Next Level Racing seat-pad.

[Panzerlang]

Shinhatsubeit! New product, no idea if it supports IL2 in its software yet (probably not) but it'll run directly off audio too.

HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad - Next Level Racing

[Charlo-VR]

As a very happy user of the SimShaker Wings software and JetPad, I am very intrigued to have another similar option.

 

Ideally, Andre’s software would simply work with this new HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, which would allow the same effects across the eight motors in either pad. We know IL-2 outputs the telemetry data that can be isolated to eight motors, though Next Level Racing does not yet list IL-2 as one of the supported games. 
 

I have asked them if they will support IL-2, and if they say yes and that their software will also allow me to also use my Buttkicker Gamer at the same time (which I currently use within SimShaker Wings and my JetPad), then this might be an easy option to the Gametrix JetPads that can currently be a challenge to get in NA due to circumstances beyond Andre’s control.

 

I suppose I could simply rig up my own seat with a bunch of mini transducers, but this HF8 would be an easier option.

 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Charlo-VR

[RAAF492SQNOz_Steve]

Recommend looking at this video.....

puts things in perspective.
 

 

[Koziolek]

4 hours ago, RAAF492SQNOz_Steve said:

Recommend looking at this video.....
 

Thanks, this was helpful

[Charlo-VR]

7 hours ago, RAAF492SQNOz_Steve said:

Recommend looking at this video.....

puts things in perspective.
 

 

Yeah, I found that candid video review last night and am now more tempted by the Sim Racing Studio U-Shake6, even though it’s $200 more than the HF8: https://www.simracingstudio.com/product-page/srs-ushake6-includes-srs-license-for-bass-shaker
 

I really like the haptic feedback I currently get from the left and right shoulder motors in my SimShaker Wings JetPad, and the U-Shake6 places all of its transducers lower. The U-Shake6 may be better at relaying road feel in driving sims rather than conveying where I am taking damage in IL-2 Great Battles. 
 

My current JetPad combined with my current single Buttkicker is great immersion, but I can’t help but wonder if a U-Shake6 would improve on that, assuming Sim Racing Studios has any shake profiles for IL-2 Great Battles.
 

But based on the comments to this video, the U-Shake6 may also not be able to improve on SimShakerWings telemetry readings which specifically take advantage of all the telemetry IL2 Great Battles outputs.

 

 

At least one commenter on the above review pointed out he or she is still trying to figure out how to get Sim Racing Studios to recognize all of the telemetry output, such as cannon fire, so Andre’s SimShaker Wings with JetPad May still be the best option - if you can get one.

Edited January 13, 2023 by Charlo-VR

[Andre]

21 minutes ago, Charlo-VR said:

so Andre’s SimShaker Wings with JetPad May still be the best option - if you can get one.

One can get it. Well, it's harder than just to come into the shop nearby and grab it, it may be longer to wait delivery,  it may be more expensive due to temporary exchange rates changes, a lot of things changed in the world in 2022, but it is possible. We are still in the game.

[102nd-YU-cmirko]

I really think that JetPad is the hidden cherry on VR simulation cake, so to say - I have it connected together with four bass shakers (stereo mode in Wings) and I couldn't be more happier with added immersion ^^

 

these effects pictured on the screenshot are an amazing immersion multipliers in VR - thank you Andre !! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to stay on topic

 

any chance that U-shake haptic pad could be made to work directly with SimShaker Wings ?  

[Andre]

29 minutes ago, 102nd-YU-cmirko said:

any chance that U-shake haptic pad could be made to work directly with SimShaker Wings ?  

Thank you, sir. IMHO, combination of the vibrating pad with some bass-shakers is great.

Regarding the U-shake haptic pad support I'm not sure I will be able to get the device in the observable future. Even before the Ukrainian crysis SimRacing studio guys refused to ship their products to Russia.

 

[K0rbec]

I got the Next Level Racing HF8 haptic feedback pad. Used SimShaker - Wings trial, USB mode, followed the instructions, copy/paste the line in start.config and it worked great. I added the line to get SRS radio to work with it but didnt test it when I finished. Logged off for the night. Got the registered version and now it does not recognize the HF8 game pad. I deleted the line I had added for SRS and still wont see the HF8 pad. Any suggestions please?

Edited March 10, 2023 by K0rbec

[Andre]

6 hours ago, K0rbec said:

I got the Next Level Racing HF8 haptic feedback pad. Used SimShaker - Wings trial, USB mode, followed the instructions, copy/paste the line in start.config and it worked great. I added the line to get SRS radio to work with it but didnt test it when I finished. Logged off for the night. Got the registered version and now it does not recognize the HF8 game pad. I deleted the line I had added for SRS and still wont see the HF8 pad. Any suggestions please?

In this case you need to add the Realteus Forcefeel support option, which is a paid one.

[nachinus]

On 1/13/2023 at 6:04 PM, Andre said:

One can get it. Well, it's harder than just to come into the shop nearby and grab it, it may be longer to wait delivery,  it may be more expensive due to temporary exchange rates changes, a lot of things changed in the world in 2022, but it is possible. We are still in the game.

But the web doesn't list product price and buy option is greyed out and not clickable. ?

[Andre]

1 hour ago, nachinus said:

But the web doesn't list product price and buy option is greyed out and not clickable. ?

Lot of people thought it was enough to buy just this relatively cheap option and got the whole thing. Have to keep it disabled most of the time to prevent a confusion.

[ITAF_Rani]

Hi all I m interested  to Next Level Racing HF8   I would ask if it works fine also without Simshaker wings Andre  program.

This next level works by USB cable just plug and play?

 

PS my IL2 GB is non Steam version, bought directly from IL2store..any difference?

Because I saw the HF8 support Il2 GB steam version..

 

Thanks in advance

Edited January 23, 2024 by ITAF_Rani

[Panzerlang]

I guess NLR dropped the ball on this, they still don't offer native support for IL2 and DCS.

[Panzerlang]

Thank you for your purchase!

 

SimShaker Wings option: NLR HF8 and Realteus Forcefeel Support

Now to order the seat-pad from Amazon.jp and pray. Lol.

Edited October 31, 2024 by Panzerlang

[Panzerlang]

Lasted approx ten minutes of testing before it was back in the box and ready to be picked up for a refund. I ran it with Andre's software, all it did was mildly vibrate (intensity changed with engine revs, no gun effect I could discern, nothing on landing). Piss-weak and I became hot too, in just ten minutes.

I also installed the native software but nothing in it for IL2. It's been out for nearly two years and they still haven't been arsed.

I might try the Ushake-6 as that has proper transducers as opposed to this thing's buzzers but with two huge bass-shakers already mounted to the cockpit floor I'm not sure why I even bothered with the HF8. Bored I guess.

[Andre]

20 minutes ago, Panzerlang said:

Lasted approx ten minutes of testing before it was back in the box and ready to be picked up for a refund. I ran it with Andre's software, all it did was mildly vibrate (intensity changed with engine revs, no gun effect I could discern, nothing on landing). Piss-weak and I became hot too, in just ten minutes.

I also installed the native software but nothing in it for IL2. It's been out for nearly two years and they still haven't been arsed.

I might try the Ushake-6 as that has proper transducers as opposed to this thing's buzzers but with two huge bass-shakers already mounted to the cockpit floor I'm not sure why I even bothered with the HF8. Bored I guess.

Hmm... sounds strange for me. I can say nothing about HF8 "buzzers" strength as I still use its predecessor Realteus Forcefell seat (which is good on this matter).
Regarding SimShaker Wings software, it features both the noticeable guns effect and the rich ground bumps effect which can be clearly felt at touchdown and runout.

[Panzerlang]

Dunno Andre. I figure it was working correctly because of the vibration changing according to throttle input. I was in a Fokker though, so maybe even with the gun-setting at max in SSW they're not going to create a noticeable vibration. Landing should have done something though.

But regardless, the thing had me close to sweating in ten minutes (ambient temp in my room of 20c) and the buzzers were never going to make the nut anyway. I bought it, feeling pretty sure I wouldn't be keeping it. Curiosity satisfied, lol.

Just to add, the test buttons for each buzzer produced piss-weak vibrations, so regardless of in-game functionality I could deduce the thing's not up to snuff. I had the same kind of buzzers on my high-end race-sim pedals (Fanatec) and removed them because they did next to nothing.

Edited November 2, 2024 by Panzerlang

[Andre]

Well, maybe the hardware of the seat you've got is not quite in order. I know pilots who are happy with this type of seat.

May I help you more with this?

[Panzerlang]

6 minutes ago, Andre said:

Well, maybe the hardware of the seat you've got is not quite in order. I know pilots who are happy with this type of seat.

May I help you more with this?

No thanks Andre, all good here, Amazon.jp are solid on returns and refunds.