Gambit21 Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 6 hours ago, 9./JG52_J-HAT said: A new producer? There’s a thrilling new “who done it” novel on the horizon that I think you and a few others might enjoy. It deals with the mystery of “who bombed Pearl Harbor?” A real edge of your seat page-turner I hear. ? 2
CountZero Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Trooper117 said: If that translation is correct, that statement is just bollox... if they didn't want that 'pressure' thrust upon them, then they never would have told us that they had already selected the next module, and where excited about it in that other interview. Anyone with more than two brain cells know that it takes the best part of a year or more to produce the next GB instalment. They are just playing for time for whatever is going on behind the scenes right now is pretty big stuff, and for my book, letting people know what the next project is would help settle things down. I just check dates of how things worked before (since Jason took over) and we usealy didnt have to wait this long to know whats next DLC: Kuban anounced -08.09.2016 Kuban released -14.03.2018 (was planed for dec 2017) Bodenplate anounced -17.11.2017 Bodenplate released -07.11.2019 Normandy anounced -24 11 19 Normandy released -07.09.22 So kuban was still worked on and we knew next is BoBp, Bobp was done and in 2 weeks we got news next is BoN, now after 6+ weeks still no news and probably not gona get it any time sone. So its no suprise ppl are wondering whats going on... Edited October 24, 2022 by CountZero
Dennis_Nedry Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Battle of Monte Cassino or Anzio or Rome. Jan 44 - June 44 The two gold stars are Anzio and Monte Cassino locations Now before someone gets all upset about Rome being on the map just compare it to some of the cities on the Rhineland map. Its a compact city that isn't much different in physical size than a city like Cologne and there are no other major cities on this map. Something interesting and new could perhaps be the Henschel Hs 293. We could also have A-36s and CR42LWs!
JediMaster Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Has no one floated the Spanish Civil War in this thread or did I miss it? That would be "different" depending on your point of view, as Obi Wan would say. Now to be honest, I do NOT want it to be that. The idea of flying even earlier variants of planes we have the mid-war and later variants of already doesn't thrill me, nor does the performance of those 30's birds. Only the idea of flying over Spain with the later planes in a "what if Franco got involved" scenario is interesting to me. If there is not going to be any Pacific campaigns yet, whether Manchuria or Japan or Okinawa or any of it, and knowing the other team covered N Africa and BoB already, then I have no real preference on where it would go. Balkans maybe? SE Europe is definitely in the less-covered category. Of course, there's a reason for that--not a big hook marketing wise.
CountZero Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dennis_Nedry said: Battle of Monte Cassino or Anzio or Rome. Jan 44 - June 44 The two gold stars are Anzio and Monte Cassino locations Now before someone gets all upset about Rome being on the map just compare it to some of the cities on the Rhineland map. Its a compact city that isn't much different in physical size than a city like Cologne and there are no other major cities on this map. Something interesting and new could perhaps be the Henschel Hs 293. We could also have A-36s and CR42LWs! You have 2 problems there, what 5 airplanes for axis side that operated there and what bases they operated at that time. Hs-293 airplanes were taking of from south france or Istria far north, like most axis fighters at this time, less italian airplanes were used then in 43. 1
oc2209 Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JediMaster said: Has no one floated the Spanish Civil War in this thread or did I miss it? That would be "different" depending on your point of view, as Obi Wan would say. I'd buy early war modules (including Spanish Civil War) if they were made after all possible mid-to-late war ideas had been exhausted. In theory, it's all interesting. Fighting with hideous peashooters is okay, as long as your enemy is also armed with peashooters. And it would be interesting to be able to compare the early versions of the Spitfire and 109 to their later versions--even if the later versions are far preferable in terms of overall combat ability, and I wouldn't fly the early models very often. In other words, it's one of those things that would be nice to have, but isn't strictly necessary. We're quickly reaching a point where most of the essential parts of the war (from '41 on) have been covered by either Eastern or Western front modules. Edited October 25, 2022 by oc2209
DBFlyguy Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 Part of me wonders if that was even a concern choosing the next theater... I guess we'll eventually see and let the dice land where they may.
9./JG52_J-HAT Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Gambit21 said: There’s a thrilling new “who done it” novel on the horizon that I think you and a few others might enjoy. It deals with the mystery of “who bombed Pearl Harbor?” A real edge of your seat page-turner I hear. ? I hope my kardashian deduction skillz help me in figuring that one out ? I didn‘t want to be too obvious… But your Elrond quote is telling too much ?
Ribbon Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 It is kind of sad and funny that in 2022 carrier tech (bombers too) is an obstacle while other sims and old il2 had it done, this game became quite limited and more so dlc repetitive in gameplay due to game engine or whatever the reasons are. It is a big turn off for investing in a game that is not evoloving gameplay wise nor give any positive signs it will. Anyway let's wait and see! 2
MajorMagee Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, JediMaster said: Has no one floated the Spanish Civil War in this thread or did I miss it? That would be "different" depending on your point of view, as Obi Wan would say. I did back on page 2 (Oct 7th)... Edited October 25, 2022 by MajorMagee 1
AndyJWest Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 15 hours ago, Gambit21 said: There’s a thrilling new “who done it” novel on the horizon that I think you and a few others might enjoy. It deals with the mystery of “who bombed Pearl Harbor?” A real edge of your seat page-turner I hear. ? No mystery at all... 1 1
Dennis_Nedry Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 14 hours ago, CountZero said: You have 2 problems there, what 5 airplanes for axis side that operated there and what bases they operated at that time. Hs-293 airplanes were taking of from south france or Istria far north, like most axis fighters at this time, less italian airplanes were used then in 43. Ok scrap the Hs 293 then. The LW used many airfields north of Rome during the period…Viterbo complex, Rieti, and then Rome itself. As far as aircraft you really only need 4. I would pick the Mc205 as the collector. It may not have been operating from this map but it was in theatre. I haven’t researched all the a/c the Luftwaffe was using but like I said before the Cr42LW is one. If the they do decide recon there were 109G5 and G8s in the area as well.
deathmisser Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) I can only think of the invasion of Poland. That's the only one I can see as new to the series as it make sense. As COD are focused on the BOB and north Africa and they said that it's won't be in the Pacific setting. Iicr no other combat sim have touched that area of the war so it would work in there favour. Edited November 8, 2022 by deathmisser 1
Trooper117 Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, deathmisser said: I can only think of two fronts the invasion of Poland or invasion of Yugoslavia. You need to think that they have to choose a theatre that will appeal to the vast majority of players in order to make a profit... and it's neither of those. 1 2
deathmisser Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Trooper117 said: You need to think that they have to choose a theatre that will appeal to the vast majority of players in order to make a profit... and it's neither of those. Polish aircraft what peak my interest. What are you choices m8 ?
ShamrockOneFive Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, deathmisser said: Polish aircraft what peak my interest. What are you choices m8 ? Trooper is correct. We all have our favourite airplanes but some theatres and aircraft sets lend themselves to better sales numbers than others. While I'd love to see them explore some of the more obscure options too... I know that they aren't necessarily going to be financially viable. 1
deathmisser Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, ShamrockOneFive said: Trooper is correct. We all have our favourite airplanes but some theatres and aircraft sets lend themselves to better sales numbers than others. While I'd love to see them explore some of the more obscure options too... I know that they aren't necessarily going to be financially viable. I'm afraid so m8. It's a tricky one as A. It can't be an area that overlaps ClOD and Tobruk. B. Piston engine themed. C. Not very urban. D. Can't be in the pacific. E. Something totally new for us.
ShamrockOneFive Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 For sure. I think that a lot of folks are hinging their guesses on C - not very urban. But I think there's a lot of wiggle room for this. Do the devs (the source of this) consider the Stalingrad map having a big urban area or not? What about the Moscow map? If they did something like Battle of Berlin (for marketing purposes) it'd probably not include Berlin on the map. We'll see!
deathmisser Posted November 8, 2022 Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) Aye hopefully this video should give us more clues. (Hopefully) Edited November 8, 2022 by deathmisser
zan64 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 is everyone sure they are going to announce? seems setting ourselves up for disappointment 1
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, zan64 said: is everyone sure they are going to announce? seems setting ourselves up for disappointment i doubt as 90min before this international stream they have russian version, you would expect if its anouncment it would be on same time for all, maybe after the streams they anounce something on forum but i would not expect it during it. 2
Trooper117 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 7 hours ago, CountZero said: but i would not expect it during it. Well, 'the' biggest question on most of their fans minds will be 'what is the next GB going to be?'... after all, just look at the speculation that is all over these forums running rife at the moment, due to them actually telling us it's been chosen already and they are already working on it... But you wouldn't expect them to tell their fans at the moment?
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Trooper117 said: Well, 'the' biggest question on most of their fans minds will be 'what is the next GB going to be?'... after all, just look at the speculation that is all over these forums running rife at the moment, due to them actually telling us it's been chosen already and they are already working on it... But you wouldn't expect them to tell their fans at the moment? Yes, if they anounce anything i expect it to be on forum first and after streams, whats the point of having 2 streams at differant times if plan is to anounce it on stream, what you not gona anounce it on russian stream but only on american that comes later, or you gona anounce it on russian and then what for american that comes later, ppl would then know before stream what next DLC is, i dont think they gona anounce what is next DLC on streams. Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero 1
Alexmarine Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Maybe: Announcement on the forum and on their various channels first (max 1 hour before?), streams later for full devs impressions on the announcement itself and some updates on already WiP features and DLC/Modules?
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Alexmarine said: Maybe: Announcement on the forum and on their various channels first (max 1 hour before?), streams later for full devs impressions on the announcement itself and some updates on already WiP features and DLC/Modules? Then whats the point of collecting other questons, if you anounce whats next DLC before any stream, all anyone gona care is questions about DLC you just anounced, why bather with collecting other questions ahead of time.
kendo Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 11 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said: For sure. I think that a lot of folks are hinging their guesses on C - not very urban. But I think there's a lot of wiggle room for this. Do the devs (the source of this) consider the Stalingrad map having a big urban area or not? What about the Moscow map? If they did something like Battle of Berlin (for marketing purposes) it'd probably not include Berlin on the map. We'll see! I think the big urban areas are mega-cities like London, Moscow, Berlin, Paris. Stalingrad size is do-able (obviously as they did it first instalment), but as you say think there is more wiggle room than some are considering. My money is on the Med, with Malta, Sicily scenarios and some early work preparing for the Pacific. But i'm always wrong on these things, so ready to be surprised later too ? 1
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, kendo said: My money is on the Med, with Malta, Sicily Would that overlap with CLOD though ?
BlitzPig_EL Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, deathmisser said: Would that overlap with CLOD though ? So? 1
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, kendo said: think the big urban areas are mega-cities like London, Moscow, Berlin, Paris. Stalingrad size is do-able (obviously as they did it first instalment), but as you say think there is more wiggle room than some are considering. This is way I picked northern Poland 39 as there's only a few medium cities there like Gdansk, Bydgoszcz & Poznan. And Polish aircraft would be something new to the sim world. I would so love to fly early variants bombers like the Do-17 E and the He 111 E. But hey we have to see. Just now, BlitzPig_EL said: So? They don't want to have a direct competition from the CLOD lot witch is why they don't wanna do BOB or North Africa.
BlitzPig_EL Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 deathmisser, this isn't my first rodeo, I've heard that reasoning for years and years now, and I think it's time for this title to go it's own way and do whatever theatre of operations they want to. Why hold back the most successful WW2 air combat title there is for an older game that only a tiny number of people play? Makes no sense what so ever. 2 3
Guster Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: deathmisser, this isn't my first rodeo, I've heard that reasoning for years and years now, and I think it's time for this title to go it's own way and do whatever theatre of operations they want to. Why hold back the most successful WW2 air combat title there is for an older game that only a tiny number of people play? Makes no sense what so ever. This. I'm aware of what the devs stated in the interview, but still the overlap argument does not make sense to me at all when they can do a much, much better job. That's like saying "I'm pro player, but I'm not picking up flamenco guitar because it's my old buddy's hobby, you know, and I don't want to humiliate him with my superior chops."
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said: deathmisser, this isn't my first rodeo, I've heard that reasoning for years and years now, and I think it's time for this title to go it's own way and do whatever theatre of operations they want to. Why hold back the most successful WW2 air combat title there is for an older game that only a tiny number of people play? Makes no sense what so ever. Aye I'm only going off from what I heard m8 plans can change they well have picked an Italian theatre. But then again the Italian theatre have been covered in Il-2 before in stuff like Birds of prey & Tobruk ect. So Italian aircraft won't be anything "new" to the Il-2 series. Witch is why my guess it would be early war like the low countries or Poland as they would bring something "new" to the series. Edited November 9, 2022 by deathmisser
kendo Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, deathmisser said: Would that overlap with CLOD though ? No, don't think so. Different enough from North Africa I would assume, but who knows?
CountZero Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, deathmisser said: Would that overlap with CLOD though ? No because GB does Sicily 43, and CLOD goes by timeline, so they are doing 42 in Channel and by timeline they have to do El Alamain, then Tunisia and 43 Channle if TF6 sells, they can also do Malta timeline next because they are not constrained by 5v5 DLC they can do that, GB cant do early Malta because all important airplanes are already in game, you make map for it with SIcily 43 and then add few missing airplanes for Malta ocupation years with collector option if demand is big. By that logic GB could not do Normandy because CLOD did Channel 40-41, and plan to do 42... GB does 43 CLod can do Malta early battles. Similar map differant timelines. 2 hours ago, deathmisser said: Aye I'm only going off from what I heard m8 plans can change they well have picked an Italian theatre. But then again the Italian theatre have been covered in Il-2 before in stuff like Birds of prey & Tobruk ect. So Italian aircraft won't be anything "new" to the Il-2 series. Witch is why my guess it would be early war like the low countries or Poland as they would bring something "new" to the series. 2 hours ago, deathmisser said: This is way I picked northern Poland 39 as there's only a few medium cities there like Gdansk, Bydgoszcz & Poznan. And Polish aircraft would be something new to the sim world. I would so love to fly early variants bombers like the Do-17 E and the He 111 E. But hey we have to see. They don't want to have a direct competition from the CLOD lot witch is why they don't wanna do BOB or North Africa. Something new with Sicily 43 is torpedo carrying airplanes, logical preperation for PTO. Poland 39 would be end of game, if they go Poland they will do it 45 with Yak-3, Yak9U, La-7, 109G10, 190A9 Ta-152H, airplanes ppl would buy, not antics in 39 no one would buy, and both make no sense in preperation for PTO. Edited November 9, 2022 by CountZero 1
dresamAsam71 Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Hola. Nadie ha pensado en la guerra chino japonesa???
[CPT]Crunch Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Overlap makes all the sense in the world, because no matter what I will never buy CLOD in any revamped mod, to me it's long dead and not coming back. Besides its a steam only game, I loath that platform, will never go that route again. Pretty sure I'm not the only one seeing it this way. To not overlap is nothing but lost sales opportunities. 1 3
deathmisser Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, [CPT]Crunch said: Overlap makes all the sense in the world, because no matter what I will never buy CLOD in any revamped mod, to me it's long dead and not coming back. Besides its a steam only game, I loath that platform, will never go that route again. Pretty sure I'm not the only one seeing it this way. To not overlap is nothing but lost sales opportunities. Aye I would rather the team over on the dover side to work on GBS side. More manpower more ideas and more content for GBS.
Bars- Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Russian youtube stream featuring Loft and Han just ended. That's not a GG for this game?! New project is gonna be new step with new graphic engine, new user interface and revised flight and damage models. fuel system and some other features.
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