New HTC Vive "Flowcus"

[chiliwili69]

 

The pancake lenses with the diopter correction are interesting.

Also the option for connection to PCVR via USB-C will give a lot of flexibility for Standalone & PCVR games.

Let´s see what they announce finally, but it looks like a very light device mixing Vive Flow and Vive Focus features.

In any case, looking to the lenses, I doubt they will offer a wider FOV than Index. That´s really a pitty

 

Two years ago I was thinking in reddit about giving some modularity and putting battery in the back. Two years later it is good to see all standalone devices are putting battery at the back (Pico4, QuestPro, Flowcus, future Quest3) and Pimax Crystal also putting in the back and removable.

 

Apart from Meta and Bytedance, it is good to have companies like HTC, Valve and Pimax going Standalone form but giving also the flexibility to uncompressed PCVR.

[dburne]

On 11/16/2022 at 4:07 AM, chiliwili69 said:

 

The pancake lenses with the diopter correction are interesting.

Also the option for connection to PCVR via USB-C will give a lot of flexibility for Standalone & PCVR games.

Let´s see what they announce finally, but it looks like a very light device mixing Vive Flow and Vive Focus features.

In any case, looking to the lenses, I doubt they will offer a wider FOV than Index. That´s really a pitty

 

Two years ago I was thinking in reddit about giving some modularity and putting battery in the back. Two years later it is good to see all standalone devices are putting battery at the back (Pico4, QuestPro, Flowcus, future Quest3) and Pimax Crystal also putting in the back and removable.

 

Apart from Meta and Bytedance, it is good to have companies like HTC, Valve and Pimax going Standalone form but giving also the flexibility to uncompressed PCVR.

 

Personally I do not see companies going to stand alone for being a good thing, especially as I do not do stand alone gaming.

Meta/Oculus started this crap and now that is where most of the focus is. Other companies starting to follow them like sheep.

I still have five VR headsets and each of them are dedicated PC-VR headsets. Nothing wrong with stand alone if that is your thing and yeah nice it can be band aided to also do PC-VR, but that is not for me.

 

Edit: Let me clarify though - if stand alone is that big and growing the VR industry overall then yes that is a good thing for VR, just not for me.

 

Edited November 17, 2022 by dburne

[chiliwili69]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

Personally I do not see companies going to stand alone for being a good thing

 

Me neither, I am a PCVR guy.

The problem for meta is that they don´t make money with PCVR software. They want people to buy in their stores and their exclusive contents. Create like another kind of Steam store but named Meta.

If people just buy the subsidized Quest2 (from August 100$ less subsidized) and spend their money buying VR games in Steam or in any other PC game store (like IL2 or many other games), then that´s not a business for them

That´s the reason they are forcing all of us and the market to go there.

And Bytedance with the Pico4 is doing exactly the same.

There is no technical reason for not providing a DP/HDMI connection (either through DP/HDMI cable or throuhg USB-C) without compression.

 

Fortunately Pimax Crystal is going in the right direction and will provide DP connection. But we will pay for the extra chips/bateries that we will not use.

Valve will for sure for the future Deckard will provide DP since their store is based in PC.

And it looks like HTC is also gogin in that direction.

 

So not all of us are in the hands of Meta or Bytedance.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

Me neither, I am a PCVR guy.

The problem for meta is that they don´t make money with PCVR software. They want people to buy in their stores and their exclusive contents. Create like another kind of Steam store but named Meta.

If people just buy the subsidized Quest2 (from August 100$ less subsidized) and spend their money buying VR games in Steam or in any other PC game store (like IL2 or many other games), then that´s not a business for them

That´s the reason they are forcing all of us and the market to go there.

And Bytedance with the Pico4 is doing exactly the same.

There is no technical reason for not providing a DP/HDMI connection (either through DP/HDMI cable or throuhg USB-C) without compression.

 

Fortunately Pimax Crystal is going in the right direction and will provide DP connection. But we will pay for the extra chips/bateries that we will not use.

Valve will for sure for the future Deckard will provide DP since their store is based in PC.

And it looks like HTC is also gogin in that direction.

 

So not all of us are in the hands of Meta or Bytedance.

 

Pimax I will never buy from, just a personal thing on my end. I don't care how good it looks or sounds. Valve or HTC yeah but they would have to be better than what I have currently. Especially if it was Valve doing it, I would love to see that.

 

[Capt_Hook]

I'd love for Valve to put out an Index with better resolution.  The Reverb G2 isn't bad and has fantastic clarity, but the Index had better FOV and didn't rely on either Microsoft Mixed Reality or an OpenVR workaround.  The controllers are also far better, though that's not relevant for most sims.  

Edited November 21, 2022 by Capt_Hook