Now what?

[9./JG52_J-HAT]

Loved the Yak-3 in old Il-2. Flew VVS only back then. Late war Eastern Front is alright for me.

Italy and Greece would be better though.

[Fritz_X]

35 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said:

BON was released on time and all the Collector Planes, Vehicles and modules with preorders started will be completed and released.

1CGS is still producing hardcore flight sims and Jason's departure doesn't affect the development schedule in any way.

Moreover, the development of the next project has already started as it was stated several times in Russian and English interview and podcast.

 

Thanks for the update, Wardog.

 

Not going to lie: I feel that the GB series will come to a closure, soon. Maybe I'm just reading into things too much, but the way certain things are worded (see the bold parts) to me sounds like they'll be switching over to something completely new.

 

I hope the devs will prove me wrong, by the way.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Fritz_X

[AEthelraedUnraed]

33 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said:

Hello Pilots,

I know that there is a great deal of uncertainty for some of you as to the future of the IL-2 franchise. I will try to help ease some of that anxiety.

First and foremost, as he mentioned in his video, Jason actually left 1CGS back in late summer. BON was released on time and all the Collector Planes, Vehicles and modules with preorders started will be completed and released.

1CGS is still producing hardcore flight sims and Jason's departure doesn't affect the development schedule in any way.

Moreover, the development of the next project has already started as it was stated several times in Russian and English interview and podcast.

More info on the next development cycle will be shared in our Dev Blogs, streams etc.

And for those concerned about current events affecting anything, it does not. 1CGS is not affected by any sanctions.

And there will be a stream event next week with the development team that should provide much more detail on the path forward. The exact date is still TBD based on production completion.

Thanks! This certainly takes away some of my anxiety, although it naturally remains a scary time with much uncertainty as to what the future brings. Looking forward to the stream next week (giving the wording, I assume this is some kind of announcement stream on the next module?).

 

Incidentally, is there already an English translation available of the Russian-language stream last week?

[76SQN-Minimayhemtemp]

38 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said:

Hello Pilots,

I know that there is a great deal of uncertainty for some of you as to the future of the IL-2 franchise. I will try to help ease some of that anxiety.

First and foremost, as he mentioned in his video, Jason actually left 1CGS back in late summer. BON was released on time and all the Collector Planes, Vehicles and modules with preorders started will be completed and released.

1CGS is still producing hardcore flight sims and Jason's departure doesn't affect the development schedule in any way.

Moreover, the development of the next project has already started as it was stated several times in Russian and English interview and podcast.

More info on the next development cycle will be shared in our Dev Blogs, streams etc.

And for those concerned about current events affecting anything, it does not. 1CGS is not affected by any sanctions.

And there will be a stream event next week with the development team that should provide much more detail on the path forward. The exact date is still TBD based on production completion.

 

Has there been a commitment to fix the FC DM/FM issues that is seriously impacting the playability of that part of the spend?

[Robli]

42 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

Young Smithy gave me a week's ban back in May for theorizing about 1C and it's operations in the current political climate; now these same ideas and speculations are being posted with apparent impunity.

 

My post of similar nature got deleted from the first page of "Where is Jason" thread, but there was no ban.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Robli

[simfan2015]

IMHO the IL-2 Sturmovik GB francise has delivered all that could be expected of it.

The name itself (it never changed) though could indicate the aim of what it was to be(-come).

If e.g.  'Sturmovik'  goes PTO, Korea ... then how can this be integrated into the greater scheme of GB battles ?

Flying a corsair or zero over Germany, or sailing that carrier in the North Sea ? ... don't think this might be a good idea !? 

That new project *could* be a departure from what we now know and love ... if so then maybe for the better.

Edited October 26, 2022 by simfan2015

[Trooper117]

Er, what?...

[Guest deleted@83466]

Wardog’s statement basically says:  Everything is fine, Jason’s departure had no impact, economic climate, no problem.  Business as usual.  I guess that is an official statement.

[tattywelshie]

4 hours ago, 76SQN-Minimayhemtemp said:

Why on earth are people speculating on the next iteration in the series when there are so many things outstanding in terms of both enhancements, major releases and bug fixes? The mind boggles at how often there are speculative threads about whether we'll see the next theature in russia, italy, the pacific, korea, when we still have FC2, FC3 and FC4 already comitted to and unreleased, FM/DM issues in FC that need fixing and collector planes waiting to be released. 

 

I say let the teams focus on getting things they have already comitted to out the door, screw the next theature until then.

 

Rather selfishly I want to fly my SE5 without its wings coming off due to a passing pidgeon farting on it and fly around a map that I paid for months ago.

I totally agree with this. I'd rather them turn around and say "we are committed to finishing the development of xyz as soon as possible, and then will start work on the next module" There are so many things outstanding which have already been mentioned that I think sort of dotting the i's and dotting the t's would definitely be welcomed by many. 

[CountZero]

23 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Wardog’s statement basically says:  Everything is fine, Jason’s departure had no impact, economic climate, no problem.  Business as usual.  I guess that is an official statement.

I think i saw few pictures of that type of statement online ?

 

[moustache]

15 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Wardog’s statement basically says:  Everything is fine, Jason’s departure had no impact, economic climate, no problem.  Business as usual.  I guess that is an official statement.

When you say that, I think of this:

49 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

sounds like they'll be switching over to something completely new.

if so, I hope at least the bugs will be fixed before he leaves the ship...

[Wardog5711]

Quote

Has there been a commitment to fix the FC DM/FM issues that is seriously impacting the playability of that part of the spend?

There was an internal engineering meeting on Monday to look at the FC wing data that was provided and discuss how to best approach it.

I was not given any fixed timeline, but the data has been looked at and it is being discussed. I'll try to get more details from engineering for you.

[kendo]

43 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Wardog’s statement basically says:  Everything is fine, Jason’s departure had no impact, economic climate, no problem.  Business as usual.  I guess that is an official statement.

 

When they don't communicate everyone demands they say something so we can be informed and (hopefully) reassured. 

 

When they say something, people discount it as PR spiel and continue to believe what they already thought before.

 

A small percentage of people believe the Earth is flat. People find reasons to believe whatever they want. 

 

Next thing on the agenda - a conspiracy theory. I blame the Freemasons personally.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by kendo

[Robli]

11 minutes ago, kendo said:

A small percentage of people believe the Earth is flat. People find reasons to believe whatever they want. 

Next thing on the agenda - a conspiracy theory. I blame the Freemasons personally.

 

Yes, because in reality nothing special has happened lately in Europe, especially not related to Russia. News are just full of Freemasons spreading some conspiracy theories.

[moustache]

6 minutes ago, Robli said:

News are just full of Freemasons spreading some conspiracy theories.

there is a beginning of reflection, but it's a little simplistic, without wanting to offend you: everyone knows that the freemasons are manipulated by the crab men in association with the reptilians through Big Pharma thanks to the nanoparticles of bill gates vaccine against the virus made by the chinese in the name of the new world order

[Wardog5711]

Careful lads, we are about to drift into dangerous waters.

 

 

[kendo]

49 minutes ago, Robli said:

 

Yes, because in reality nothing special has happened lately in Europe, especially not related to Russia. News are just full of Freemasons spreading some conspiracy theories.

 

A lot has happened. And maybe Jason's leaving is connected with the wider difficulties of the world political situation.

 

We don't know and haven't been told.

 

We do know he has left.

 

And we have been told that they know what the next module is and are in the early stages of work on it. We've been told they will complete all announced collector aircraft, etc.

 

But the choice of whether to believe that or not comes back to the individual. We really don't know anything for certain.

 

Surely the sensible thing - maybe the only thing - is to be patient and see what happens. Give it time - things will become clear.

 

...or build yourself into a state of panic and indignation over the worst that may occur. Don't see the point of that personally...but knock yourself out if that's your choice.  

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Kendo, I doubt any responsible adults are “panicking” over a video game!  I hope not?.  It’s just gossip among people who like to talk on a forum.  But that gossip will continue as long as the official line is apparently “move on folks, nothing to see here.”  

[Trooper117]

I have no reason to believe that the snippets of information they have given us has any BS in it... what I can't believe is their lackadaisical attitude to the big event we have just recently learned of.

Jason leaving is no small thing... he was, in this English speaking forum our main point of contact with the game, let alone it's Executive Producer. 

The ''don't worry, all is ok, business as usual, we'll let you know a bit more info in a few days''  is pretty unbelievable.

 

[ICDP]

People need to realise that in order to make core improvements, you need to generate income.  This inevitably means there will be a steady stream of collectable planes/tanks and even new modules to entice people to spend their money.

 

A small sim dev team sitting around focusing on core improvements to FM, DM or engine managment etc, will very soon run out of money.  Bug fixes and improvements are nice, but they do not generate enough income to sustain a project like this.

 

I will miss Jason more than most here, I owe him a lot and have a lot of time for the guy.  Having said that there will be future developments to this sim.

 

 

[Rjel]

While we can continue to play the sim offline as it is right now, should there be major changes that adversely affect the sim in the uncertain future, we could only hope that fixes would be forth coming. I'm pretty happy with the WWII portion of the game right now so I think I'll back up the current version and keep it squirreled away so I can hopefully have a game to fly comes what may down the road. 

[Zeev]

22 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Now what?  I say enjoy what is already there, which is impressive.  Assuming incremental changes don’t screw up the existing content, it ought to last for years to come.  I don’t have any expectations for any future content, and I assume any next full module will be several years in the future anyway, if it actually happens.

 

 

And thats why its always a bad thing having always online feature also for single player and an auto updater.

Edited October 26, 2022 by Zeev

[JGr2/J5_Hotlead]

2 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

There was an internal engineering meeting on Monday to look at the FC wing data that was provided and discuss how to best approach it.

I was not given any fixed timeline, but the data has been looked at and it is being discussed. I'll try to get more details from engineering for you.

Thank you so much for acknowledging this and letting us know that the team is looking at it! We sincerely appreciate the transparent communication. 

 

While Jason leaving is sad (and I sincerely wish him the best), it is encouraging to know that the team is still moving forward with this awesome series.

[Irishratticus72]

I'm gonna throw a curve ball here, but maybe, this could lead to a revolution, not evolution of the whole franchise, new engine, let's face it, as good as it looks, it's dated, and it could also mean a fresh direction entirely? That's my hot take, but then again, I've always been an optimistic bugger.

1 hour ago, Wardog5711 said:

Careful lads, we are about to drift into dangerous waters.

 

 

We pride ourselves on having no politics on the island of Ireland, ever.

[Voidhunger]

Hi Wardog, can you please find out if they are planning to do a TC2 or if there are any new plans for TC except the two collector vehicles?

Thanks

[BladeMeister]

1 hour ago, ICDP said:

A small sim dev team sitting around focusing on core improvements to FM, DM or engine managment etc, will very soon run out of money.  Bug fixes and improvements are nice, but they do not generate enough income to sustain a project like this.

I understand this and I don't disagree with what you are saying, but when these bugs start effecting the customer's game play in a pretty much Community recognized and unacceptable manner, then the Devs begin to run the risk of losing future sales of new and even old product to their core customer base.  I understand the revenue stream, but at some point the Devs are going to have to publicly commit to correcting the major bugs for what their loyal customers have already purchased. If I cannot have fun with the FC and TC products because of major bugs then I have already decided that I will not early access any more offerings from 1C.

It is time for the Devs to bite the bullet and correct the top 5-10 glaringly obvious bugs and get TGBS back on track as one of the best Combat Flight Sims. That's my take of where this ship needs to go.

 

S!Blade<><

[[CPT]Crunch]

Way to emotionally invested for some, take a walk outdoors if you can, if you can't than I might sort of understand it some, don't think even Jason ever went that far. 

 

Everyone is replaceable and every ride must eventually come to an end, just because the man left such an indelible mark on your favorite game don't mean its all come to an end right now, new Normandy is fantastic, a bushel of new planes in the pipe, and plenty new talent has shown up on an expanding team as of late.

 

Give them the dignity of a chance to catch their breath, and take one yourself.  Pretty confident Jason left it in good hands, just the way the man rolls.  Let him go in peace, he earned it. 

[Gambit21]

This is the second “now don’t panic, remain calm, don’t get emotional” post in thread comprised mostly of calm, non-panicked, level-headed posts.

[CUJO_1970]

Gambit calm down man! Hold it together!

[Vig]

Il2-1946 was a great game -

Follow-up IL2 game released as buggy nightmare -

RoF was a great game by Jason -

Current game made great by Jason -

Jason is gone.

 

ERGO

 

What is Jason's forwarding address?

 

 

 

[Rjel]

On 10/26/2022 at 4:07 PM, Vig said:

Il2-1946 was a great game -

Follow-up IL2 game released as buggy nightmare -

RoF was a great game by Jason -

Current game made great by Jason -

Jason is gone.

 

ERGO

 

What is Jason's forwarding address?

 

 

 

 

On 10/26/2022 at 4:07 PM, Vig said:

Il2-1946 was a great game -

Follow-up IL2 game released as buggy nightmare -

RoF was a great game by Jason -

Current game made great by Jason -

Jason is gone.

 

ERGO

 

What is Jason's forwarding address?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Faux Pas. Bad poster. Bad.

 

edit: Just to clarify, my comment to Vig was because he had originally posted the same thing twice, since edited. Being a smarta$$, I saw an opportunity to showcase that ability. I wasn't making a comment on the content of Vig's post.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Rjel

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

5 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

There was an internal engineering meeting on Monday to look at the FC wing data that was provided and discuss how to best approach it.

I was not given any fixed timeline, but the data has been looked at and it is being discussed. I'll try to get more details from engineering for you.

Awesome.  Thanks for passing that on.

[oc2209]

I can understand why Jason's departure was kept under wraps during and after Normandy's launch. The uncertainty was unpleasant for us, naturally, but I can see the marketing logic plainly: allow the launch to go on as smoothly as possible. Eliminate the risk that his leaving could negatively impact sales.

 

What I don't understand, however, is why the next module's being kept under wraps this long. What possible advantage could there be in withholding that information?

 

I'm assuming the plane lineup has already been finalized, etc, so it's not like anything should be up in the air (no pun intended) at this late date. 

 

Ultimately it's no big deal--it'll happen when it happens. But the longer we wait, the more I get that itchy 'hurry up and rip the band-aid off' feeling.

 

If it's Mediterranean, we can expect a big sigh of relief from the anti-Eastern Front crowd. Most people in general would be happy with Medi. Wouldn't excite me that much since I don't care at all about pretty scenery; but I would buy it for the Italian planes. The Allied side of the equation would be mostly copy-paste and not only that, but less capable versions of planes we already have; so scenery and Italian engineering are the only real selling points for most people.

 

If it's Eastern Front, then we can expect a deluge of diatribes and 'I'm done!' posts.

 

In either event, it'd be nice to get it the hell over with.

[Avimimus]

9 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

Collector Planes, Vehicles and modules with preorders started will be completed and released.

 

Quick question regarding your wording here - a pre-order has not being started for the Lisunov Li-2. Does this mean that it has been (or may be) cancelled?

 

You see, the phrase "with pre-orders started" only excludes this one module... so I'm wondering if that wording is deliberate?

 

It'd be great to see it as an AI plane at least (and it'd also provide transport missions for Russia as well, rounding out the gameplay).

[migmadmarine]

Oc2209, Kuban released in March, and BoBP was announced in mid November. While BoBP released early November, BON was announced in mid November as well. Looks like Kuban was announced in september of 16, with Moscow released at the start of august. I don't think we are outside the margin of error yet, and November has been the month  of announcement for last several titles (if you include tank crew and FC Vol 1.) I'd say we are likely to get it announced next month, and while the war and Jason leaving after a long time in the job make it easy to feel like they are putting off a statement, that's still just reading tea leaves. 

21 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

Quick question regarding your wording here - a pre-order has not being started for the Lisunov Li-2. Does this mean that it has been (or may be) cancelled?

 

You see, the phrase "with pre-orders started" only excludes this one module... so I'm wondering if that wording is deliberate?

 

It'd be great to see it as an AI plane at least (and it'd also provide transport missions for Russia as well, rounding out the gameplay).

Well, if it is dependent on the performance of the 3rd party contractor(s) they had on it, I wouldn't be shocked if they weren't in a hurry to have them start a new, more complicated project given how slow the going seems to have been. 

[ST_Catchov]

7 hours ago, kendo said:

 

A small percentage of people believe the Earth is flat

 

That's just stupid. There's mountains and valleys right up to the edge.

[JG_deserteagle540]

6 hours ago, ICDP said:

People need to realise that in order to make core improvements, you need to generate income.  This inevitably means there will be a steady stream of collectable planes/tanks and even new modules to entice people to spend their money.

 

A small sim dev team sitting around focusing on core improvements to FM, DM or engine managment etc, will very soon run out of money.  Bug fixes and improvements are nice, but they do not generate enough income to sustain a project like this.

 

I will miss Jason more than most here, I owe him a lot and have a lot of time for the guy.  Having said that there will be future developments to this sim.

It might be a good idea to increase the price of the next module and invest time in fixing DM/FM issues, etc. The other flight sim which name I won't say is a lot more expensive than IL2 GB, so why don't ask a premium price for this flight sim and let it have a premium quality? 

[ShamrockOneFive]

1 hour ago, oc2209 said:

What I don't understand, however, is why the next module's being kept under wraps this long. What possible advantage could there be in withholding that information?

 

I'm assuming the plane lineup has already been finalized, etc, so it's not like anything should be up in the air (no pun intended) at this late date. 

 

I think there is usually a few things still up in the air at this stage. When Normandy was announced there were comments that they had really only just solidified their plans and that it was possible that a couple of aircraft may even change if their research efforts didn't bear fruit. They did fortunately and we have a really great set but I do remember in the early days thinking that there might be a few disappointed people in the community if they were forced to change something after the announcement.

 

Normandy was probably the quickest turnaround. Prior to that, there was quite a bit of waiting. We may be going to back to that.

 

I'd guess maybe by the end of the year we'll know what plans are.

[CountZero]

2 minutes ago, JG_deserteagle540 said:

It might be a good idea to increase the price of the next module and invest time in fixing DM/FM issues, etc. The other flight sim which name I won't say is a lot more expensive than IL2 GB, so why don't ask a premium price for this flight sim and let it have a premium quality? 

In enigma video they talk about maybe making smaller standard version in future, less then 8 airplanes, so probably they see from their data that ppl wont to pay less... 

 

8 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said:

 

I think there is usually a few things still up in the air at this stage. When Normandy was announced there were comments that they had really only just solidified their plans and that it was possible that a couple of aircraft may even change if their research efforts didn't bear fruit. They did fortunately and we have a really great set but I do remember in the early days thinking that there might be a few disappointed people in the community if they were forced to change something after the announcement.

 

Normandy was probably the quickest turnaround. Prior to that, there was quite a bit of waiting. We may be going to back to that.

 

I'd guess maybe by the end of the year we'll know what plans are.

moscow done to kuban anounced was ~1 month wait, kuban was not even done and we got anouncment that bobp is next, bobp to normandy was 2 weeks, now we are 6+weeks from bon officaly done, it is longest wait and bon lasted longest time also to be fully done. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

15 minutes ago, CountZero said:

moscow done to kuban anounced was ~1 month wait, kuban was not even done and we got anouncment that bobp is next, bobp to normandy was 2 weeks, now we are 6+weeks from bon officaly done, it is longest wait and bon lasted longest time also to be fully done. 

 

Was Kuban really that short of a wait after Moscow? I thought there was a period of teasing in between. Stalingrad to Moscow was months I'm sure.