Flying Circus Compared to RoF

[LukeFF]

52 minutes ago, Dupxo7 said:

completely flat textured No Mans Land with bare tree trunks sticking out like toothpicks from a cake - it is 2005 game feature!;

 

The main map is still very up a work in progress.

 

52 minutes ago, Dupxo7 said:

only parts of Western Front Map and only in spring texture

 

See above

 

52 minutes ago, Dupxo7 said:

completely non-existing Single Player Mode from developers - PWCG for the rescue again

 

As has been stated countless times, career mode is coming, but it's not practical to add it until the main map is ready.

 

53 minutes ago, Dupxo7 said:

very, very slow progress of the game

 

Well, that's life.

[ST_Catchov]

6 hours ago, Dupxo7 said:

- when plane hit the ground hard its fuselage goes boom and then dance in the air - pure comedy (the same situation was in Red Baron 3D, but this was in 1995)

 

I believe this comedy act is a result of FC being linked with the WWII modules. WWII updates can also have undesirable effects on FC. I can't see the devs ever making FC standalone so the comedy will continue. In hindsight, a stupid idea, but really FC was just an afterthought anyway (IMO) to bring in the pennies from WWI enthusiasts. It seems we are a nuisance to the devs real goals .... more 109's.

[LukeFF]

People like WWII planes more than WWI planes. There's nothing you can really do about that. 

Edited December 21, 2022 by LukeFF

[Trooper117]

13 hours ago, ST_Catchov said:

 

I believe this comedy act is a result of FC being linked with the WWII modules. WWII updates can also have undesirable effects on FC. I can't see the devs ever making FC standalone so the comedy will continue. In hindsight, a stupid idea, but really FC was just an afterthought anyway (IMO) to bring in the pennies from WWI enthusiasts. It seems we are a nuisance to the devs real goals .... more 109's.

 

Unfortunately you is right.

 

13 hours ago, LukeFF said:

People like WWII planes more than WWI planes. There's nothing you can really do about that. 

 

And this is true as well...

[Zooropa_Fly]

Some of us have effectively been 'driven' to ww2.

 

If there was a server, RoF or FC, with half a dozen people regularly on it.. I'd be there.

[Guest deleted@219798]

It make me wonder why the developers ever bothered with Flying Circus. When it was first announced it was supposed to replace Flying Circus. How's that going to be achieved  when development or fixes are placed on the back burner until some WW2 item is finished and released? I'll probably be dead before the FC map is finished and career mode is finally released. There's sure to be some other more important projects that will take priority and FC will once more be treated like some distant poor relation just getting fed on table scraps. The ease of shooting down planes both single and 2 seaters and the weird evasive non aggressive fighter AI means I do most of my WW1 flying in modded RoF. I shot a Breguet down from 200-250m,with 50 rounds, pilot dead, fuel leaking. Seems not very realistic. Similar with 3 other Breguets, all pilots dead with very short bursts.

Edited December 22, 2022 by kestrel444x500

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, kestrel444x500 said:

It make me wonder why the developers ever bothered with Flying Circus.

 

Ummm...VR, for one thing? 

[Guest deleted@219798]

5 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Ummm...VR, for one thing? 

Yeah VR and MP. That's all.

[Zooropa_Fly]

We keep hearing how the devs are a relatively small team.

With that in mind, and a bit of hindsight of course - they should have either not bothered starting FC and gone back to developing RoF.. or not started tanks / driveable vehicles until FC was complete.

 

So they've spread themselves far too thin in an attempt to keep everyone happy.

WW1 seems to be what's taken the pain.

Far too long to develop, plus other issues have resulted in losing many people who were up for it at the start.

 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

17 hours ago, kestrel444x500 said:

It make me wonder why the developers ever bothered with Flying Circus. When it was first announced it was supposed to replace Flying Circus. How's that going to be achieved  when development or fixes are placed on the back burner until some WW2 item is finished and released? I'll probably be dead before the FC map is finished and career mode is finally released. There's sure to be some other more important projects that will take priority and FC will once more be treated like some distant poor relation just getting fed on table scraps. The ease of shooting down planes both single and 2 seaters and the weird evasive non aggressive fighter AI means I do most of my WW1 flying in modded RoF. I shot a Breguet down from 200-250m,with 50 rounds, pilot dead, fuel leaking. Seems not very realistic. Similar with 3 other Breguets, all pilots dead with very short bursts.

Post tracks....?   just beating them to it..cuz we all know they love them, and apparently they wont even look it an issue without them...?  right....  lol  what a joke

Edited December 22, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

Post tracks

 

Yep, you were doing well up to that point. ?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Recording right now mate..  lol  or as I like to call it, filling up my hard drive.  ?

Edited December 22, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

2 hours of recording, 2 pilot kills (all deserved), not a single magic bullet.  

Edited December 22, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[kingspoons]

On 12/13/2022 at 10:22 PM, kestrel444x500 said:

I've had Rise of Flight since 2010. When it was updated so that you could blast the wings off an enemy plane at 250m plus, that took a lot of the enjoyment away.

Having just started digging in to Flying Circus today, I was disappointed to find the damage model wasn't like Rise of Flight. I'd always thought the way the wings crumpled was amazing - how just landing a few hits in the right place was enough to bring the whole plane down, especially compared to so many flying games that just give planes hit points.

 

Now I'm just left questioning which is the more realistic - the Rise of Flight way, or the reinforced wings that seem to feature in Flying Circus...

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, kingspoons said:

Having just started digging in to Flying Circus today, I was disappointed to find the damage model wasn't like Rise of Flight. I'd always thought the way the wings crumpled was amazing - how just landing a few hits in the right place was enough to bring the whole plane down, especially compared to so many flying games that just give planes hit points.

 

Now I'm just left questioning which is the more realistic - the Rise of Flight way, or the reinforced wings that seem to feature in Flying Circus...

Grrrrr……

[Guest deleted@219798]

No the wings falling off if you sneeze on them isn't realistic. Using mods in Rise of Flight that minimise that helps. Wings didn't fall off the real planes like that.

[Enceladus828]

On 12/28/2022 at 3:10 PM, kingspoons said:

Having just started digging in to Flying Circus today, I was disappointed to find the damage model wasn't like Rise of Flight. I'd always thought the way the wings crumpled was amazing - how just landing a few hits in the right place was enough to bring the whole plane down, especially compared to so many flying games that just give planes hit points.

 

Now I'm just left questioning which is the more realistic - the Rise of Flight way, or the reinforced wings that seem to feature in Flying Circus...

You could try using these mods in Rise of Flight: 

RoF United Ed. AI/DM & Other Mods. (Consolidated) - ROF File Announcements - CombatACE

 

Reduced Lethality mod: Updated/Fixed Links to Panther's Favorite Mods - 3rd Party Mods & Software - Rise of Flight Forum

 

There's also the game, Wings Over Flanders Fields: Between Heaven and Hell II which has more planes (and AI Zeppelins) than in RoF and FC, including planes that weren't in RoF.

[kendo]

On 12/28/2022 at 11:10 PM, kingspoons said:

Having just started digging in to Flying Circus today, I was disappointed to find the damage model wasn't like Rise of Flight. I'd always thought the way the wings crumpled was amazing - how just landing a few hits in the right place was enough to bring the whole plane down, especially compared to so many flying games that just give planes hit points.

 

Now I'm just left questioning which is the more realistic - the Rise of Flight way, or the reinforced wings that seem to feature in Flying Circus...

 

You have managed to jump head first into a very painful subject that has dominated the FC forum for past two years. Do a search to find out the gory details if you need to.

 

This has just been fixed recently to most people's satisfaction.

[Guest deleted@83466]

That’s pretty funny.

[Trooper117]

51 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

That’s pretty funny.

He did say 'most'... ?

[BlitzPig_EL]

Just how hard should it be to shoot down an aircraft made mostly of wood and fabric, with a wicker seat and no armor or self sealing fuel tanks?

 

Not very hard.  

 

I always aim for the meat servo that controls the thing.  It doesn't take many rounds of .303 British or 8mm Mauser to get the job done, and it shouldn't.  We are fragile bags of fluid after all.

[Yours_truly_Ace]

I think RoF has better gun sound, wind sound and engine sound. It's louder and more "in your face".
Also when the engine runs on low rpm your plane shakes a lot, and when reving high RPM's the big shaking turns into smaller faster vibrations.
I like these attention to detail. It's same on a motorcycle with a big engine, especially Harley.

With FC the engine sound is more tame and when you start it you don't hear that sputter much as in RoF. The wind sound is also toned down extremely so when you fly fast you don't get a feeling you are flying really fast as in RoF. Also the engine is too comfortable sounding. Also the plane shakes the same no matter your engine's RPM. It's weird.
Also most of the engines sounds the same, especially the german planes. 

I am disappointed with FC. It feels more like a rushed copy pasted version of RoF.

[BlitzPig_EL]

You think that might be because the German planes all mostly use the same bloody engine?

Hmmmmm?