AI AAA firing through the trees but player projectiles cannot.

[Mad_Mikhael]

In its current state, AI AAA can shoot through the woods, but player MGs, cannons, bombs, or rockets collide with trees. I think it should be fair if "physics" for AI and the player is the same. Projectiles of both player and AI should go through the trees or not.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

Gotta post a track file.

[AEthelraedUnraed]

23 hours ago, Mad_Mikhael said:

In its current state, AI AAA can shoot through the woods, but player MGs, cannons, bombs, or rockets collide with trees. I think it should be fair if "physics" for AI and the player is the same. Projectiles of both player and AI should go through the trees or not.

AI shoots exactly the same projectiles with exactly the same penetration values as the player. No difference whatsoever. One of the selling points of IL2 is exactly that the physics *are* the same for AI and players, as opposed to some other games. 

[Mad_Mikhael]

I've deleted old tracks with this issue, but when I get a spare time I can provide new ones. For now I have only screenshots.

 

 

https://combatbox.net/en/sortie/log/1914576/?tour=55

 

 

 

58 minutes ago, AEthelraedUnraed said:

AI shoots exactly the same projectiles with exactly the same penetration values as the player. No difference whatsoever. One of the selling points of IL2 is exactly that the physics *are* the same for AI and players, as opposed to some other games. 

In case of planes, yes that's true. But for AI AAA something is wrong.

[Mad_Mikhael]

I have a replay. Thought I've already deleted this one. https://we.tl/t-xPWvP8dWSL

At the beginning you can see 3,7cm Flak firing in the middle of the forest and splashes around me. Then in around 02min you can see [CPT]Crunch also getting hit by the flak in the middle of the forest (https://combatbox.net/en/sortie/log/1914574/?tour=55).

 

Tracer round going all the way through forest.

Edited January 8, 2023 by Mad_Mikhael

[JG27*PapaFly]

I've seen similar effects with tanks.  A few weeks ago,  JG27_Kornezov was driving a tank deep in a forest and got killed by an AI tank that fired a round right through the forest with no line of sight whatsoever. That round passed through a lot of tree trunks.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

@Mad_Mikhael Good post, but you should repost the issue and track files on this forum, probably in autopilot and AI. This looks to be a legitimate AI complaint and we want the devs to see it.

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/89-technical-issues-and-bug-reports/

[Mad_Mikhael]

Okay, I will repost there. Not sure if this fits there, but I looked through different topics there and none of them fits perfectly.