Developer Diary #330 Discussion

[Dagwoodyt]

Seems like the Community Manager is in a "no win" situation ?

[oc2209]

12 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Your grammar is perfect, OC.

 

Thank you. I am a master of all things unprofitable.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

When will the next scenario(s) be announced? 

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

2 minutes ago, Dagwoodyt said:

Seems like the Community Manager is in a "no win" situation ?

Kobayashi Maru reference?

[HBPencil]

Great to see the XIV 'bubbletop' is well underway ?

One thing to note though, it looks like the black lines on the upper wing surfaces indicating the walkway is going over the roundels and that is incorrect.

Cheers,
HB

[ITAF_Artiglio]

6 hours ago, 76SQN-Minimayhemtemp said:

Nice, but:

 

1) Where is FC2 career

2) Where is FC2 map

3) Where is FC2 collector planes

4) Where are the WW1 FM fixes

I reinforce these elements.
And I add ...
was there really a need for another frenzied spitfire? ...
maybe some screen on the IAR 80? Wouldn't it have been better?
Or a new kind of development I know ... let me think of an airplane? ah yes here is the Macchi MC.200 that served on the Eastern front? ...
Better the Spit with the bubble dome ...

[1./JG42flesch]

One more Spit, super!

This Game needs more Spits?

More importend Planes are not needed.

[Trooper117]

If it's ok to have a shed load of 109's and a bucket full of FW's, then of course it's ok to have more Spits... c'mon you lot, try and keep up!  

[Vishnu]

Hey guys.    I bought the new Spitfire solely to fund the developers of this magnificent game. 

 

Same reason I bought the C47, Ju52, U2, the Li, Churchill, Stug, and Tank Crew.  I bet I will rarely fly the new Spit, C47 and Li.    I rarely fly the Ju52 and play tank crew rarely 

 

 

in other words.  I feel this game needs support and resources.   I’ll happily buy anything, if it means they continue to provide fantastic content.  
 

 

[Rjel]

I dare say if everyone (as in everyone who plays this sim, not just those who post on the forum) were asked about this or that plane, the numbers would likely line up pretty evenly. For any given period of the war, we each have a particular favorite. There's nothing right or wrong about that. It's simply personal preference. While I'd rather have had a Spitfire Mk IX with a round tail, I've bought the upcoming one in the hopes another collector's plane will appear that I personally want.

[Dagwoodyt]

53 minutes ago, Vishnu said:

Hey guys.    I bought the new Spitfire solely to fund the developers of this magnificent game. 

 

Same reason I bought the C47, Ju52, U2, the Li, Churchill, Stug, and Tank Crew.  I bet I will rarely fly the new Spit, C47 and Li.    I rarely fly the Ju52 and play tank crew rarely 

 

 

in other words.  I feel this game needs support and resources.   I’ll happily buy anything, if it means they continue to provide fantastic content.  
 

 

I am not in the habit of buying DLC I don't plan to use and I don't buy more than one lotto ticket per drawing. The sooner someone lays out where the GB series is headed the better the forum vibes. ?

Edited October 21, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[oc2209]

56 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

If it's ok to have a shed load of 109's and a bucket full of FW's, then of course it's ok to have more Spits... c'mon you lot, try and keep up!  

 

We need at least 3 more 109s and 190s before the series can be considered complete. I will allow the existence of 3 more Spitfires (or 2 more, after the bubbletop).

 

But until I get my extraneous 109s, I will be gravely disappointed with everything. All the time.

[=621=Samikatz]

I don't think there's a single aircraft/theatre that doesn't have someone going "This is awful, the series is dead if they do this" at this point so I think the doomsaying is just noise now

 

The FR.XIV has been explained as a smaller project to help train a new modeller, and it's definitely a looker, so I am far from upset by it. Interested to see if it gets the automatic RPM control present in some very late XIVs, and if there's any interesting gameplay tied to the camera it could carry

[ST_Catchov]

Yet again, nothing about hedgehogs.

 

 

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Thankfully however, we are getting them instead for a plane that flew for two weeks in the war instead the ones that flew in the thousands already in 1944, so all is well ?

 

7 weeks and 3 days. ?

[Regingrave-]

6 часов назад, AEthelraedUnraed сказал:

It always seems to me the AI has quite a bit better view than humans do, and also checks its six much more often. It's nearly impossible to approach an AI undetected, even from dead six and below, where you should be pretty much invisible. Are there any plans to "improve" (i.e. make more realistic) the AI in this regard?

Actually that's modelled. Couple of months ago I did some testing of AI threat evasion, and in several cases AI didn't react on my plane. First I've presumed it's a bug, but then I realized my plane was in the blind zone from the start, so AI didn't see me.

There's not much place for stealthy approach in actual gameplay though, that's why AI could appear all-seeing.

[SFC_Scott]

Hopefully you'll release the C-47 and Flying Circus Vol II (both of which I've already paid for) before you get to deep into these other projects...?

[CountZero]

25 minutes ago, Regingrave said:

Actually that's modelled. Couple of months ago I did some testing of AI threat evasion, and in several cases AI didn't react on my plane. First I've presumed it's a bug, but then I realized my plane was in the blind zone from the start, so AI didn't see me.

There's not much place for stealthy approach in actual gameplay though, that's why AI could appear all-seeing.

But when you compare the way they seam to see things around them , even on low AI settings, to real humans in MP it looks like AI is cheating (like hes at same time looking front, up,both side and back). In MP you can play stealthy, in SP it looks like its imposible, even good players in MP get jumped or attacked when they dont know enemy is on them, they either miss id situation thinking airplanes near them are frendly, or focus on one enemy to long, or are destracted, even players with great SA will get suprised, and new players so mutch more... AI is just to good at SA how its now. 

Edited October 22, 2022 by CountZero

[dburne]

Ok pre-ordered the Spit. Going to be a beautiful addition to my collection.

Gotta keep supporting 1CGS for all the work they do!

Edited October 22, 2022 by dburne

[Denum]

23 minutes ago, SFC_Scott said:

Hopefully you'll release the C-47 and Flying Circus Vol II (both of which I've already paid for) before you get to deep into these other projects...?

Next project is irrelevant to these aircraft as they are being made by third parties. 

[Dagwoodyt]

So is the La-7 most likely to be included in the next module base, premium edition or as a collector plane like the Spitfire XIVe (?)

Edited October 22, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[migmadmarine]

Again, guys, I remind you that this spit was stated as a training project for a new contractor. Given the limited changes to something in sim, but still enough to learn the ropes on, it makes sense why it is being added. Also, it was said in the announcements thread a couple days ago that they hope to release the C-47 before the end of the year. 

[CUJO_1970]

4 hours ago, Denum said:

Thanks Denum. I swear, Canadians are the nicest people. 

[Denum]

32 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said:

Thanks Denum. I swear, Canadians are the nicest people. 

 

Anytime. Couldn't stand to see you suffer. 

 

I'd wager you'll see your blown canopy in a future module.

 

Axis aircraft are pretty slim pickings so anything they do now would potentially hurt future sales. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[US103_Baer]

14 hours ago, 76SQN-Minimayhemtemp said:

Nice, but:

 

1) Where is FC2 career

2) Where is FC2 map

3) Where is FC2 collector planes

4) Where are the WW1 FM fixes

5) And the  FC wing DM fixes

 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by US103_Baer

[Fritz_X]

10 hours ago, Vishnu said:

Hey guys.    I bought the new Spitfire solely to fund the developers of this magnificent game. 

 

Same reason I bought the C47, Ju52, U2, the Li, Churchill, Stug, and Tank Crew.  I bet I will rarely fly the new Spit, C47 and Li.    I rarely fly the Ju52 and play tank crew rarely 

 

 

in other words.  I feel this game needs support and resources.   I’ll happily buy anything, if it means they continue to provide fantastic content.  
 

 

 

Same goes for me. I own all of the content this sim has to offer at the moment. My total flight time in the Ju-52 might be less than 30 minutes since its' release, yet I still don't regret buying it, because

 

a) I can immediately hop into it if I get the rare desire to go on a sight-seeing tour with it over the Kuban mountains and

 

b) the money I payed for it was used to realize a product like BoN, which I greatly enjoy.

 

Every fellow flight simmer and fan of the GB-series can disagree on this beaviour. Properly done flight simming can be a very expensive hobby and spending money for things you don't really like, just in the hope that the funds might be used for the creation of more suitable content at a later point in time is a risk not everyone might be willing or even able to take. So if anybody thinks my "I buy it all" attitude is quite naive, I might even not disagree with that.

 

But what really irks me in the forums of late is the seemingly rising hostile tone towards the developers and their product. We are supposedly all fans of this sim, yet it feels like quite a few people seem to actually dislike this game according to what they write and how they word their criticism. Others go straight into the "I'm not going to buy anything else if BoX/ a certain plane isn't coming next!" stance. The comment that baffled me the most was a recent one along the lines of "The engine isn't capable anymore. Just make a new one!".

 

And from what are the devs to support all of this? Thin air? Nobody is forcing you to buy their products, but you sure need to realize that they need all the funds they can get (which especially goes for unstable times like now) to give us more content. And yes, I agree with all the people on here who would like to see brand new content (like 4-engined heavies) instead of "more of the same".

 

But, I feel like in the current situation "more of the same" is the best deal this dev team is able to offer us. Not because they are not willing to do more, but because they are limited in what they can pull off. Other people, like the "Just create a new engine" guy might feel like we are in a "more of the same or something brand new" type of situation, but I honestly feel that "more of the same or nothing" is a more realistic approach.

 

And I for myself don't want this to end with the "nothing" option, for all the alternatives we currently have (WW2 DCS, Warthunder, modded IL-1946, Clod) are quite inferior to what the GB-series is offering us.

Edited October 22, 2022 by Fritz_X

[kendo]

8 hours ago, Regingrave said:

Actually that's modelled. Couple of months ago I did some testing of AI threat evasion, and in several cases AI didn't react on my plane. First I've presumed it's a bug, but then I realized my plane was in the blind zone from the start, so AI didn't see me.

There's not much place for stealthy approach in actual gameplay though, that's why AI could appear all-seeing.

 

That's interesting to hear.

 

I posted about an experience of mine just a  few days ago.

 

 

42 minutes ago, Fritz_X said:

 

Same goes for me. I own all of the content this sim has to offer at the moment. My total flight time in the Ju-52 might be less than 30 minutes since its' release, yet I still don't regret buying it, because

 

a) I can immediately hop into it if I get the rare desire to go on a sight-seeing tour with it over the Kuban mountains and

 

b) the money I payed for it was used to realize a product like BoN, which I greatly enjoy.

 

Every fellow flight simmer and fan of the GB-series can disagree on this beaviour. Properly done flight simming can be a very expensive hobby and spending money for things you don't really like, just in the hope that the funds might be used for the creation of more suitable content at a later point in time is a risk not everyone might be willing or even able to take. So if anybody thinks my "I buy it all" attitude is quite naive, I might even not disagree with that.

 

But what really irks me in the forums of late is the seemingly rising hostile tone towards the developers and their product. We are supposedly all fans of this sim, yet it feels like quite a few people seem to actually dislike this game according to what they write and how they word their criticism. Others go straight into the "I'm not going to buy anything else if BoX/ a certain plane isn't coming next!" stance. The comment that left me back speechless the most was a recent one along the lines of "The engine isn't capable anymore. Just make a new one!".

 

And from what are the devs to support all of this? Thin air? Nobody is forcing you to buy their products, but you sure need to realize that they need all the funds they can get (which especially goes for unstable times like now) to give us more content. And yes, I agree with all the people on here who would like to see brand new content (like 4-engined heavies) instead of "more of the same".

 

But, I feel like in the current situation "more of the same" is the best deal this dev team is able to offer to us, because they are limited in what they can pull off. Other people, like the "Just create a new engine" guy might feel like we are in a "more of the same or something brand new" type of situation, but I honestly feel that "more of the same or nothing" is a more realistic approach.

 

And I for myself don't want this to end with the "nothing" option, for all the alternatives we currently have (WW2 DCS, Warthunder, modded IL-1946, Clod) are quite inferior to what the GB-series is offering us.

 

I agree. The reaction to this DD reveals some in this 'community' as entitled brats. Yeah, big news and a deep surprise (not)

 

First DD in a while, and all some could do was whinge that their desired subject wasn't covered. Not interested in the Spit - ok, don't buy the f****g thing - no-one is putting gun to your head.

 

And considering some want every single 109 and 190 that ever existed to be modelled their criticism is pretty rich.

 

 

 

[76SQN-Minimayhemtemp]

14 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

 

Yes you can.  A nuclear hellfire may be just what is needed to clean up some of the threads.

Some key takeaways from me after being here a month.

The angst over the C-47 is fully understandable, but it is 3rd party and the delivery is not up to 1C at this point.

I will post anything I get, as soon as I get it. that's the best I can do for you.

But back to DD. 

No DD today, we have major butthurt.

Get a DD today, we have major butthurt.

I'm seeing a trend here. ?

I can only hope that somebody is happy with something at some point around here. But maybe I'm too optimistic.

Or at least a little optimistic....

 

 

 

Bit unfair I think.  You have almost the entire FC community wanting an update for several outsanding enhancements and isuses, indeed that community has been waiting for some kind of meaningful update now for several months.  Another DD passes without a mention.

 

So I think the trend is that you have long-standing items the community are waiting for and poor communication from the development team.

 

Honestly putting FC2 aside, just fix the wings in FC and you'll keep people quiet on that front for a bit.

 

 

[Trooper117]

11 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

I am not in the habit of buying DLC I don't plan to use

 

I absolutely agree 100%...

[Dagwoodyt]

So a Spitfire XIVe is coming next Spring. Difficult to believe an La-7 is not a "shoe" waiting to drop.  ?

Edited October 22, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[sevenless]

12 hours ago, Dagwoodyt said:

So is the La-7 most .likely to be included in the next module base, premium edition or as a collector plane like the Spitfire XIVe (?)

 

No single player map to fly on. So as with Yak-3 not very likely unless we get a 44/45 module

[imanuthep]

Great news about the SpitfireMkXIVe with bubbletop but could it be possible to get a modification of the SpitfireMkIXe to get the wings of the MkIXc (wich was for more present in the skies overs Europe)

and a question for everyone : does anyone have the same issue ? the official skins for the Nieuport 28 have disappeared

[CrazyhorseB34]

This is the most useless. DLC  in entire series. 

 

Four months. 45?  Useless. 

 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

17 minutes ago, imanuthep said:

Great news about the SpitfireMkXIVe with bubbletop but could it be possible to get a modification of the SpitfireMkIXe to get the wings of the MkIXc (wich was for more present in the skies overs Europe)

and a question for everyone : does anyone have the same issue ? the official skins for the Nieuport 28 have disappeared

Had not noticed that about the N28.  

[CrazyhorseB34]

I am actually. Patiently. Waiting for...

 

The Romanian Rocket! ?

[senseispcc]

A bubble canopy Spitfire is a nice and useful idea. Many seems not so enthusiastic about it, but why?

Is it the German planes were so good idea (wen they lost the war?!) or their pilots are better (when they lost more, proportionally, than  the allies that were more actives?! Like a fiend of mine is always saying "how did sign the reedition papers in 1945?" Or is it because it is forbidden fruit?  You are not the best in anything if you surrender! Allies pilots western or others (Russians, Poles, French, etc..) had a lot of courage to go to the offensive in planes they made better by being the best pilots and wingmen humanly  possible, but that is not "panache" but COURAGE! Fly this is a game not reality. But never forget that being a pilot or any flying position in a plane is a job. And this is a game and must stay it, so if you do not like the choices of planes presented to you ask yourself why?  

Edited October 22, 2022 by senseispcc
corrections

[Guest deleted@83466]

My brain just isn’t following along with the discussion this morning.

[Dagwoodyt]

8 hours ago, Fritz_X said:

 

Same goes for me. I own all of the content this sim has to offer at the moment. My total flight time in the Ju-52 might be less than 30 minutes since its' release, yet I still don't regret buying it, because

 

a) I can immediately hop into it if I get the rare desire to go on a sight-seeing tour with it over the Kuban mountains and

 

b) the money I payed for it was used to realize a product like BoN, which I greatly enjoy.

 

Every fellow flight simmer and fan of the GB-series can disagree on this beaviour. Properly done flight simming can be a very expensive hobby and spending money for things you don't really like, just in the hope that the funds might be used for the creation of more suitable content at a later point in time is a risk not everyone might be willing or even able to take. So if anybody thinks my "I buy it all" attitude is quite naive, I might even not disagree with that.

 

But what really irks me in the forums of late is the seemingly rising hostile tone towards the developers and their product. We are supposedly all fans of this sim, yet it feels like quite a few people seem to actually dislike this game according to what they write and how they word their criticism. Others go straight into the "I'm not going to buy anything else if BoX/ a certain plane isn't coming next!" stance. The comment that baffled me the most was a recent one along the lines of "The engine isn't capable anymore. Just make a new one!".

 

And from what are the devs to support all of this? Thin air? Nobody is forcing you to buy their products, but you sure need to realize that they need all the funds they can get (which especially goes for unstable times like now) to give us more content. And yes, I agree with all the people on here who would like to see brand new content (like 4-engined heavies) instead of "more of the same".

 

But, I feel like in the current situation "more of the same" is the best deal this dev team is able to offer us. Not because they are not willing to do more, but because they are limited in what they can pull off. Other people, like the "Just create a new engine" guy might feel like we are in a "more of the same or something brand new" type of situation, but I honestly feel that "more of the same or nothing" is a more realistic approach.

 

And I for myself don't want this to end with the "nothing" option, for all the alternatives we currently have (WW2 DCS, Warthunder, modded IL-1946, Clod) are quite inferior to what the GB-series is offering us.

Who are saying all those terrible things? ?

Edited October 22, 2022 by Dagwoodyt

[CountZero]

17 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

If it's ok to have a shed load of 109's and a bucket full of FW's, then of course it's ok to have more Spits... c'mon you lot, try and keep up!  

Yes but Spits that are more used, another Spitfire V or Spitfire IX would be better accepted then Spitfire that was used so late in war that youll fined it hard to use anywhere. On top we already have better version of same one as collector, that can on top be used for more SP timeline and in BoN and BoBp, so it wont be atractive option for players who wont better performing airplane.

Its not that its another Spitfire, its pointless Spitfire.

[BlitzPig_EL]

The XIV bubble top is a really good looking aircraft, and the perspex bubble canopy may make for better vis in combat situations, regardless of slightly worse aero, just as it does on the Mustang, hence possibly improving it's actual combat abilities.

 

I don't understand the hate for it.  But then, these days, I don't understand a lot of what I read here anymore.

 

It would look really good in the late two tone FAA paint scheme.  Hint hint.

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by BlitzPig_EL