Battle over Europe

[SharkWolf2022]

I t ally don't understand it. Soviet career is impossible to "finish" as it ends in 1943. 

The Soviet roster is also incomplete as it lacks any true late war planes like the Yak-3, La-7, TU2 and late model IL-2s or IL-10s. 

 

Why do most people on the forum seem to hate the idea of a new dlc being a late war Eastern Front module when he have zero so far? 

 

 

[Eisenfaustus]

Not sure if it‘s the majority or a loud minority. I personally would really like to see the eastern front finished. 
 

But this is an English speaking forum so that maybe some here simply aren’t interested in the eastern front because Anglo American forces weren’t involved. 
 

Or simply counting - only 2 Western releases but 3 eastern. 

[Sobilak]

Hi.

Operation Bagration/Poland front will be great.

Eventually last month's of war in Europe ( Berlin in center of map for west and east allies).

 

 

But to the end of WW2 in Europe;

- only 3 units use Il10

 

- By 1 January 1945 there were 398 La-7s in front-line service.

 

It was marginal/sybmolic use. I don't think devs will make this aircraft's.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by Sobilak

[76IAP-Black]

The expectations of some people are, to have a similar game like 46 with all the theaters and scenarios available. 
So the pending from east to west and back isn't as exciting as to jump somewhere else, get new maps in new locations, new mechanics.

Pacific without fuelsystem and droptanks will be a bit shortranged, maybe not just the carrier thing is holding back the devs. 

we need an upgrade in:
- water
- gras
- landing on water
- sound
etc ...
 

[Juri_JS]

I think to some extent it's a lack of historical knowledge. Many people don't know that there are some rather interesting scenarios in the timeframe from late 1944 to the end of the war, because the situation in the air was much less one sided than in the west, especially when the Luftwaffe began to concentrate most of its units in the east in early 1945.

 

Interesting episode during this time were for example:
- The battles along the Oder river, were the Luftwaffe tried to destroy bridges by using Mistel aircraft and even suicide pilots.
- Air supply operations for encircled cities like Breslau, Küstrin or Budapest.
- The last large scale German offensive in Hungary.
- The air war over East Prussia, where the French pilots of Normandie-Niemen regiment were active.

Edited December 1, 2022 by Juri_JS

[sevenless]

48 minutes ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

I t ally don't understand it. Soviet career is impossible to "finish" as it ends in 1943. 

The Soviet roster is also incomplete as it lacks any true late war planes like the Yak-3, La-7, TU2 and late model IL-2s or IL-10s. 

 

Why do most people on the forum seem to hate the idea of a new dlc being a late war Eastern Front module when he have zero so far? 

 

 

 

Don´t confuse the forum members being representative for the whole consumer base. 1CGS can track which theatres are played the most and where the most interest and revenue is. I for my part would love to see et least two more eastfront modules to see the VVS gaining the upper hand over the Nazis from 1943 to VE-Day.:

 

1) 1943/44 (Ukraine)

2) 1944/45 (Poland)

 

And an additional early eastfront module 06/1941 - 10/1941 (Belorussia)

 

I bought this game for a reason, that is airwar on the eastern front.

[CountZero]

3 hours ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

I t ally don't understand it. Soviet career is impossible to "finish" as it ends in 1943. 

The Soviet roster is also incomplete as it lacks any true late war planes like the Yak-3, La-7, TU2 and late model IL-2s or IL-10s. 

 

Why do most people on the forum seem to hate the idea of a new dlc being a late war Eastern Front module when he have zero so far? 

 

 

Maybe because developers said in videos that next DLC is something new for team, so whats new for team in late east front DLC ?

3 hours ago, Sobilak said:

Hi.

Operation Bagration/Poland front will be great.

Eventually last month's of war in Europe ( Berlin in center of map for west and east allies).

 

 

But to the end of WW2 in Europe;

- only 3 units use Il10

 

- By 1 January 1945 there were 398 La-7s in front-line service.

 

It was marginal/sybmolic use. I don't think devs will make this aircraft's.

 

 

LOL do you see what airplanes they selected to make untill now... ONE ar-234 had 20mm gunpods, and we have it in game , next collector airplane is Spitfire XIVe bubble canopy version... i think if they do late war east front and dont make LA-7 they could pack their bags and go to new company as this one would bancrupt imidiatly after anouncment that no La-7 in 1945 DLC in east front. There is only 5 reasons why ppl wont late war east front, La-7 , Yak-3 , Bf-109G-10 , Fw-190A-9 and Ta-152H, if you cant do them do not bather with it... 

Edited December 1, 2022 by CountZero

[Sobilak]

1 hour ago, CountZero said:

Maybe because developers said in videos that next DLC is something new for team, so whats new for team in late east front DLC ?

LOL do you see what airplanes they selected to make untill now... ONE ar-234 had 20mm gunpods, and we have it in game , next collector airplane is Spitfire XIVe bubble canopy version... i think if they do late war east front and dont make LA-7 they could pack their bags and go to new company as this one would bancrupt imidiatly after anouncment that no La-7 in 1945 DLC in east front. There is only 5 reasons why ppl wont late war east front, La-7 , Yak-3 , Bf-109G-10 , Fw-190A-9 and Ta-152H, if you cant do them do not bather with it... 

-ok. Some about 1000 aircraft's on 9 may 1945 was in service.

But IL 10 ?

Spit XIVe with "tear-drop" canopy was produced from july 1944 but  don't know how many was in service.

Ar-234 something freak in this game.

 

"i think if they do late war east front and dont make LA-7 they could pack their bags and go to new company as this one would bancrupt imidiatly after anouncment that no La-7 in 1945 DLC in east front."

I don't think La-7 will be the reason for bacrupting or somethig. Aircraft didn't contribute anything special to WW2.

If a lot of ppl want this aircraft maybe devs will make it. OK. Only if they didn't make a UFO out of it, which it wasn't.

 

  

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by Sobilak

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

29 minutes ago, Sobilak said:

Only if they didn't make a UFO out of it, which it wasn't.

Like the Tempest ?

[Cpt_Cool]

Because variety is the spice of life. Haven't you heard? Two modules in a row per theater is fine. Three is marginal. Four is bad buisness especially if you will be trotting out the fourth or fifth version of the same type across the board.

[Sobilak]

16 minutes ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

Like the Tempest ?

I don't play Tempest very often, (never online) so I don't know it's UFO ?

But technically Tempest was more advanced by La-7.

Edited December 1, 2022 by Sobilak

[Jade_Monkey]

Let me reverse the question: Why would anyone want to see late eastern front in the game?

 

I'm not trying to be facetious, i think you are assuming late eastern front is a good idea and the weird ones are the people who don't want it.

 

What if they don't have any knowledge on the subject, why would they be excited about such a scenario vs some other theater they understand better? 

 

It has been written in a few posts, but why don't you tell us why it would be such a great option other than finishing the career?

 

My biggest concern is the Axis plane lineup being incredibly boring if they don't go for more rare planes like the Fw189.

 

[CountZero]

Why ? , its obvious :

La-7 , Yak-3 , Bf-109G-10 , Fw-190A-9 and Ta-152H,

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by CountZero

[Eisenfaustus]

4 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

i think you are assuming late eastern front is a good idea and the weird ones are the people who don't want it.

Some people of both „camps“ can be very emotional concerning their opinion. 
 

I would love to be able to finish my Eastern Front careers - I absolutely get that many couldn’t care less. 
 

I think there are cool mainstreamy  enough choices for axis fighters (bombers are easy) to be interesting - 109 G10, 190 A9, Ta 152 and He 162 spring to mind. Yet I fully understand why you and others feel we have enough 109s and 190s already. 
 

I believe that at a front stretching from the Baltic to the Balkans there is plenty of room for interesting maps - but of course other theatres have the opportunity for far more diversity. 
 

It comes down to personal preference as there are good arguments for and against late eastern front. 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Manchuria.   Russian and Japanese plane sets.  Paves the way for future Asian efforts.. win, win.

[=621=Samikatz]

I just want a Tu-2 of some kind, please and thank you

[percydanvers]

1 hour ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Let me reverse the question: Why would anyone want to see late eastern front in the game?

 

I'm not trying to be facetious, i think you are assuming late eastern front is a good idea and the weird ones are the people who don't want it.

 

What if they don't have any knowledge on the subject, why would they be excited about such a scenario vs some other theater they understand better? 

 

It has been written in a few posts, but why don't you tell us why it would be such a great option other than finishing the career?

 

My biggest concern is the Axis plane lineup being incredibly boring if they don't go for more rare planes like the Fw189.

 

 

I am interested in it specifically because of the axis planeset. The 190 A-9 and the 109 G-10 look like "just another 190 and 109" but to me they feel like missing puzzle pieces that form the complete picture of the development life cycle of these two planes, though I understand why others might not see it so. I think the Ta-152 would be an incredibly interesting plane to fly even if you don't happen to be obsessed with Fw 190s.

 

I also think it's narratively interesting. I don't agree that the "average consumer" looks at final battles in Germany as uninteresting. From Downfall to CoD WaW there's loads of popular media covering the Battle of Berlin. I guarantee that there are more people who have heard of the Battle of Berlin and are interested in it than there are people who know what Operation Bodenplatte was. Even someone who knows next to nothing about WWII knows that the fighting got to Berlin eventually and has probably seen pictures of the Soviet Flag raised on the Reichstag.

 

Think of all the interesting scenarios that come with this setting: You could be a VVS pilot who has to intercept AI Mistel bombers that are trying to blow up bridges on the Oder, you could be a Luftwaffe pilot whose last mission is to make a long and extremely perilous flight to try to land in allied territory instead of getting captured by the USSR. You could be an Me-262 pilot from Jg 7 who, instead of intercepting bombers gets unexpected tasking to strafe the Russian Liberation Army which has suddenly defected. There are so many interesting stories in the chaotic closing months of the war.  

 

Ultimately it is a totally subjective matter as to what you find interesting and don't, but I just can't agree with this idea that "yet another Eastern Front" module is somehow automatically boring. I would still personally prefer Italy or Sicily of course, but I would still be plenty excited if the next module did turn out to be Late Eastern Front. 

[Carl_infar]

Please no more 190s, 109d, yaks,las for at least some time (1 or 2  battles). Lets have something different like Burma, Salomons, or at least jawa or China 

[DBFlyguy]

To answer OP's question, for me personally, I just don't care for more eastern front stuff. The eastern front has been done to death in this series.  Take a look at the store page, the mass majority of products are eastern front focused, there is plenty for that fan base to do with the series. Enough already.  I have no idea if that is the majority or minority opinion, nor do I care... I just know personally I won't be buying any more eastern front focused products for this series (or a revamped..."new"..."rebooted"...whatever they call it)

[jojy47jojyrocks]

I think the devs themselves could be doing a non Eastern front for their next project. But, I have to say, I am most certainly NOT against Eastern front, especially the LATE eastern front. I guess we'll just have to wait till they unveil their next project.

 

The Brand sim name itself is IL2 Sturmovik, gotta stick to it and show the Late war has the IL-10 ...maybe not IL2, but it is still a Sturmovik.

[Gambit21]

6 hours ago, Juri_JS said:

I think to some extent it's a lack a historical knowledge.

 

To some extent....but not really.

Mostly it's just - "enough 109's and 190's already"  and there's interesting Japanese and Allied naval aircraft that haven't been touched.

So I'd say it's more of "time to cover new ground" thing.

 

You can teach me all you want about the eastern front...but those that feel like I do I still don't want another module featuring more 109's.

And despite what's been said, there's really no emotion involved there.

 

That said, give me a Storch, give me a Ju 52 float plane, give me an He 115 (float plane) - variety.

 

 

[[CPT]Crunch]

Nothing wrong with east front stuff, but probably not happening at 'this point in time'.  They've just reorganizing in a new direction, allow them to do that and see what they can accomplish first before clawing at the structure.  If they succeed and speed up the pipeline you'll get your east front and more much quicker.  As it is this process has been molasses up to now, quit evident their current output will never meet our demands, witness these chronic and regular cat fights.  Pretty sure they realize what they've got, they just need to figure out how to build a real gem before someone else succeeds. 

 

If the east front is totally dead why am I getting an IAR in my sock for Christmas? 

 

I'd speculate they're working on advancing and rebuilding their mapping system, concentrating on land details and high fidelity relief, so little in the way of cities, forests, and rivers.  Thinking first we'll get something wastelandish, empty, and deserty or plains with complex rifts and valleys and stunning changes in terrain types with visuals.  Goals of faster map production, cause we're at the point where it's no longer a lack of planes slowing down the game, most of the planes are sexy enough already to stick into a detailed and greater resolution world of land and sky.

[PatrickAWlson]

Multiple camps with different wants.  SP campaign players would probably be good with late war Russia for campaign completeness.  People who want as large a variety of aircraft as possible and are not terribly interested in careers would not want it.  They would like to see something that brings in as many different aircraft types as possible.  Then there are people who are really more interested  in the Pacific than Europe, so they want the Pacific.  If you're a lover of Italian planes you might want Italy or Med.  None of these are invalid.  They are just different wish lists.

 

The one that ticks off most of my boxes is France 1940.  We would get some interesting variants like the Ju87B, Hurricane I and Spitfire I while also opening the door for some brand new types.  French aircraft.  Do 17 or Hs123.  Blenheim.  Lots of possibilities.  The early German planes would also be applicable to Moscow.  I would not object to a 7/3 aircraft ration instead of 5/5 as most of the interesting stuff is on the Allied side.  Still ... France 1940?  Who cares?  Last two modules were western Europe.  Let's do something new!  Another Spitfire, Hurricane, Spitfire, and Stuka?  Boring!

 

 

Shrug ... everybody has their wants and their reasons.

 

 

 

[SharkWolf2022]

I have never liked the Pacific theatre of operations. It is the theatre I know probably the least amount about in World War II so I am not particularly excited for it. I don't like pretty much any US aircraft outside of a few and the only major USN aircraft I really like won't be in BOX at all- the F8F Bearcat. Its only the Jet Age that makes me start liking US planes such as the F86 Sabre and the Panthers.

 

I would much rather see (in order)

Late War Eastern Front:

To round off the Soviet career and bring parity between the Eastern and Western Front. People who say the Eastern Front has been "done to death" don't seem to think the same of the Western Front who already have 2 Expansions in a row now- just one less than the Eastern Front. In addition, the VVS is critically lacking competitive late war planes. (1943 is mid war IMO) 

Not sure the best planes to add but ones I would like to see include:

 

VVS:

Yak3- Fighter

La-7 - Fighter

IL-2 "Arrow Wing" - Attacker

Tu-2S - Bomber

 

Axis:

BF109G10- One of the last major 109 models missing from the German roster. 

FW190A-9 as suggested

Do217M- An upgrade to the aging Ju88 IMO. Better defended with 13mm turrets, larger bombload and ever so slightly faster. Also, we don't have a Do yet for some reason.

Some sort of attacker?

 

Battle Of France:

Early war western front. I have made a post about this in the past with the planes I wanted included. Link here: 

 

I was just going to copy paste but that would have taken up quite a bit of space.

 

Battle Of Sicily:

Western Front would need a 1943 career to cover the gap between Early War and Normandy. This is also one of (two) expansions I could foresee the Italian Theatre receiving thanks to the fact that Italians were, surprisingly, able to design decent aircraft (outside of the fact they thought a Biplane would be a good design choice in the late '30s. The problem with Italian aircraft is that they were all produced in very small numbers. One commenter posted that the La7 had less than 1000 used in the war. Most Italian aircraft designs had less than 500 produced. Adding any of them is a bit of a gamble but a necessary sacrifice unless we start throwing in more 109s. Italian planes could include the C.205(used in limited numbers in the battle), Re.2002 

 

Battle Of Italy:

A logical next step after the Battle of Sicily. This battle would be a good extension to the battle of Sicily and provide an alternative career advancement compared to the stereotypical battle of Normandy. In addition, the battle of Italy would provide a chance for us to get another variant of the Mosquito- perhaps an actual bomber variant this time?!  

 

Only 35 G.55s were used in the Battle of Italy for example. The Re.2005 would be a good choice for a "modern" Italian fighter to include in the Battle of Italy alongside a variant of the 109G.

 

The Ca314 was produced in large numbers (for Italy) and would make a good choice for a Light Bomber/Torpedo Bomber-Perhaps it could be used as a testbed for Torpedoes?

 

For those who care, the top priority on my list other than late war eastern front is a Bomber Variant of the Mosquito- there were a ton made of quite a few dedicated bomber variants and it would fill the hole the Western Allies have in regard to not having...any bombers. 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by SharkWolf2022

[SharkWolf2022]

1 hour ago, Carl_infar said:

Please no more 190s, 109d, yaks,las for at least some time (1 or 2  battles). Lets have something different like Burma, Salomons, or at least jawa or China 

I think the Philippines could be a good BOX entry. Either Early or Late War. Could completely skip the naval portion If that's what is holding the devs back. Personally I think late war Philippines would be the best choice. 

 

I hate pretty much every early war US fighter so IMO the late war would be better. 

[CountZero]

17 minutes ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

I have never liked the Pacific theatre of operations. It is the theatre I know probably the least amount about in World War II so I am not particularly excited for it. I don't really want any Japanese planes whilst the Marine Corps/Navy the only plane I really care for was not used in the war- the F8F Bearcat. 

 

I would much rather see (in order)

Late War Eastern Front:

To round off the Soviet career and bring parity between the Eastern and Western Front. People who say the Eastern Front has been "done to death" don't seem to think the same of the Western Front who already have 2 Expansions in a row now- just one less than the Eastern Front. In addition, the VVS is critically lacking competitive late war planes. (1943 is mid war IMO) 

Not sure the best planes to add but ones I would like to see include:

 

VVS:

Yak3- Fighter

La-7 - Fighter

IL-2 "Arrow Wing" - Attacker

Tu-2S - Bomber

 

Axis:

BF109G10- One of the last major 109 models missing from the German roster. 

FW190A-9 as suggested

Do217M- An upgrade to the aging Ju88 IMO. Better defended with 13mm turrets, larger bombload and ever so slightly faster. Also, we don't have a Do yet for some reason.

Some sort of attacker?

 

Battle Of France:

Early war western front. I have made a post about this in the past with the planes I wanted included. Link here: 

 

I was just going to copy paste but that would have taken up quite a bit of space.

 

Battle Of Sicily:

Western Front would need a 1943 career to cover the gap between Early War and Normandy. This is also one of (two) expansions I could foresee the Italian Theatre receiving thanks to the fact that Italians were, surprisingly, able to design decent aircraft (outside of the fact they thought a Biplane would be a good design choice in the late '30s. The problem with Italian aircraft is that they were all produced in very small numbers. One commenter posted that the La7 had less than 1000 used in the war. Most Italian aircraft designs had less than 500 produced. Adding any of them is a bit of a gamble but a necessary sacrifice unless we start throwing in more 109s. Italian planes could include the C.205(used in limited numbers in the battle), Re.2002 

 

Battle Of Italy:

A logical next step after the Battle of Sicily. This battle would be a good extension to the battle of Sicily and provide an alternative career advancement compared to the stereotypical battle of Normandy. In addition, the battle of Italy would provide a chance for us to get another variant of the Mosquito- perhaps an actual bomber variant this time?!  

 

Only 35 G.55s were used in the Battle of Italy for example. The Re.2005 would be a good choice for a "modern" Italian fighter to include in the Battle of Italy alongside a variant of the 109G.

 

The Ca314 was produced in large numbers (for Italy) and would make a good choice for a Light Bomber/Torpedo Bomber-Perhaps it could be used as a testbed for Torpedoes?

 

For those who care, the top priority on my list other than late war eastern front is a Bomber Variant of the Mosquito- there were a ton made of quite a few dedicated bomber variants and it would fill the hole the Western Allies have in regard to not having...any bombers. 

 

 

 

It has to be Italy then... oh wait

 

 

[Lusekofte]

13 minutes ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

IL-2 "Arrow Wing" - Attacker

You mean IL 2 3M with swept back wing to compensate balance?

 

Personally I simply has no interest in another fast fighter collection. 
I would buy early war like Finnish winterwar / continuous war with Blenheims and DO 17 and SB 2. or North front whatever year with IL 4   I simply do not like what if scenarios late war. Because any attempt mid 44 and later from Luftwaffe was utter disaster. 
Overall east front is perfect for this engine

[CountZero]

4 minutes ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

I think the Philippines could be a good BOX entry. Either Early or Late War. Could completely skip the naval portion If that's what is holding the devs back. Personally I think late war Philippines would be the best choice. 

 

I hate pretty much every early war US fighter so IMO the late war would be better. 

Buy next DLC and next one after that is PTO... true since 2017... still same story from devs about PTO... its next DLC... just buy one you dont wont... and next one is PTO LOL

[Juri_JS]

35 minutes ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

Do217M- An upgrade to the aging Ju88 IMO. Better defended with 13mm turrets, larger bombload and ever so slightly faster. Also, we don't have a Do yet for some reason.

No Do-217 bombers in the east, only a small number was flown by night reconnaissance units.

 

I think the only German level bombers you would see on the eastern front after October 1944 were some He-111 used for supply drops.

[Sgt_Joch]

I would love to see a late war Eastern Front module, either Bagration 44 or Berlin 45 themed, but I can see the potential roadblocks. Most German fighters are already modelled and a Bagration map would look similar to the BoM map. With BoM, BoS and BoK, we already have the most interesting period (41-43) modelled and existing VVS fighters like the La-5fn and the Yak-1b already allow to model early 44.

 

Personally, I would be happy if some late VVS fighters like the Yak-3 and La-7 were added as collector planes so we could play late war missions.

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by Sgt_Joch

[FliegerAD]

3 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

My biggest concern is the Axis plane lineup being incredibly boring if they don't go for more rare planes like the Fw189.

 

 

Only if you think of single engined fighters, and even then mostly from the perspective of the Bodenplatte-module owner.

There are still a lot of Luftwaffe attackers and bombers well deserving to be modelled, like the advanced Junkers 88 series (Ju 88S, 188, 388), or the Ju 87D-5. Also, I would love to get my hands on a Mistel.

 

 

5 hours ago, CountZero said:

LOL do you see what airplanes they selected to make untill now... ONE ar-234 had 20mm gunpods, and we have it in game

 

We have the Ar 234 airplane in game, which is historically significant enough for any combat sim: first jet bomber, first jet recon, first jet to fight another jet (bombed a Meteor). And it looks great. Of course it made its way into the game.

The devs were nice enough to add that rare modification, which was quite well received by the community because people like fixed frontal guns. (who would have guessed?)

 

Moaning about that modification every second post makes it sound like it was the only reason the Ar 234 was included.

 

It was not.

[jollyjack]

Fun spoiler: I'd like to see a module with only peace in mind and no warplanes. MS flight-sim done IL-2 style would be a hit.

Edited December 1, 2022 by jollyjack

[sevenless]

18 minutes ago, FliegerAD said:

There are still a lot of Luftwaffe attackers and bombers well deserving to be modelled, like the advanced Junkers 88 series (Ju 88S, 188, 388), or the Ju 87D-5. Also, I would love to get my hands on a Mistel.

 

Yep. Especially because most of those saw service on all fronts and could be integrated in already existing modules. Mistel (different variants) were AFAIK prominently used at Remagen and the Oder crossings in 1945.

[Enceladus828]

1 hour ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

Battle Of France:

Early war western front. I have made a post about this in the past with the planes I wanted included. Link here: 

 

I was just going to copy paste but that would have taken up quite a bit of space.

 

Battle Of Sicily:

Western Front would need a 1943 career to cover the gap between Early War and Normandy. This is also one of (two) expansions I could foresee the Italian Theatre receiving thanks to the fact that Italians were, surprisingly, able to design decent aircraft (outside of the fact they thought a Biplane would be a good design choice in the late '30s. The problem with Italian aircraft is that they were all produced in very small numbers. One commenter posted that the La7 had less than 1000 used in the war. Most Italian aircraft designs had less than 500 produced. Adding any of them is a bit of a gamble but a necessary sacrifice unless we start throwing in more 109s. Italian planes could include the C.205(used in limited numbers in the battle), Re.2002 

 

Battle Of Italy:

A logical next step after the Battle of Sicily. This battle would be a good extension to the battle of Sicily and provide an alternative career advancement compared to the stereotypical battle of Normandy. In addition, the battle of Italy would provide a chance for us to get another variant of the Mosquito- perhaps an actual bomber variant this time?!  

 

Only 35 G.55s were used in the Battle of Italy for example. The Re.2005 would be a good choice for a "modern" Italian fighter to include in the Battle of Italy alongside a variant of the 109G.

 

The Ca314 was produced in large numbers (for Italy) and would make a good choice for a Light Bomber/Torpedo Bomber-Perhaps it could be used as a testbed for Torpedoes?

The devs stated during the livestream that Italy is off the table as the map is too big and for that and the other two places you suggested, if the devs don't go there next then a team of people composed of community members who really want to see Italy or Malta + Sicily in this game can make the map, the devs will provide them with information, possibly step in for complex parts of the map and when the map is nearly done, the devs will make the final corrections and adjustments before testing it and releasing the map with the team getting a considerable amount of income.

 

1 hour ago, SharkWolf2022 said:

For those who care, the top priority on my list other than late war eastern front is a Bomber Variant of the Mosquito- there were a ton made of quite a few dedicated bomber variants and it would fill the hole the Western Allies have in regard to not having...any bombers. 

 

Oh yes. Ever since I started playing IL-2 1946 when I was a kid I've always wanted to fly the Bomber variant of the Mosquito. Personally, I'd rather have that over the teardrop canopy Spitfire Mk. XIV. That's just me.

[SharkWolf2022]

1 hour ago, Sgt_Joch said:

I would love to see a late war Eastern Front module, either Bagration 44 or Berlin 45 themed, but I can see the potential roadblocks. Most German fighters are already modelled and a Bagration map would look similar to the BoM map. With BoM, BoS and BoK, we already have the most interesting period (41-43) modelled and existing VVS fighters like the La-5fn and the Yak-1b already allow to model early 44.

 

Personally, I would be happy if some late VVS fighters like the Yak-3 and La-7 were added as collector planes so we could play late war missions.

 

 

I don't think that will happen solely because there are no maps they would be usable on and I think the devs try to avoid planes that are only flyable in multiplayer/quick mission builder. I personally never have, and never will, play multiplayer. Using them in QMB is possible but...eh, I'm not a big fan of being forced out of career mode just because the plane I really like is QMB only.

[Lusekofte]

45 minutes ago, jollyjack said:

Fun spoiler: I'd like to see a module with only peace in mind and no warplanes. MS flight-sim done IL-2 style would be a hit.

Fs 2020 has done a marvellous job in that regard. Much better than this ever be. Smooth and a keyboard strike change from VR to  screen and back again. No it will not bring them anything. 

[Trooper117]

The only Eastern Front I'd be interested in now would be Murmansk, and that's it... I'm really not one of those who want to ''finish the series with Bagration/Berlin'' etc.

I'm really glad they have said they are going for something new however, it's about time for a change.

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, jollyjack said:

Fun spoiler: I'd like to see a module with only peace in mind and no warplanes.

 

Yes, it's called Microsoft Flight Simulator ?

 

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MS flight-sim done IL-2 style would be a hit.

 

LOL no, it would not. Not a chance.

[oc2209]

5 hours ago, CountZero said:

Why ? , its obvious :

La-7 , Yak-3 , Bf-109G-10 , Fw-190A-9 and Ta-152H,

 

 

Yak-9U is also pretty interesting (when it's not overheating).

 

Not only is it faster than either the La-7 or Yak-3, but it has a wide variety of different armament configurations possible; and they'd all fit in the default plane, with no need for a separate model to use 37mm cannons (like the -9T versus the -9).

[DD_Arthur]

5 hours ago, CountZero said:

Why ? , its obvious :

La-7 , Yak-3 , Bf-109G-10 , Fw-190A-9 and Ta-152H,

 

Wake me up again when there’s a chance of getting wet…