Intercepting a V-1

[Jackfraser24]

How do you get your Spitfire XIV, Tempest, Typhoon or Mustang fast enough to intercept a V-1 cruise missile? 
 

I had the plane’s throttle and RPM up to the last and I’ve tried to dive on it and get enough speed, but each time I failed. What else should I do?

 

Thanks.

[Raptorattacker]

Come in from above, see where the trajectory is on the latest radar report and diagonally cross the flight path and you shaould have some joy. I did.

You gotta remember that these things, while small and a little hard to ID at first, only fly in a dead straight line but they do so very fast.

[Jackfraser24]

8 hours ago, Raptorattacker said:

Come in from above, see where the trajectory is on the latest radar report and diagonally cross the flight path and you shaould have some joy. I did.

You gotta remember that these things, while small and a little hard to ID at first, only fly in a dead straight line but they do so very fast.

Thanks 

[Jackfraser24]

We need Meteors in the game, pronto!

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

We need Meteors in the game, pronto!

 

Lol. They came to the same conclusion in 1944!

[LFL-EightyPLUS]

With regards to V1 interception, Is there anyway to do this without buying the Battle of Normady pack?

As far as i can tell, its not included in the quick mission option on RHeinland maps?

 

Or is there another way to unlock this challange? 

[AndyJWest]

I don't think aircraft were used for V-1 interception during the timeframe for the Rheinland map.

[Jaegermeister]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:09 AM, LFL-EightyPLUS said:

With regards to V1 interception, Is there anyway to do this without buying the Battle of Normady pack?

As far as i can tell, its not included in the quick mission option on RHeinland maps?

 

Or is there another way to unlock this challange? 

 

You should be able to run a single mission created in the ME since the V1 is AI only. The only limitations on user created missions is that you can't fly a plane you don't own. 

 

On 12/8/2022 at 3:57 PM, AndyJWest said:

I don't think aircraft were used for V-1 interception during the timeframe for the Rheinland map.

 

There were still V1s and V2s launched against Belgium and specifically Antwerp into 1945. The RAF chased them with Spitfires and Tempests

 

On 12/4/2022 at 2:21 AM, Jackfraser24 said:

How do you get your Spitfire XIV, Tempest, Typhoon or Mustang fast enough to intercept a V-1 cruise missile? 

 

The Mustang B5 is faster than the V1 with full throttle, WEP, and full rich mixture, assuming you trim it properly.

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Jaegermeister

[Jackfraser24]

4 hours ago, Jaegermeister said:

 

You should be able to run a single mission created in the ME since the V1 is AI only. The only limitations on user created missions is that you can't fly a plane you don't own. 

 

 

There were still V1s and V2s launched against Belgium and specifically Antwerp into 1945. The RAF chased them with Spitfires and Tempests

 

 

The Mustang B5 is faster than the V1 with full throttle, WEP, and full rich mixture, assuming you trim it properly.

 

Where do I find War Emergency Power? I’ve looked in controls but I can find it.

[dannytherat]

1 hour ago, Jackfraser24 said:

Where do I find War Emergency Power? I’ve looked in controls but I can find it.

Shift+B in default key mapping.

[Jackfraser24]

9 hours ago, dannytherat said:

Shift+B in default key mapping.

Thank you. But I did that. And I was still 100 km too slow! Is there something I am missing?

[dannytherat]

My advice would be to start at least 5000ft higher than the V-1, operating in a fairly high speed cruise (so you'll be at 10000ft or so and going quite quickly at the time you sight the V-1).

 

When you see a V-1 you feel like you might have a chance to catch, give the engine all the power you can, turning gently onto the V-1's tail in a shallow dive, going as fast as possible for as long as possible to close the distance sufficiently to open fire on it - and even then accept that you may not be able to catch it.

 

Also be aware that if you destroy them with gunfire they go off with a big bang which might ruin your day.

[Jackfraser24]

7 hours ago, dannytherat said:

My advice would be to start at least 5000ft higher than the V-1, operating in a fairly high speed cruise (so you'll be at 10000ft or so and going quite quickly at the time you sight the V-1).

 

When you see a V-1 you feel like you might have a chance to catch, give the engine all the power you can, turning gently onto the V-1's tail in a shallow dive, going as fast as possible for as long as possible to close the distance sufficiently to open fire on it - and even then accept that you may not be able to catch it.

 

Also be aware that if you destroy them with gunfire they go off with a big bang which might ruin your day.

Thanks. I’ll remember that!

[jollyjack]

On 12/4/2022 at 12:53 PM, Raptorattacker said:

Come in from above, see where the trajectory is on the latest radar report and diagonally cross the flight path and you shaould have some joy. I did.

You gotta remember that these things, while small and a little hard to ID at first, only fly in a dead straight line but they do so very fast.

 

Radar report; how can you see or activate that?

[Raptorattacker]

14 minutes ago, jollyjack said:

Radar report; how can you see or activate that?

What?

The radar report comes in automatically when you're on that QMB. You then look at the report on the map and see which direction the bomb is moving in. It's a 'report', it doesn't ttell you WHERE it is, it tells you WHIVH DIRECTION it's moving in so you have to think ahead and intercept.

[jollyjack]

Ah, so it is really a sport; you know there's fish, but now guess where along the migration route. 

[Gingerwelsh]

Radar will paint a picture on the map.

You know where it's going,  you're at the same speed, so draw a line in you head for an intercept.

Stay high till you see it, then shallow dive.

You don't need to get close, i've destroyed V-1s up to 1000 yards with a Typhoon, but if you do, they have very little splash damage, so you won't get hurt.

 

Mosquito going for a wing tip.

 

 

 

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[jollyjack]

Can you get that indication on the map with a self made mission?

[Gingerwelsh]

39 minutes ago, jollyjack said:

Can you get that indication on the map with a self made mission?

 

I would guess you can, but I don't know how.

 

If you're making your own mission, consider this-

The higher the altitude the V-1 is placed, the slower it goes.

The higher the altitude the aircraft is placed, the faster it goes.

 

There is a cross over point where the plane is faster than the V-1. For the Mossie, it's about 5000'.

 

GL.

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[LukeFF]

How often have people ended up successfully intercepting a V1 in career mode? We've given chase to a few a couple of times, but every time we've ended up with nothing to show for our efforts (P-51B).

[jollyjack]

That sucks, accomplishing doing that successfully should be rewarded as ++++ !

[Gingerwelsh]

6 hours ago, LukeFF said:

How often have people ended up successfully intercepting a V1 in career mode? We've given chase to a few a couple of times, but every time we've ended up with nothing to show for our efforts (P-51B).

 

You're not trying hard enough. ?

 

316 Squadron, Friston. 1st day.

Intercept at 2000'.

 

 

 

 

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[Talon_]

On 12/10/2022 at 3:41 AM, Jaegermeister said:

There were still V1s and V2s launched against Belgium and specifically Antwerp into 1945. The RAF chased them with Spitfires and Tempests

 

 

I don't think that's true, the defence of the lowlands from the V-1 menace was carried out entirely by flak due to risk to the aircrews if chasing.

[Gingerwelsh]

6 minutes ago, Talon_ said:

 

I don't think that's true, the defence of the lowlands from the V-1 menace was carried out entirely by flak due to risk to the aircrews if chasing.

Correct.

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[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, Gingerwelsh said:

You're not trying hard enough. ?

 

316 Squadron, Friston. 1st day.

Intercept at 2000'.

 

I guess so! ? Well, I'll keep on trying, then. Last night I flew two missions where we gave chase to two of them but came up empty. ☹️

[migmadmarine]

I got a couple in the beta, but only ever succeeded in intercepting them with Icons on since I can't spot them worth a damn

[Gingerwelsh]

On 12/12/2022 at 4:55 PM, LukeFF said:

 

I guess so! ? Well, I'll keep on trying, then. Last night I flew two missions where we gave chase to two of them but came up empty. ☹️

Bare in mind, at 2000' they are at their fastest, (410mph). The best I can get from a Mustang is 405mph at that alt, so it's all in the timing of the dive.

 

316 Squadron, Friston.

 

1st day, 2nd mission.

Intercept at 2000'.

 

Slight overshoot.

 

Go back up again.

 

Boom.

 

 

Day 2, 8/8/44.

 

1st mission.

V-1s are flying at 8,200' which means they are much slower. (372mph TAS) and easier to catch, which resulted in 2 V-1 kills.

 

2nd mission. 1 V-1 at 5200'.

 

3rd mission. 1 V-1 at 2000'.

 

4th mission. 1 V-1 at 6,600'. 1 V-1 at 8,250'.

 

Admiring the clean lines of the V-1.

 

 

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Edited December 14, 2022 by Gingerwelsh
Updated.

[AndyJWest]

Back in the day, I made a V-1 practice intercept mission for IL-2 '46, which basically fired one every minute or two, from one of several launchers, as long as the mission ran. The missiles were routed fairly close together, so you could just sit over their anticipated flight path and pounce when you spotted one you had a good chance of catching. I don't know if the same idea is feasible in IL-2 GB, but it might be worth a try, for anyone having problems either spotting or intercepting.

[Jackfraser24]

Right we’ve got no other option. If we can’t get fast enough…bring forth the Lightning…II (F-35).

[LukeFF]

Well, I'm just having the worst of luck trying to intercept these things. A few more missions since the other day, and all we do is just fly around the patrol zone, maybe give some half hearted attention to one V1, but that's it. 

 

Are you all just ditching your flight leader when a radar contact comes in and going after the V1s on your own? The AI flight leaders are decidedly passive in wanting to go after these things, it seems. ?

Edited December 17, 2022 by LukeFF

[BlitzPig_EL]

Luke, the AI are numpties.

 

Always have been.

[Gingerwelsh]

6 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Well, I'm just having the worst of luck trying to intercept these things. A few more missions since the other day, and all we do is just fly around the patrol zone, maybe give some half hearted attention to one V1, but that's it. 

 

Are you all just ditching your flight leader when a radar contact comes in and going after the V1s on your own? The AI flight leaders are decidedly passive in wanting to go after these things, it seems. ?

 

I'm on my third day with 316 squadron and have totted 12 kiills so far.

I fly as Commander but in 2nd position and do my own thing.

The Ai Tempsts in the Dover patrol are very aggressive and will chase and kill my own targets, about 5 so far, so will my leader.

 

My last mission I was bounced by a large group of 109s but as I was doing nearly 500 mph whilst chasing a low V-1, I left them in the dust.

Exciting stuff. I'm really enjoying it.

 

I flew dozens of AQMB for practice, mostly wing tipping.

I set up a mission with V-1s at different altitudes to note their different speeds and their relationship with Spitfire/Tempest/Mustang and Mosquito.

Now I have started a Career with 316 from Friston, flying 3 or 4 missions per day.

 

When you get a radar contact, you know where it is, you know where it's going, fly an intercept course whilst maintaining altitude, then dive on it.

In real life they attacked from the quarter at short range, but we don't have to do that.

 

GL.

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[LukeFF]

21 minutes ago, Gingerwelsh said:

 

I'm on my third day with 316 squadron and have totted 12 kiills so far.

I fly as Commander but in 2nd position and do my own thing.

The Ai Tempsts in the Dover patrol are very aggressive and will chase and kill my own targets, about 5 so far, so will my leader.

 

My last mission I was bounced by a large group of 109s but as I was doing nearly 500 mph whilst chasing a low V-1, I left them in the dust.

Exciting stuff. I'm really enjoying it.

 

I flew dozens of AQMB for practice, mostly wing tipping.

I set up a mission with V-1s at different altitudes to note their different speeds and their relationship with Spitfire/Tempest/Mustang and Mosquito.

Now I have started a Career with 316 from Friston, flying 3 or 4 missions per day.

 

When you get a radar contact, you know where it is, you know where it's going, fly an intercept course whilst maintaining altitude, then dive on it.

In real life they attacked from the quarter at short range, but we don't have to do that.

 

GL.

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Okay, thanks. ?? It sounds like I should change my strategy a bit, because so far I am just not seeing any chases by the AI against V1s. 15 missions into this career (also from Friston), and I have 0 tallies on my record. Heck, we've never even fired at one yet.

 

I think part of it is that, according to the developers, the AI is just programmed to fly waypoints within the patrol zone and will only go after a V1 if they have visual contact with it. It won't do anything fancy like plot an intercept course. 

Edited December 17, 2022 by LukeFF

[Gingerwelsh]

22 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Okay, thanks. ?? It sounds like I should change my strategy a bit, because so far I am just not seeing any chases by the AI against V1s. 15 missions into this career (also from Friston), and I have 0 tallies on my record. Heck, we've never even fired at one yet.

 

I think part of it is that, according to the developers, the AI is just programmed to fly waypoints within the patrol zone and will only go after a V1 if they have visual contact with it. It won't do anything fancy like plot an Intercept course. 

 

In my 2nd mission 3rd day, I'd shot down 2 and was going for my first 3rd over Dover, but with no altitude it was taking a long time to speed up.

2 Tempests from the bulls eye passed overhead on the attack but peeled off in a zoom, great, this is my chance.

Now closing in for my first 3 kill, I couldn't peddle any faster and the Tempests came down from altitude and it was all over.

 

I will have to look at the replay to see what actually happened.

 

What actually happened.

2 Tempests beat me to the table.

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Edited December 18, 2022 by Gingerwelsh

[LukeFF]

4 minutes ago, Gingerwelsh said:

 

In my 2nd mission 3rd day, I'd shot down 2 and was going for my first 3rd over Dover, but with no altitude it was taking a long time to speed up.

2 Tempests from the bulls eye passed overhead on the attack but peeled off in a zoom, great, this is my chance.

Now closing in for my first 3 kill, I couldn't peddle any faster and the Tempests came down from altitude and it was all over.

 

I will have to look at the replay to see what actually happened.

 

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Jealous! ?

[Irishratticus72]

ThIs ToTtAlLy HaPpEnEd!

[LukeFF]

Close, but not quite there...

 

So, tonight I had a mission where the AI flight leader actually did spot and give chase to a V1, and I spotted it shortly after him. Great, finally, my streak of futility will be over!

 

Well, not quite. I pushed the engine to the limit but could never close the gap enough. I fired off a few bursts in vain and in the end, I had to sulk as it dove on its intended target. ?

 

So, close yet so far... ?

[Gingerwelsh]

8 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Close, but not quite there...

 

So, tonight I had a mission where the AI flight leader actually did spot and give chase to a V1, and I spotted it shortly after him. Great, finally, my streak of futility will be over!

 

Well, not quite. I pushed the engine to the limit but could never close the gap enough. I fired off a few bursts in vain and in the end, I had to sulk as it dove on its intended target. ?

 

So, close yet so far... ?

Remain at altitude when chasing.

You can do 430+mph, easily enough to catch the bugger and then keep 500mph dive speed in your back pocket.

 

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[LukeFF]

41 minutes ago, Gingerwelsh said:

Remain at altitude when chasing.

You can do 430+mph, easily enough to catch the bugger and then keep 500mph dive speed in your back pocket.

 

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Yep, by the time I saw it, I'd lost all my altitude advantage, so the best I could do at sea level was about 400 mph.

[IckyATLAS]

Can a P47 catch and destroy a V-1 ?