Developer Diary #336 Discussion

[Bonnot]

1 hour ago, kendo said:

Sounds like a great candidate for new $20 collector aircraft!!

 

This one will certainly hit the mark for $30 ,  the famous  " BF109E -4/N  " Galland Special 14 juni 41 " which includes the famous Lobster and Champagne basket to complement the ashtray and cigar lighter.......

[dbuile]

Only available on Osterkamp's b-day!

[=_=HeavenAndClouds]

On 12/18/2022 at 3:38 PM, jojy47jojyrocks said:

Since this is a collector aircraft and basing from an already existing version, they need to REDUCE the PRICE. G-10 would have been much much better than this version. This is more like a modification addon...

 

Personally, I was hoping for something different, like a Ta-152H or He-162, that would be fresh.

 

With G6AS you are paying 15 bucks for the best late war 109.. which it will be.... so its not a lot tbh... i welcome the addition 

They're most likely saving G-10 for a new title... which i dont think it will be the next one... 

Edited December 19, 2022 by =SquadTag=Username_

[oc2209]

On 12/16/2022 at 10:34 AM, Chief_Mouser said:

The only decent 109 we have is the E. Once they took the tail struts away I rather lost interest. Hope you all enjoy it, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between any of the G variants. Mind you, I might have spotted a G-12 if I saw one. ?

 

Nothing against the E (I do like the look of it), but if the rest of the 109 line had developed along the same lines (wing mounted cannons, nothing mounted in the engine), I would rather just fly Spitfires.

 

The centerline cannon armament is what sets the F-K series apart from the majority of other single-engine WWII fighters, from my perspective at least. I mean, yeah, it would still have the great climb performance and acceleration, but the Spitfire is largely similar in performance, and can turn better to boot. Even if the 109 had retained the squared wingtips and the higher roll rate of the E, it would still offer little advantage over a clip-winged Spit.

 

There are really only 3 centerline cannon, single engine fighters (built in significant numbers, at least) to speak of: the P-39, the Yak, and the 109. I'm not counting the La-5/7, because nose mounted cannons aren't quite the same as engine mounted.

 

Of those 3 planes, the 109 has the best performance throughout the majority of the war. Hence it's become the precision sim shooter's ride of choice. Without that niche, I think it'd be far less popular.

[Lusekofte]

15 hours ago, Bonnot said:

 

This one will certainly hit the mark for $30 ,  the famous  " BF109E -4/N  " Galland Special 14 juni 41 " which includes the famous Lobster and Champagne basket to complement the ashtray and cigar lighter.......

What a cockney bastard he was. In BOB movie he shot down a fighter during that Champaign/ lobster transport. I understood it is a true story. 

[Irishratticus72]

2 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

What a cockney bastard he was. In BOB movie he shot down a fighter during that Champaign/ lobster transport. I understood it is a true story. 

Yeah, total Cockney bastard, with his rhyming slang and love of Eels and Mash, eh Guv'nor?

[kendo]

Cor Blimey Lusekofte squire, I never would 'ave Adam an Eved it, if I 'adn't seen it with me own mince pies. I damn near fell off me lion's lair, I did.... 

 

 

 

 

 

Useful link for the uninitiated:

https://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/CockneyTranslator/Translate

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by kendo

[Trooper117]

E needs t'get up them apples and pears fer some little bo peep me old china!

[Wardog5711]

LOL.

The last few posts remind me of my time working with troops from the UK.

It was a constant reminder that we were a common people, separated by a common language.

 

[Lusekofte]

They tease my iPhone autocorrect 

I got to pay more attention 

[Koziolek]

2 hours ago, kendo said:

Cor Blimey Lusekofte squire, I never would 'ave Adam an Eved it, if I 'adn't seen it with me own mince pies. I damn near fell off me lion's lair, I did.... 

 

 

Sorry, where has the english forum moved to?

[Avimimus]

On 12/17/2022 at 2:06 PM, migmadmarine said:

There was mention in that birthday Q&A that Jason did I think in 2020(?) about the prospect of introducing those engine variations with the development of Vol.II and Vol.III of Flying Circus, hopefully that is still the case. 

 

It'd be nice. Getting a more common engine for the Pfalz D.XII etc.

 

The real potential for benefits that I see is re-reengining a few aircraft where having engine variants would allow for improved game balance/variety (as aircraft like the Sopwith Camel had very different performance depending on the engine fitted - and it often made a much bigger difference in WWI than in WWII).

[JG4_Widukind]

On 12/16/2022 at 3:24 PM, BlackHellHound1 said:

While some would say it's "just another 109". I'm still going to get it! 
Been waiting for a G-6/14 with AS since Bodenplatte was announced!

 

Really nice to see this plane finally being added. Now we just need the G-10 and the earlier 109's ?

And also we need FW190 Bomb Mod.Fixes!(A6 and A8)

[Bonnot]

 

NOT KIDDING :

I do not remind where ( perhaps Galland ? ) but I'm seriously assured I'd read about late Jabo 109 used, in winter 44/45,  as emergency "cargo" to resupply surrounded small units in ammo and allow them to fight and fix soviet as long as they can.... the cargo using the modifs of the bombload ( 250 kgs ? )...

Something to check for the BF 109-25 /xyz

[mazex]

This collectors plane makes perfect sense to me - and I am surprised we did not get it earlier as it really does not feel like IL2 without it...

 

- The most flown AC for me in the original IL2 back in the days. I think It was the most popular on MP servers for the German side together with late FWs naturally.

- And naturally very low cost of development 

- We need a high altitude version - and this was widely used.

 

Then it naturally would be logical have a reason to go high on the western front where a lot the important aerial action took place... At least AI versions of you know what, please?

 

And as my mother was almost killed by what was a late war G model 109 in a boat on the Baltic sea, I am not biased that way It might have been an AS. Who knows as they went low as well...

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by mazex

[ScotsmanFlyingscotsman]

21 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

LOL.

The last few posts remind me of my time working with troops from the UK.

It was a constant reminder that we were a common people, separated by a common language.

 

That's funny we said that when we worked with the USAF! but we all go on great, lol, 

[Wardog5711]

 

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That's funny we said that when we worked with the USAF! but we all go on great, lol, 

Oh yeah, we got along great. Once the slang dictionary was updated!!

But lets all try to get this one back on the tracks.  Myself included.

We are starting to drift away from the subject a bit more than usual. ?

[Bonnot]

2 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said:

 

 

We are starting to drift away from the subject a bit more than usual. ?

 

      "BEER is the answer,  anyone remember the Question "  ?

[Gr3y]

Happy to hear about new addition, not really excited it's the 109 again, would much rather see some mod for something else, let's say Ju87.

 

We already have some differences in collector plane's prices but I feel like they should be bigger (to clarify - existing planes modifications should be cheaper).

 

Offtopic: Some people mentioned changes in the engine to boost the realism, I'd be all for it, since I don't change planes that often but I do understand that devs do not want to spend that much time on something they don't sell separately or maybe are afraid that it wouldn't sell as separate "realism/simulator pack" (tbh I probably could join crowdfund for it, since it's less risky for devs).

Edited December 21, 2022 by Gr3y
wording

[Bonnot]

3 hours ago, Gr3y said:

We already have some differences in collector plane's prices but I feel like they should be higher (to clarify - existing planes modifications should be cheaper).

 

That is a good idea : 100% for a brand new plane ( eg  F4 U.... ) and between 10 to 50% for a new canopy or a real new version, like a torpedo or dorsal turret......

 

[Roland_HUNter]

Can we get this for the G-6/AS?
 

Then the plane could carry 500 kg bombs.

[JG7_RudeRaptor]

Sweet !!!!

[BalticDude]

Hope we get AI heavy bombers with new high-alt planes as well as something for the 262 to shoot down.

[R7-S276]

Hope one day (soon) we could have the B25 and B26 with pilot AND copilot seats flyable like for the C47 and an update fo replace the AI copilot of the Ju52 and the AI navigator of the Mosquito by a human player… for me it’s the priority

[Hese]

Great news PROVIDED, that we get this time the modell, wich has the corrected landing gear!

As everybody can see from exellent drawings enclosed by JG7_XMan, the landing gear strut

should lean 20 degrees forward. This can stink nitpicking, but as I´ve written two times earlier,

those degrees are so prominent for the look of all Bf109 modells, that I dared to write about

this aberration once again! I´ll stay hopefully waiting the new Messerschmitt and thank you in ad-

vance!

 

 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hese

[ColdArcher]

On 12/16/2022 at 8:18 AM, FAW-Tromplamort said:

Interesting... I would have hoped for a Yak-3 who is an iconic Soviet Fighter we lack in the simulation.

100% wholeheartedly agree!

On 12/16/2022 at 8:18 AM, FAW-Tromplamort said:

Interesting... I would have hoped for a Yak-3 who is an iconic Soviet Fighter we lack in the simulation.

100% wholeheartedly agree! How about a La7 while your at it!!

[AKA_Ramstein]

On 12/16/2022 at 6:17 AM, smink1701 said:

Another 109?

 

they missed the one made on Mars

[AKA_Ramstein]

we have to Jabo every mission, no altitude bombers at all for us.

[JG7_X-Man]

On 12/31/2022 at 9:44 AM, ColdArcher said:

100% wholeheartedly agree!

100% wholeheartedly agree! How about a La7 while your at it!!

Bro! You couldn't find an emblem more original? With 13 posts to your name now would be the right time to change your profile pic! 

Edited January 3, 2023 by JG7_X-Man

[Wardog5711]

Unfortunately, changing the Avatar is not available to any individual users right now. So that had to have been up since before the lock back in early 2022.  

It can be deleted, but not replaced by anyone but the IT department right now. And I'm not dragging anyone in from holiday over a picture. 

Let's see what we can work out without it escalating into a forum feud.  

[BraveSirRobin]

1 hour ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Bro! You couldn't find an emblem more original? With 13 posts to your name now would be the right time to change your profile pic! 

If you think that is bad, look at all the people who copied my avatar.  Not a very creative crew in here.

[Ghost666]

But how could anyone resist with a mug like that?

 

[LLv44_Oke]

Next plane to store should be Bristol blenheim. Suitable for every theater : channel, north africa , pacific, eastern front (FAF). It would correct the lack of early war allied bomber ( wickers wellington could be alternative choice)

[ColdArcher]

On 1/3/2023 at 9:14 AM, JG7_X-Man said:

Bro! You couldn't find an emblem more original? With 13 posts to your name now would be the right time to change your profile pic! 

Bro, I’ve had this avatar and handle since 1998 when I played Microsoft combat flight simulator. And who cares how many posts I have?? ??‍♂️

[Roland_HUNter]

I humbly ask the developers to take these research results into account when designing the new 109:

 

 

[mspyker13]

I absolutely love this game! I would personally love to see a Yak 3 and a TA152 for the Germans. I don't know how popular more eastern front content would be as far as what i have read everywhere else here... Pacific realistically cannot be done... so that leaves few options as to where we can possibly take the series next. A full fledged remaster and integration of CoD seems pretty unlikely but it would be absolutely awesome to see everything in the same interface. 

[Trooper117]

The Pacific is going to be done...

[Lusekofte]

50 minutes ago, mspyker13 said:

Pacific realistically cannot be done

Shush!

silence please

Devs don’t know that, they stated they would do it

[mspyker13]

Sorry man. I just expect the worst from games at this point... however, Corsairs and Hellcats were both used in Europe by the Royal Navy so we may see those boys either way :D

Also, it's gonna be kinda hard to gather flight data from Japanese planes there are no flyable survivors nor any flight data for. I should not have brought it up loll

[Dragon1-1]

3 hours ago, mspyker13 said:

Also, it's gonna be kinda hard to gather flight data from Japanese planes there are no flyable survivors nor any flight data for.

Not true. Planes of Fame museum has a whole module's worth of Japanese planes in flying condition. As a matter of fact, DCS is gearing up for venturing into PTO, with two modules and a whole slew of AI vehicles in the pipeline.