to help in our small way, see you!! hi

[Frinik22]

Tank Crew is worth buying but not at $ 79.99. I bought it at half price which i think is a fair price given the limited amount of content it has. Graphically it's a pretty game but no more there's no wow factor. the tanks/spgs interiors are well modelled and very faithful to the originals. The AI animationas are hit an dmiss, nice inside the tanks but unconvincing outside of them . I wish the wetaher effects were more immersive. The particle and sfx are Ok but much improved than ks to JSOFlyer's effects mods which improve them greatly. The lack of infantry and combined arms warfare spoils it for me. The sounds are excellenrt but the game lacks detonations and explosion sounds to make the battle livelier.The quickl mission editor is great but limited in scope. Everything is monetized so if you want to play on different maps you need to buy costly addons. Updates are infrequent and rarely bring new content unless it's for a fee. All in all TC feels like an after thought. I feel like the Devs decided  "Let's create an armour sim to complement our air sim  " type-of-thinking in my opinion. So it's never going to get their full love and attention.

[LukeFF]

On 1/21/2023 at 12:58 AM, wolfbojan189 said:

Im 42year old..i work hard,i just say its missing some continent..or some more love.

Look il2 bos i buy it when come out..i think there was 6 or less planes,but even then you know every plane have advantages..lower speed,better armment,firepower..etc.

And I buy all maps..dlc to support them,they care about community thinking...etc

In tank crew tiger is not tiger..sherman tank destroy you from 1km or more with front side to fire..tiger was a beast.

And i know history well..ww2 battles,tanks,planes. Hope they get better.

 

Okay, that's all great, but it still doesn't answer the basic question: do you want them to do all the work that goes into creating a new vehicle, testing it, fixing problems based on what testing finds and then release it to the public for free? That's just not going to happen.

[ShampooX]

Well to be fair, not much happens when you pay either.  I bought all the vehicles, bought additional maps that I don't really need because I just PvP, thinking "hey I'm helping with the development of the game."  But it's clear that aside from 4 new vehicles in two years, not much attention is being paid to most of the important bug fixes, requests for more skins, missions, etc etc.  So free?  No.  I totally agree.  But after two years in this game, it's pretty clear that this is somebody's part time job, at best.

Edited January 23, 2023 by ShampooActual

[Redwo1f]

Just a quick question --- isn't Tank Crew almost entirely a third-party endeavor? (meaning the il2 GBS crew has very little to do with it)

[wolfbojan189]

luke not much happens when you pay either. Yes a third-party

maybe its time devs look this..it is old..maybe they get ideas

 

[mspyker13]

 

On 1/20/2023 at 11:34 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Do you work for free? 

Really hope I didn't sound like that guy with my comment and really didn't want this to drag down to that realm of negative thought. I (we) really enjoy the game and know the dev team is tiny. Performance is good and the flying feels amazing, that's all that matters in this day and age. Just felt as if they improved the free tanks to the level of the DLC, (albeit even at a small price like maybe 10USD) It may attract a bunch new players in a more efficient manner... No random is gonna go out and spend 80 bucks on something they don't have an actual taste for. They definitely could market better, selling more of your product to us players could in theory enact the ability for lower prices and more content being produced. That being said, the loyal members of this fanbase such as myself and you (thank you for dedicating time to testing!) are all really grateful to even have an experience like this.

Edited January 23, 2023 by mspyker13
Still getting used to this forum :)

[Wardog5711]

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Just a quick question --- isn't Tank Crew almost entirely a third-party endeavor? (meaning the il2 GBS crew has very little to do with it)

 

The short answer is 'sort of'.

The 3d models are created by Digital Forms and the ballistics, physics, etc. are developed and integrated by 1cgs.

For any of you who have worked in the business world, sub-contracting is common. And in some industries like the last one I worked in (telecom construction), necessary. There was no way to keep all of the skilled trades needed on the payroll all the time. 

The upside is that you can concentrate on what you do best in-house and let others do what they do best and deliver it to you for final integration and sale to the customer.

The downsides can be longer lead times, and often higher end cost. Everyone involved has to get paid and make money at the same time.

As Luke said, nobody works for free. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Duckman]

I've only dipped my toes in it, but my impressions so far are mixed albeit mostly positive.

 

On the plus side it's a really cool game with tanks, and there aren't many of those around except for the arcade variety. The feeling of being inside a primitive steel box is excellent (the T-34 is utterly basic, a real tool of war) and the "aha" moments when you realise e.g. that the commander and gunner in the T-34 are the same person are priceless. For me experiencing what you've read about is a big reason why I play games.

 

On the minus side it feels less finished and polished than the flight games. A poor cousin, sort of. The lack of infantry is also a minus and makes it feel a bit barren.

 

Overall it gets a thumbs up, though partly on potential.

Edited January 26, 2023 by Duckman

[ShampooX]

@Duckman You are exactly right, but  have you tried the Finnish Virtual Pilots or Advnace And Secure PVP servers yet?  Under Dogfights.  It'll be a steep learning curve but I think you will best see the true potential of the game there.

[Duckman]

14 hours ago, ShampooActual said:

@Duckman You are exactly right, but  have you tried the Finnish Virtual Pilots or Advnace And Secure PVP servers yet?  Under Dogfights.  It'll be a steep learning curve but I think you will best see the true potential of the game there.

 

No, haven't tried those yet. Thanks for the tip!

Edited January 26, 2023 by Duckman

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

Is it good at this Time?

 

Never more immersive than right here:

 

[Thad]

On 1/21/2023 at 9:13 PM, Frinik22 said:

All in all TC feels like an after thought. I feel like the Devs decided  "Let's create an armour sim to complement our air sim  " type-of-thinking in my opinion. So it's never going to get their full love and attention.

Salutations,

 

Incorrect... TC was not an afterthought. You are obvious new here so you wouldn't know but years ago the developers added a couple tanks to mess around with on their limited down time. These were included in the Flight Sim. Eventually, players (like me) discovered them and started messing around with them. They were fun. Later myself and many others started making missions for the the tanks and pleading for more tanks to be added to the game. Proving that the developers listened to their players they decided to add more tanks and support for them. This eventually led to the creation and addition of Tank Crew. Much to my joy.?

 

This game is primarily a WWII Flight Simulation and always will be.... so I have to agree that TC is never going to get their full love and attention as us tankers desire. But, advances are being made in TC and I continue to believe that more are forthcoming.

 

Hey, check out one my tank missions "BTL Tiger At The Gate". It has received some good reviews.

Edited January 30, 2023 by Thad

[SCG_Neun]

The single player interface is just not fun in TC, but missions like Tips where you follow the action and don't neccessarily lead it, proves that TC can be very immersive as a SP option.  

[CIPPOZ]

Hi, personally, for a month now I've only been using the singleplayer, because as I think you all know, after a lot of work and a lot of passion, pack 231 has been released which is ? fantastic, which includes many campaigns, and many missions, really done well, in addition there is our forum where you can find many missions and also excellent campaigns, and then there are many skins, one more beautiful than the other and also mods that improve various aspects of the game, including grass, sky, le shadows and lights, and above all the smoke and various explosions, see if I remember correctly tank effect version 12b, I take this opportunity to thank all these wonderful people, thank you! this is to say that multiplayer is nice, but you have to have a lot of time to disposal, because it happens that you spend an hour wandering around the map and you don't find a living soul, and with planes there is no defense and they almost always kill you without having fired a shot, it's not that I enjoy it very much!! anyway go to taste the game deserves , I bought everything, and believe me if I tell you that I don't have any money, but I've been waiting for a game like this since panzer elite, and then tank squad will come out in a while, which seems perfect,....We'll see! !

[MajorMagee]

If only getting Pack 231 didn't involve going through a prohibited web page.

[moustache]

On 2/2/2023 at 2:52 AM, MajorMagee said:

If only getting Pack 231 didn't involve going through a prohibited web page.

a prohibited website? are you sure you have arrived at the right site? it's a completely normal site, a French "facebook" from the early 2000s... or do you live in North Korea?

[Frinik22]

It could simply be dear Microsoft defender going nuts over a site it  considers dodgy or your AV? I confirm. The webpage is perfectly normal. but I know from experience that if you use Edge , MS Defender is on steroids and creates many false positives. 

[jollyjack]

i disabled defender and it's firewall, Tinywall and Avast now instead; much easier for behavior tuning.

[Thad]

On 1/22/2023 at 1:53 PM, Redwo1f said:

Just a quick question --- isn't Tank Crew almost entirely a third-party endeavor? (meaning the il2 GBS crew has very little to do with it)

Salutations,

 

I think the vehicle models themselves are indeed created by a third party. I'm not so sure about the vehicles internal programing or who corrects any performance anomalies discovered in the game. If that is IC Game Studios, they are not providing the needed support for the TC faithful.