1Sascha Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) Looks like Blue is still the way to go ... if you don't mind the power-draw and temps... ? Not sure sure if this gen makes much sense for 12th gen owners. Looking at Paul's gaming results, I'm not super tempted to throw out my 12600K and go for a 13700 or higher. Differences in single thread performance shouldn't be *that* huge, so even with the demands of VR in mind, I think I'd rather spend money on a different upgrade than 12th to 13th gen CPU. S. Edited October 20, 2022 by 1Sascha 2
dburne Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, 1Sascha said: Looks like Blue is still the way to go ... if you don't mind the power-draw and temps... ? Not sure sure if this gen makes much sense for 12th gen owners. Looking at Paul's gaming results, I'm not super tempted to throw out my 12600K and go for a 13700 or higher. Differences in single thread performance shouldn't be *that* huge, so even with the demands of VR in mind, I think I'd rather spend money on a different upgrade than 12th to 13th gen CPU. S. I honestly can not remember a time in recent years that an upgrade from one gen to the very next in Intel CPU's was worth it. Maybe back in the core 2 duo days. Still rocking an i9 9900k here and likely will for at least another year. Maybe 14xx series, 13 is unlucky anyways lol. 1
SCG_motoadve Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 Currently I have the i9 10900K, will this i9 13900K fit in the same motherboard? Will it make a difference in IL2? will be a lot cheaper to upgrade to this than to a 4090. I have a 3090Ti and a Varjo Aero.
Nadelbaum Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said: Currently I have the i9 10900K, will this i9 13900K fit in the same motherboard? Nope. 10xxx is LGA1200 while 12xxx and 13xxx are LGA1700. With Intel you will only be able to use the same motherboard for two generations (typically). 14xxx will again use new socket.
AngleOff66 Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, Nadelbaum said: Nope. 10xxx is LGA1200 while 12xxx and 13xxx are LGA1700. With Intel you will only be able to use the same motherboard for two generations (typically). 14xxx will again use new socket. Yup, this is why I am waiting to see what the new 3Xd will do in early 23. This also gives board prices time to come down and bugs get worked out. 1
Voyager Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, AngleOff66 said: Yup, this is why I am waiting to see what the new 3Xd will do in early 23. This also gives board prices time to come down and bugs get worked out. My current 5800X3D is giving ridiculously low frame times in the advanced quick mission flights, so I'm curious to see what the 7x00X3D can do, but mine already does 2x what a 3080 TI does in VR. I expect even a 4090 won't push more frames than it can support.
Youtch Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Voyager said: but mine already does 2x what a 3080 TI does in VR. What do you mean by that. Can you clarify?
Voyager Posted October 21, 2022 Posted October 21, 2022 13 hours ago, Youtch said: What do you mean by that. Can you clarify? Essentially this. If you look at the CPU and GPU frame times, and especially their second peaks (the lower frame time peaks are inevitably in the menus), you'll see that the 3080 Ti take about twice as long to generate a frame as the CPU does at my current graphics settings. So I need to double my GPU performance before I'm consistently CPU bound in Il-2 at my current graphics settings. 1 1
1Sascha Posted October 21, 2022 Author Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) This probably would deserve its own thread, but here's the review that's arguably much more relevant to most people: Looks like a decent uplift over the 12600K with much more reasonable power-draw/temperatures. Basically, the 13900K seems to be an exercise in pumping insane amounts of juice into the CPU to stay on top of the leaderboard at all cost. S. Edited October 21, 2022 by 1Sascha 2
1Sascha Posted November 23, 2022 Author Posted November 23, 2022 And here are Steve's tests for the 13700K 13600K still looks like the sweet spot for gaming. Not a whole lot of performance to be gained by going 13700. S.
354thFG_Drewm3i-VR Posted November 23, 2022 Posted November 23, 2022 On 10/20/2022 at 10:31 AM, dburne said: I honestly can not remember a time in recent years that an upgrade from one gen to the very next in Intel CPU's was worth it. Maybe back in the core 2 duo days. Still rocking an i9 9900k here and likely will for at least another year. Maybe 14xx series, 13 is unlucky anyways lol. To be fair, 8-11th gen to 12th was a massive improvement. 1
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