sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Han mentioned they plan to announce two more collectors for the earlier period in about 4 weeks. If I got that correctly from the stream. Let the speculation begin ? My bet would be on two double-deckers for BoM, BoS and maybe even BoK period: I-153 and Hs-123 8
migmadmarine Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Didn't he say they they would be variants of things we have already, or was that referring to a broader goal? Those seem like more than variants to me. Maybe an earlier Stuka and a backdate of a LaGG or Yak for BoM? Or perhaps it is time for the A-20G... 1
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 As much as I'd love an I-15 or Hs-123, I'm pretty sure he said they're variants. I'm rooting for P-38F and Ju-87B, myself. 3 3
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, migmadmarine said: Those seem like more than variants to me. Maybe an earlier Stuka and a backdate of a LaGG or Yak for BoM? Or perhaps it is time for the A-20G... Ahh, maybe I missed the "variants" part. Thanks for bursting my bubble ? 2
Chief_Mouser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, ww2fighter20 said: P40B/C and Mc200 maybe? I-153 and Ju87B. Edited November 9, 2022 by Chief_Mouser 1 1
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, ww2fighter20 said: P40B/C and Mc200 maybe? If we count the C.200 as a variant of the C.202, could be. I'd go for a C.200 since it saw more Eastern Front action than the 202 I believe. I suppose you could really stretch the point and call the I-153 a variant of the I-16, but I think that's wishful thinking.
migmadmarine Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Would love to see both of those biplanes but yea I don't think they fit the brief
Raptorattacker Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I-153 DEFINITELY gets THIS cookie's approval!!! 1
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Hotaru_Ito said: I suppose you could really stretch the point and call the I-153 a variant of the I-16, but I think that's wishful thinking. No no, the I-153 is an I-16 variant. Also in my book. I keep my fingers crossed for that one ? 7 minutes ago, Raptorattacker said: I-153 DEFINITELY gets THIS cookie's approval!!! Yep. I like cookies ? 4 minutes ago, CountZero said: Its 100% , Bf-109E4 and Yak-1 Early Yak-1 early and Lagg-3 early would make sense and could be used on other maps as well. 109E4 not so much. Edited November 9, 2022 by sevenless 1 1
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, sevenless said: No no, the I-153 is an I-16 variant. Also in my book. I keep my fingers crossed for that one ? Yep. I like cookies ? Hope you're right, I've been wishing we had an I-15 since forever. 2
Raptorattacker Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Hotaru_Ito said: I suppose you could really stretch the point and call the I-153 a variant of the I-16, but I think that's wishful thinking. More specifically the I-16 was a progression and not a variant of the former if we're neing honest. Edited November 9, 2022 by Raptorattacker 1
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Raptorattacker said: More specifically the I-16 was a progression and not a variant of the former if we're neing honest. Of course, likewise for the C.200 and the C.202, but here we just mean "what counts as a variant for development purposes."
Voyager Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I'd think a C.200 would be more likely than a P-40B/C. The Tomahawks were significantly different planes than the later Kittyhawks, to the point that Curtiss designated them as different planes. It would be nice to have some more of the LaGG-3 and Yak-1 versions for the early war stuff, and some of the later La-5FN models for the late war stuff.
Alexmarine Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I wouldn't be surprised if one ends up being an early Spit Mk.IX with engine mods to make it 1942/1944 available
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alexmarine said: I wouldn't be surprised if one ends up being an early Spit Mk.IX with engine mods to make it 1942/1944 available True. A Spitfire LF Mk. IXC would perfectly fit into BoN and BoBP. Could very well be the case. 3 1
CUJO_1970 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 If it's an early variant there is absolutely nothing more important on the Russian side than the I-153. 3
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, spreckair said: Spitfire Mk.I and Hurricane Mk.I? ? Doubt it, but you bet I'd buy them if it was.
CUJO_1970 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, sevenless said: Han mentioned they plan to announce two more collectors for the earlier period in about 4 weeks. If I got that correctly from the stream. Let the speculation begin ? Going back to the stream, "earlier" could refer in /context to the particular question being answered/ not to earlier war period but to theaters that have already been completed "earlier" i.e - anything already finished. 1
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said: Going back to the stream, "earlier" could refer in /context to the particular question being answered/ not to earlier war period but to theaters that have already been completed "earlier" i.e - anything already finished. I see. Then that would open up even more possibilities. Fw190-A9 and Bf-109-G10 being only two of them. 1
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, sevenless said: I see. Then that would open up even more possibilities. Fw190-A9 and Bf-109-G10 being only two of them. The interesting thing about that is it would almost totally rule out a future East '45 module, since there would be basically no late war 109 left for the German side of such a module, or 190 unless you count the Ta-152 or one of the later Doras.
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Hotaru_Ito said: The interesting thing about that is it would almost totally rule out a future East '45 module, since there would be basically no late war 109 left for the German side of such a module, or 190 unless you count the Ta-152 or one of the later Doras. I know, but after today I really doubt we will see any 1944-45 VVS planes in the next 5 years.
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, sevenless said: I know, but after today I really doubt we will see any 1944-45 VVS planes in the next 5 years. True. Still hoping a collector Yak-3 or La-7 might sneak in at some point though. We did get the Yak-9 and 9T a while back so it's not totally out of the question. 1
CUJO_1970 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, sevenless said: I see. Then that would open up even more possibilities. Fw190-A9 and Bf-109-G10 being only two of them. Don't tease me please, it's not polite ?
sevenless Posted November 9, 2022 Author Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said: Don't tease me please, it's not polite ? Lol. They would perfectly fit into Bodenplatte as would Fw-190- D11 and D13 and Bf-109 G14/AS ? Edited November 9, 2022 by sevenless 2
Roger_Meatball Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I would pay them $30 for an I-153. I want it so bad. 1 1
percydanvers Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Wonder if Ta-152 would have a chance. I would argue that it is a "variant" in the same way that the Tempest is a Typhoon variant. A clear design evolution that just happens to be given a different name for various bureaucratic reasons.
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, percydanvers said: Wonder if Ta-152 would have a chance. I would argue that it is a "variant" in the same way that the Tempest is a Typhoon variant. A clear design evolution that just happens to be given a different name for various bureaucratic reasons. I think we can realistically count "technically a different plane" options like Ta-152, C.200, and maybe even I-153 as possibilities. Right now my bet is C.200 and Ju-87B, but I'd love to be wrong and get an I-153 instead of either. Or a P-38F if we're sticking to the strict definition of "variant."
MAJ_stug41 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) They intend to expand the staff, and the bubble spit is a first run for a new guy as it is based on an existing model. Perhaps a couple of the new staff are being used for the same purpose as well. They say 'early war', so that removes the 152, and the 152 serves no role presently anyway because nothing is at 8k fighting. What is early war? Up to winter 42-43? They must key in to the modules we already have as well. I think it is also unlikely that they are variants of collector planes, so doubtful it is p40c or mc200. 110 F to fill the gap? Minor body changes, uses a slightly better engine than E. A long desired A20G doesnt make the cut for time to be operational during of winter 42-43. Same story for p39Q. Amusingly ju88c5 makes the cut, swap the c6 jumos for bmws and drop the gondola. Edit p38f of course would he cool. Edited November 9, 2022 by stug41
AndyJWest Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I want a Ju-52 on floats. Probably not going to get it, but I want it... 3
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stug41 said: They intend to expand the staff, and the bubble spit is a first run for a new guy as it is based on an existing model. Perhaps a couple of the new staff are being used for the same purpose as well. They say 'early war', so that removes the 152, and the 152 serves no role presently anyway because nothing is at 8k fighting. What is early war? Up to winter 42-43? They must key in to the modules we already have as well. I think it is also unlikely that they are variants of collector planes, so doubtful it is p40c or mc200. 110 F to fill the gap? Minor body changes, uses a slightly better engine than E. A long desired A20G doesnt make the cut for time to be operational during of winter 42-43. Same story for p39Q. Amusingly ju88c5 makes the cut, swap the c6 jumos for bmws and drop the gondola. Edit p38f of course would he cool. I think it BoM DLC period when they say early war. Something they can use in its SP career. Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero
MAJ_stug41 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, CountZero said: I think it BoM DLC period when they say early war. Something they can use in its SP career. Mmhm, would like to see that era filled out. 109E4 would easily fit, but not really add much. I16, I15, variants would be great. Things I would very much like for that era like Su2 and SB series, doubt they are desired, and they dont have any base models in game presently.
migmadmarine Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Isn't the 109E-4 essentially the E-7 without drop tank plumbing? 1
Hotaru_Ito Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, stug41 said: They say 'early war', so that removes the 152, and the 152 serves no role presently anyway because nothing is at 8k fighting. What is early war? Up to winter 42-43? Sounded to me like they meant "earlier modules" not "earlier in the war." So that doesn't really rule out late stuff like Ta-152, 109G-10, etc. 2
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, migmadmarine said: Isn't the 109E-4 essentially the E-7 without drop tank plumbing? Yes, perfect fit for when fuel menagment and DT are not planed ? add Yak-1 early to it and you have win combo Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero
Avimimus Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Variants only eh...? Mustang Mk.I, A-20G, Ju-87D5, Pe-3, P-39Q, LaGG variants, Tomahawk (P-40B/C), Fw-190A4, torpedo carrying variants of existing aircraft (e.g. Ju-88A4/Torp). I think the Yak-9B is a bit late? What am I missing? 34 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: I want a Ju-52 on floats. Probably not going to get it, but I want it... Makes sense to me. I could see them waiting until they redo the floatplane physics for old RoF aircraft and then possibly giving us the Ar-196 and Ju-52 floatplanes at the same time though... I have a feeling they'd want to do the floatplanes/seaplanes all at once. 3 hours ago, Raptorattacker said: I-153 DEFINITELY gets THIS cookie's approval!!! Yeah, it'd be great for Moscow and Kuban.
56RAF_Stickz Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, Avimimus said: Variants only eh...? What am I missing? any mosquito bomber variant 3
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