ENGLISH Interview with IL-2 GB team In October 2022

[Enceladus828]

36 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

Aye I would rather the team over on the dover side to work on GBS side. More manpower more ideas and more content for GBS.

Sorry, but that would require the devs spend completely unnecessary time, money and resources to retrain ~30 people how to make planes, ships, vehicles, maps, etc., etc., for IL-2 GBs. The two game engines are completely different from one another, so it's not like learning Italian and then learning Spanish. It would take a very long time, perhaps many years, for Team Fusion to get acquainted with the GBs code.

A perfect example is Ugra Media: if one assumes that November 2017 was when Ugra first started training to make content for GBs, 13 months later is when they released their first plane, the U2VS which is a small two-seater plane, and 48 months later was when they released their first complete product, FC1 which was basically like typing up a handwritten document. It's been almost two years since FC2 was announced, a slightly larger project than FC1, and only now have the FC2 map images been shown. It's taken Ugra a year and a half to make the C-47 cockpit, just one cockpit and nothing else.

This just goes to show that having 3rd party teams who do not make things in house and only work part-time will NOT result in more manpower and content for IL-2 GBs in a timely manner.

 

1 hour ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

To not overlap is nothing but lost sales

What?! No, them not doing BoB and North Africa is not lost sales, that's just your own hysteria. The devs are allied with Team Fusion and they said in the interview with Enigma that them doing a Battle of Britain or Tobruk installment from 1940-June 1942 would be strange from a business point of view.

 

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[RNAS10_Mitchell]

Learned a long time ago that putting 100 people on a 100 hour computer project, doesn't get the project done in 1 hour.  Tasks usually need to be completed in a certain order, with certain things required to be completed, before the next task can even be started.  We need to be patient and let them do thier jobs.  They are professionals, and know what they are doing.

[[CPT]Crunch]

23 minutes ago, Enceladus said:

What?! No, them not doing BoB and North Africa is not lost sales, that's just your own hysteria. The devs are allied with Team Fusion and they said in the interview with Enigma that them doing a Battle of Britain or Tobruk installment from 1940-June 1942 would be strange from a business point of view.

 

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Wrong, you can't sell to me what's not produced.  CLOD, already said I ain't buying it.

 

Haven't you just killed your own argument about third party development.

[Roger_Meatball]

When will the next product be announced?

Will the Great Battles series cease development after the currently-announced products are finished?

[deathmisser]

9 minutes ago, Roger_Meatball said:

When will the next product be announced?

We don't know but an aircraft is already in development apparently.

 

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Italy is out as it's to much to do. 

Edited November 9, 2022 by deathmisser

[Koziolek]

20 hours ago, deathmisser said:

I can only think of the invasion of Poland.

 

That's the only one I can see as new to the series as it make sense.

 

   

 

Are you really sure you would like to play it? I wouldn't. And I'm from Poland ?

Fighters with 2 machineguns and slower even than the bombers. It would be no fun at all. Well, maybe as much as Hurricane vs V1 scenario

Interesting maybe for a few hardcore simmers but majority of players would leave this game after a few hours

 

[LuftManu]

That was really nice, guys!

Loving the team is on high spirits and that there is a new Il-2 generation inboud. I hope this settles some fears and doubts in the community.
For me it already did.

Kind regards and good luck!

[Enceladus828]

40 minutes ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

Wrong, you can't sell to me what's not produced.  CLOD, already said I ain't buying it.

 

Haven't you just killed your own argument about third party development.

Nope, I did not kill my own argument.

 

If you want a Battle of France, BoB, North Africa, Malta, or Italian Campaign done then you’ll have to do most of the work as Loft and Han said these are impossible for them to do at the moment.

Edited November 9, 2022 by Enceladus

[CountZero]

So from their video next DLC is 100% not Italy, then its not Sicily 43, as like they say its to urban, you cant miss a roof of a house where ever you drop a bomb lol.

Then it has to be Channel 43, 100% no other option for next DLC, if its not PTO also ?

 

And it seams in few weeks there will be more collector airplanes anounced if i understod it corectly, so i doubt of new DLC anouncment any time sone.

 

 

[AEthelraedUnraed]

Couldn't join the whole stream alas, but did watch the final 30min or so.

 

21 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

Italy is out as it's to much to do. 

Well, yes, I did notice that too. I do wonder, since they always seemed to specifically speak about mainland Italy and not Sicily, if that makes a difference. Sicily at least doesn't have nearly as big cities as Rome.

 

If it isn't Sicily, I truly don't know whatever module checks all these marks:

- Not Italy (mainland Italy???).

- Not PTO.

- Propellor-based aircraft (mainly???).

- No big cities.

- Something "new" (new aircraft? new area? both? what is "new" exactly?)

[Gambit21]

Just now, CountZero said:

So from their video next DLC is 100% not Italy

 

 

 

lol

This is my shocked face ?

 

 

 

[MasterShake]

I think it is fair to say that most of the questions that people wanted answered were not. I appreciate the livestream, but at the same time I also do not understand why have a livestream if you are not going to answer any of the Youtube chat questions. I understand maybe the team couldn't answer those questions, but then why have the livestream?

[Avimimus]

Interesting - I was quite happy with the current damage model (with the exception of some desired improvements for the WWI aircraft, and some ground targets - particularly ships which need a flooding model to make the 57mm Molins and the RP-3 25lb AP rocket useful).

 

It is the AI which could really do with improvements (both gunner and pilot - especially WWI). In my mind that is the major weakness of the sim. That is where I'd like to see a revolutionary improvement.

[Bars-]

2 минуты назад, AEthelraedUnraed сказал:

If it isn't Sicily, I truly don't know whatever module checks all these marks:

- Not Italy (mainland Italy???).

- Not PTO.

- Propellor-based aircraft (mainly???).

- No big cities.

- Something "new" (new aircraft? new area? both? what is "new" exactly?)

Aleutian Islands? Norway, Island? Atlantic Anti-submarine warfare?

[LuftManu]

I still believe in CBI. Burma, China and such!

Swiming pilots for next expansion!

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, Enceladus said:

This just goes to show that having 3rd party teams who do not make things in house and only work part-time will NOT result in more manpower and content for IL-2 GBs in a timely manner.

 

True, but they might make some unique content that wouldn't be possible otherwise (even if it is in an untimely manner).

[Gambit21]

So what I’m hearing is - I didn’t miss anything.

[Chief_Mouser]

They said a lot of things that they weren't going to or couldn't do, and almost nothing about what they were, except that all the things they couldn't do in BoX they were going to do in the next project.

So, a new sim, no more Box is how I read it, and that then could be absolutely anywhere.

It also came across as a rather large dose of pipedreams. Not holding my breath.

[Trooper117]

Well, all I gleaned from that session is there's a bit of stuff they can do, but lots of stuff they can't do... and at least they held up their hands and admitted stuff they tried to do but failed, so they were honest.

Some stuff they can do will not be coming forth in this game, but will only be possible in the new gaming engine and new direction they are taking, (but they won't tell us what that is yet)... sigh...

 

[[DBS]Browning]

Well, it's got to be North Africa then. No other options so far as I can see.

 

Can't be Europe or Russia as it's somewhere new.

Confirmed as not the Pacific or Italy.

No cities, which rules out many places.

Where else could it be?

[DragonDaddy]

I don’t want to be rude but I’m not feeling I learned anything new from this stream. Yes, they want to fix things, do new stuff, add more elements, embrace new technology. Yes, they sort of answered some player submitted questions.  But it seemed like they were going around in circles, didn’t want to commit to anything and have not offered us any specific direction for the future of this sim. I truly got the impression that this was more for show than to share new information. 

[CountZero]

14 minutes ago, MasterShake said:

I think it is fair to say that most of the questions that people wanted answered were not. I appreciate the livestream, but at the same time I also do not understand why have a livestream if you are not going to answer any of the Youtube chat questions. I understand maybe the team couldn't answer those questions, but then why have the livestream?

Yes, they could prerecord it and have it same (probably filter out questions and have better answers and so on...) if only questions answered will be previous collected ones from forums or telegram or discort and so on...

Purpse of live stream is to interact with live chat, then more ppl will come next time , so its more normal to then pick questions from chat, and answer. I doubt youll have next stream ~150 or ~300 ppl joining inon live stream when they know they can just watch it later if live chat questions dont have time to get answered.

5 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

So what I’m hearing is - I didn’t miss anything.

DT was to hard, so maybe next DLC, also if ppl wont more maps they can build them them self. TC2, buy more tanks and youll get it. Time dialation, send missions and specs of PC, when bug is located its easyer to fix, pilots will not drawn fix is posible for next DLC...

 

And as expected no word about engine timers ?

 

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero

[sevenless]

5 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

So what I’m hearing is - I didn’t miss anything.

 

 

[deathmisser]

5 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

Well, it's got to be North Africa then. No other options so far as I can see.

 

Can't be Europe or Russia as it's somewhere new.

Confirmed as not the Pacific or Italy.

No cities, which rules out many places.

Where else could it be?

Really no cities at all ?

[CountZero]

1 minute ago, deathmisser said:

Really no cities at all ?

svalbard

[Wardog5711]

As Albert said, this was the first attempt at something like this. There were some technical hurdles on the first event and we know there is more work to do on upcoming events. As far as the questions answered, we had a time limit to adhere to and the original questions collected was cut way down. And some were off limits.

Even I don't have a clue what the next module is, so it is being kept a tight secret at the moment. I'm as curious as the rest of you and will probably find out an hour before you do.

 

 

[=621=Samikatz]

17 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Then it has to be Channel 43, 100% no other option for next DLC

 

They also said it's a new map they have to research, what different area would a Channel 43 map cover that had significant combat? The Normandy map already covers a huge chunk of the Channel while rubbing up against the Rheinland map. I guess you could go West, but there isn't anywhere near as much land or as many settlements that way

[AEthelraedUnraed]

12 minutes ago, Bars- said:

Aleutian Islands? Norway, Island? Atlantic Anti-submarine warfare?

Honestly, is there anyone beyond the really hardcore WW2 fanatics who's gonna buy such a module? I don't think so. Certainly not enough to finance the whole team.

[Alexmarine]

3 minutes ago, deathmisser said:

Really no cities at all ?

 

Khalkin-Gol 

[GSHWK_Houndstone_Hawk]

2 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said:

As Albert said, this was the first attempt at something like this. There were some technical hurdles on the first event and we know there is more work to do on upcoming events. As far as the questioned answered, we had a time limit to adhere to and the original questions collected was cut way down. And some were off limits.

Even I don't have a clue what the next module is, so it is being kept a tight secret at the moment. I'm as curious as the rest of you and will probably find out a hour before you do.

 

 

But you know you've pretty much wasted an hour or so of your time from trying to glean an interest into the direction forward with this franchise when one of the alloted chosen few questions was about "swimming pilots" 

[Irishratticus72]

4 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said:

As Albert said, this was the first attempt at something like this. There were some technical hurdles on the first event and we know there is more work to do on upcoming events. As far as the questioned answered, we had a time limit to adhere to and the original questions collected was cut way down. And some were off limits.

Even I don't have a clue what the next module is, so it is being kept a tight secret at the moment. I'm as curious as the rest of you and will probably find out a hour before you do.

 

 

Typical, it's always the Jarheads who are last to know.... ?

[parkerc341]

26 minutes ago, CountZero said:

So from their video next DLC is 100% not Italy, then its not Sicily 43, as like they say its to urban, you cant miss a roof of a house where ever you drop a bomb lol.

Then it has to be Channel 43, 100% no other option for next DLC, if its not PTO also ?

 

And it seams in few weeks there will be more collector airplanes anounced if i understod it corectly, so i doubt of new DLC anouncment any time sone.

 

 

I hope its not channel, theres got to be something different. Channel would be very boring imho, just the Normandy map basically.

[Gambit21]

13 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

Well, it's got to be North Africa then. No other options so far as I can see.

 

Can't be Europe or Russia as it's somewhere new.

Confirmed as not the Pacific or Italy.

No cities, which rules out many places.

Where else could it be?

Back up and read a bit.

 

[LuftManu]

13 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

Well, it's got to be North Africa then. No other options so far as I can see.

 

Can't be Europe or Russia as it's somewhere new.

Confirmed as not the Pacific or Italy.

No cities, which rules out many places.

Where else could it be?

No North Africa. They said it would be problematic too, not enough resources.

I sitll believe in Burma which actually... is not PTO, but CBI.

[CountZero]

1 minute ago, LuftManu said:

No North Africa. They said it would be problematic too, not enough resources.

I sitll believe in Burma which actually... is not PTO, but CBI.

Well after this last stream im converted it could even be Korea lol

[ROCKET_KNUT]

Just now, AEthelraedUnraed said:

Honestly, is there anyone beyond the really hardcore WW2 fanatics who's gonna buy such a module? I don't think so. Certainly not enough to finance the whole team.

Airborne ASW? Any day of the week. But your point is as true as it hurts: 

There won´t be enough people with, let´s say, "special" interests to make it even remotely profitable. 

[Vishnu]

I’m confused.   I  didn’t watch the stream.  

 

It was a big nothing burger?

[DBFlyguy]

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Edited November 9, 2022 by DBFlyguy

[Wardog5711]

18 minutes ago, Irishratticus72 said:

Typical, it's always the Jarheads who are last to know...

Yep, nothing changes.  Reminds me of an MOS school I attended back in the 90's. 

6 weeks of training to deal with 'incidents'.

All you were allowed to say was "I can neither confirm, or deny the presence of nuclear weapons on this vessel/aircraft/crash site".

Kinda like this job at the moment. ?

 

[Hotaru_Ito]

Sounds like Italy is totally off the table. Can't see it being Channel either since they said it's a new map. Assuming North Africa is still out, and we're still sticking to WWII (so no SCW or Korea), seems like it almost has to be Burma. I wouldn't totally rule out some early-war scenario like Malta, Greece, or Crete though.

 

I don't get why everybody is acting like they said nothing. Honestly, they gave pretty straight answers to questions I was expecting them to weasel out of. Hoping for November release of C-47, February for FC2 career, sooner for map. Couple other release dates I don't remember. Sounds like we'll have all or most of the currently-announced content by February or March at the latest. Expect DDs every two weeks and live streams once a month. Fuel system was a bust, but drop tanks are still planned for next expansion. Two new collector planes, variants from earlier modules, in the works. FC AI trouble was "a bug and we've killed it." Pilot instant death when parachuting into water should be fixed in next expansion. That was about the amount of information I was hoping for, and more than I was expecting.

 

The two main disappointments for me are "get a better PC" for time dilation and no word at all on engine timers.