ENGLISH Interview with IL-2 GB team In October 2022

[CountZero]

Just now, BRADYS555 said:

O, I missed that part as well then, that's to bad, another 3 or 4 years then till we see a Japanese plane probably 

yes if your lucky its only 3-4 years

[BRADYS555]

That really limits to possibility's then, they did say it would something new to the game though, Italian East Africa, or Syria maybe? 

[343KKT_Kintaro]

 

4 minutes ago, BRADYS555 said:

Burma, would be just that Burma, in 42, the Invasion of, and possibly later 43-45.

The IJA was the Primary Japanese Air Power in Burma, the IJN did not really operate over Burma at all.

Pacific, I would tend to think of personally as the island Hoping Campaign CV vs CV, or against Shore based planes Over Tarawa or the mandates, possibly Wake, circa 42/43.

Or Guadalcanal and the Solomons campaign.

Or New Gunnie.

My Assumption would be the Solomons Campaign would be the most appealing from a marketing standpoint.

But Burma might be more interesting to me personally.

I think thought that data would be easier to come by for Planes like the Zero, Kate and Val, Oscar and Betty, all planes that saw service over the Solomons, the KI 48 and the Nell were also present, but I would think good data on them might be harder to come by.

 

 

Thank you for your response! My point is that the five main carrier-based battles (Coral Sea, Midway, Solomon Islands, Santa Cruz, Philippine Sea) should be left to Team Fusion (Dover series) and that all other battles in Asia/Pacific (not carrier-based but terrain-based) should be left to 1CGS (Great Battles, for example: Burma, Singapore, Guadalcanal, Okinawa, Iwo Jima...).

 

 

2 minutes ago, CountZero said:

Higly doubt TF will do Torch , their maps are also 400km in size, and they go by timeline till now so next logical step in desert is El Alamain. And even if they skip on steps you would need carriers for Torch and 1000km+ map, so they would probably just skip it and do Algeria-Tunis advances.

 

 

You know what, CountZero? I'm seriously thinking in El Alamein for the next add-on within the Dover series... we'll see...

 

 

1 minute ago, CountZero said:

They also said no pacific for next dlc in this video

 

 

No Pacific for the next Dover series neither... the point is: what company will be the first to release an Asia/Pacific-based game? My personal answer is... I DON'T CARE! if the Great Battles team isn't able to model carrier operations before a long time, then up to them to immediately start to develop terrain-based aircraft and maps in the Asia/Pacific theatre of operations. TFS will bring us the carrier operations and then all the main related battles (Coral Sea, Midway, Solomon Islands, Santa Cruz, Philippine Sea).

 

 

1 minute ago, BRADYS555 said:

That really limits to possibility's then, they did say it would something new to the game though, Italian East Africa, or Syria maybe? 

 

 

Again, please try to understand only one thing: Africa and the Mediterrranean are.. left to TFS (please re-listen the interview, thank you in advance).

 

 

[BRADYS555]

Italian East Africa, would seem to be a different theater though, at least to me, as would Syria, I think part of my thinking is also that TFS is an inferior product, and I would prefer GB to handle it.

Something different, then gets rather limited, to BOF?

or Poland? Something Early War in Europe?

The Balkans maybe 

Edited October 9, 2022 by BRADYS555

[CountZero]

10 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

 

Thank you for your response! My point is that the five main carrier-based battles (Coral Sea, Midway, Solomon Islands, Santa Cruz, Philippine Sea) should be left to Team Fusion (Dover series) and that all other battles in Asia/Pacific (not carrier-based but terrain-based) should be left to 1CGS (Great Battles, for example: Burma, Singapore, Guadalcanal, Okinawa, Iwo Jima...).

 

 

 

 

You know what, CountZero? I'm seriously thinking in El Alamein for the next add-on within the Dover series... we'll see...

 

 

 

 

No Pacific for the next Dover series neither... the point is: what company will be the first to release an Asia/Pacific-based game? My personal answer is... I DON'T CARE! if the Great Battles team isn't able to model carrier operations before a long time, then up to them to immediately start to develop terrain-based aircraft and maps in the Asia/Pacific theatre of operations. TFS will bring us the carrier operations and then all the main related battles (Coral Sea, Midway, Solomon Islands, Santa Cruz, Philippine Sea).

 

 

 

 

Again, please try to understand only one thing: Africa and the Mediterrranean are.. left to TFS (please re-listen the interview, thank you in advance).

 

 

But they didnt say that africa and med is left to TFS, and they said that it would be questionable decision if GB did Battle of Britain where there is one in CloD, or TF does Battle of Normandy but they didnt say its Med and africa for clod only. That player base is not that big so no need to artificialy devide it yby doing same. So what i get is that anything with existing areas is off limits, but anything that is not done is posible in either. So nothing stops GB doing El Alamian if TF say they are not doing it. Or if TF wots doing Kursk if GB dont plan doing it. They say its not law that one is doing just this part and another just that part.

Edited October 9, 2022 by CountZero

[343KKT_Kintaro]

5 minutes ago, BRADYS555 said:

Italian East Africa, would seem to be a different theater though, at least to me

 

 

Absolutely!

 

 

5 minutes ago, BRADYS555 said:

as would Syria

 

 

That's Mediterranean...

 

 

5 minutes ago, BRADYS555 said:

part of my thinking is also that TFS is an inferior product, and I would prefer GB to handle it.

 

 

As I said to Dusty, what will happen will happen "if the affected companies first agree by their own will. You and I, Dusty, can express our wishes but we have no power to decide whatsoever."

 

"BOF?" / "or Poland?"

 

The Dover series already reenacted the Battle of France several times since they have the French D.520 and the Messerschmitt Bf 109 E3 (and E4), all of them aircraft that are missing in the Great Battles series. For the Battle of Poland... no idea, I don't know what is the future of combat flight sims for such a conflict of 1939, nor I know who will (finally) seriously reenact the Spanish air dogfights of 1937-1939 in a modern-standards serious flight simulation. Fingers crossed.

 

 

1 minute ago, CountZero said:

But they didnt say that africa and med is left to TFS

 

 

It has been said elsewhere... it's in these forums but, sorry fella, I won't spend my time looking for the specific source.

 

 

[BRADYS555]

So, it's anybody's guess I suppose, No Japanese, No CV's, kind of limits the possibility's as it's WW2 not Korea or Israel circ 48

 

[CountZero]

6 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

Absolutely!

 

 

 

 

That's Mediterranean...

 

 

 

 

As I said to Dusty, what will happen will happen "if the affected companies first agree by their own will. You and I, Dusty, can express our wishes but we have no power to decide whatsoever."

 

"BOF?" / "or Poland?"

 

The Dover series already reenacted the Battle of France several times since they have the French D.520 and the Messerschmitt Bf 109 E3 (and E4), all of them aircraft that are missing in the Great Battles series. For the Battle of Poland... no idea, I don't know what is the future of combat flight sims for such a conflict of 1939, nor I know who will (finally) seriously reenact the Spanish air dogfights of 1937-1939 in a modern-standards serious flight simulation. Fingers crossed.

 

 

 

 

It has been said elsewhere... it's in these forums but, sorry fella, I won't spend my time looking for the specific source.

 

 

You posted to re-listen the interview, i did just that as TF part of it is short, and i post what they say, they say no argement just logic of doing stuff.

I dont remenber anywhere they said Africa or Med is strickly TF or CloD domane, and from what they say in video dosent seam like that.

If you belive it works like that, how would then both of them doing PTO at same time in future ?

[Feldgrun]

12 hours ago, ITAF_Rani said:

So my bet is 50% Italy and 50% Pacific..

If it’s Italian planes in the Pacific, would that make it 100%?

Edited October 9, 2022 by Feldgrun

[343KKT_Kintaro]

8 minutes ago, CountZero said:

You posted to re-listen the interview

 

 

Regardind the Mediterranean it is not said in the interview but somewhere in the forums. Cheers...

[MajorMagee]

3 hours ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

Absolutely!

 

 

 

 

That's Mediterranean...

 

 

 

 

As I said to Dusty, what will happen will happen "if the affected companies first agree by their own will. You and I, Dusty, can express our wishes but we have no power to decide whatsoever."

 

"BOF?" / "or Poland?"

 

The Dover series already reenacted the Battle of France several times since they have the French D.520 and the Messerschmitt Bf 109 E3 (and E4), all of them aircraft that are missing in the Great Battles series. For the Battle of Poland... no idea, I don't know what is the future of combat flight sims for such a conflict of 1939, nor I know who will (finally) seriously reenact the Spanish air dogfights of 1937-1939 in a modern-standards serious flight simulation. Fingers crossed.

 

 

 

 

It has been said elsewhere... it's in these forums but, sorry fella, I won't spend my time looking for the specific source.

 

 

The Battle of France is also being done again here https://www.wingsoverthereich.com/

Edited October 10, 2022 by MajorMagee

[343KKT_Kintaro]

24 minutes ago, MajorMagee said:

The Battle of France is also being done again here https://www.wingsoverthereich.com/

 

 

I know the OBD Software simulators even if I never tried them.

 

- Over Flanders Fields (released 2005)

- Wings Over Flanders Fields (released 2014)

- Wings Over the Reich (released 2018)

 

But I never heard they were preparing a Battle of France flight sim. So... thank you, I didn't know that!

 

After I watched tons of videos in YouTube, their weather engine always looked very cool to me... BUT:

 

1) Compared to the Dover series and to the Great Battles series... the graphics in the OBD Software simulations are completely outdated. The last serious update in their game engine dates back to "Wings Over the Reich" in 2018... and graphically it is not very impressive. But who knows, maybe they'll surprise us with new improvements and their game catches the IL-2s up. Fingers crossed for this upcoming Battle of France.

 

2) Most important: I may be wrong but in my opinion it is very unlikely that 1C deals someday with OBD regarding any potential future collaboration and/or distribution of a Battle of France flight sim or an Asia/Pacific flight sim. And the official forums of the IL-2 games, where we are, are held by 1C-777.

 

There's nothing you suggested in particular about 1C and OBD, I know, but I think that any discussion on potential future flight-sim reenactments of Spain 36-39... Poland '39... France '40... or Asia/Pacific 37-45... all of these scenarios here in these forums should be treated under the 1CGS/TFS approach in terms of assumed potential development.

 

 

[-332FG-Magic_Zach]

On 10/8/2022 at 11:01 AM, MajorMagee said:

Sure, they can do anything they want because it will be new to all the 14 year olds... ?

 

[=AMR=Match]

Next could be the North African battlefield

[343KKT_Kintaro]

3 minutes ago, -9th-HC01 said:

Next could be the North African battlefield

 

 

Please go the original post, click on the interview video, and listen as of timing 44'13''...

 

 

[Field-Ops]

Really enjoyed the interview and like everyone else here saw it as very helpful. Glad the project is still going strong even though their main programmer has moved on to new things. If that was the only news we were to receive (I know the devs said themselves before this interview that work will continue) then we would be in too much shell shock. 

I do hope you follow up with another interview, frankly you had the best questions prepared next to Stormbirds blog that got a lot of good info out there. Key questions Id like are if plans to continue the Tank Crew and Flying Circus series is in the works. Also if Ugra Media and Digital Forms are in the docket for more projects beyond what we understand them to be. As we understand it now Digital forms is on the Stug and Churchill, Ugra Media on the Flying Circus map and Li-2, and Ivan Shirshov on the IAR-80/81.

[Bell]

Would like to see China or USSR fights Japan in the game.

 

[CountZero]

After all this talk i can see that El Salvador v Honduras 69 is top contender based on all the restrictions ?

Just lok at the options, and no 190+109 combo as bonus.

Edited October 10, 2022 by CountZero

[BMA_FlyingShark]

4 minutes ago, CountZero said:

El Salvador v Honduras 69

??????☠️????.

 

Have a nice day.

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

IMHO I am very pessimistic about the future of this sim if they do not get the right scenario ... 

This delaying the carrier battles is going to be the last straw on the camel´s back ...

Come on guys be brave! We had carriers in the IL2 ´46 !!!!!! 

[CapnFlint]

Enigma - just wanted to say I loved the questions you had about  the business model and product side. I also do that stuff in my professional life, and I think IL2 does that really well. I think that side is one of the greatest parts of IL2 - especially on the maps. The planes are totally the most valued "characters" in the sim - I'd even be willing to pay more (even getting up towards DCS prices) for the higher effort collector planes or bombers or small bundles of 2-3 planes. But I really love how the maps are common and available to all. Great work IL2 team and thanks for participating.

[Muddy]

Italian campaign?

Well you are not going to grow the product using obscure, little known and very less popular Italian aircraft. 
For sure a group of your original customer base will bite but if your not playing this sim now then the “Italian Air Force” of WWII most likely will not catch you attention.

I for one would not be interested in this product. 

[76IAP-Black]

I would be happy with some Floatplanes, and new mechanics like SAR, new water, waves, transparent surface, Submarine hunt or suply.
Or some training planes, where you can switch the controls from front to rear and back. The Yak-7 is a already a trainer and there are several more out there 

 

[CountZero]

19 minutes ago, Muddy said:

Italian campaign?

Well you are not going to grow the product using obscure, little known and very less popular Italian aircraft. 
For sure a group of your original customer base will bite but if your not playing this sim now then the “Italian Air Force” of WWII most likely will not catch you attention.

I for one would not be interested in this product. 

What els is there left that is famous if they cant do PTO ? 

[Muddy]

Just now, CountZero said:

What els is there left that is famous if they cant do PTO ? 

Exactly 

[IckyATLAS]

Malta could be nice battle theater, with plane, ships, bombers, cargo convoys etc.

[Enceladus828]

10 minutes ago, IckyATLAS said:

Malta could be nice battle theater, with plane, ships, bombers, cargo convoys etc.

But doing the Siege of Malta would require carriers as they played an important part there.

[DBFlyguy]

7 minutes ago, Muddy said:

Italian campaign?

Well you are not going to grow the product using obscure, little known and very less popular Italian aircraft. 
For sure a group of your original customer base will bite but if your not playing this sim now then the “Italian Air Force” of WWII most likely will not catch you attention.

I for one would not be interested in this product. 

Throw in a Spitfire variant and a 109 variant along with some quality Italian aircraft and it'll be fine and something new.  It'll sell better than a bunch of Yaks and Laggs, that's for sure.

[Guest deleted@83466]

It certainly will.  But Muddy has a point though, I think.  I’m having trouble imagining myself getting amped up on Macchis, Reggianes, and Fiats.

[Muddy]

1 minute ago, DBFlyguy said:

Throw in a Spitfire variant and a 109 variant along with some quality Italian aircraft and it'll be fine and something new.  It'll sell better than a bunch of Yaks and Laggs, that's for sure.

I respect your view however it leads right back to the start. More 109’ and Spitfires and some aircraft that is very unfamiliar to the non enthusiast- good sales numbers to a mid percentage of existing customers, however  in general sales terms most likely not a winner , keep in mind it’s business.

[343KKT_Kintaro]

3 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

It certainly will.  But Muddy has a point though, I think.  I’m having trouble imagining myself getting amped up on Macchis, Reggianes, and Fiats.

 

 

Less trouble imagining that... than going back to this raft...

 

 

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Well, I guess we aren’t on the same page then, because if you don’t like Jaws, then I don’t think you and me can be pals.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2022 by SeaSerpent

[Ribbon]

11 minutes ago, 343KKT_Kintaro said:

 

 

 

 

 

Reminds me of peeing in the morning!

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

3 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Reminds me of peeing in the morning!

 

I had to think about that joke, but I eventually got it. ?

[343KKT_Kintaro]

3 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

Well, I guess we aren’t on the same page then, because if you don’t like Jaws, then I don’t think you and me can be pals.

 

 

I love that film! I've seen it many many times! This is why I thought you were the right person here to catch my joke: your character in the film hated boats, water, the sea... he couldn't stand being on board the Orca... chief Brody would have prefered to be on board a Macchi rather than... ah damm it... forget it...

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

It’s all good.  Ribbon’s joke was better though? 

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, CountZero said:

What els is there left that is famous if they cant do PTO ? 

 

Famous/well known WWII theater, widely marketable, is available (not covered by TF) and thus basically guaranteed to turn a nice profit, and is also not PTO?

 

 

Yeah...that's one of the reasons I postulated Korea.

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

Throw in a Spitfire variant and a 109 variant along with some quality Italian aircraft and it'll be fine and something new.  It'll sell better than a bunch of Yaks and Laggs, that's for sure.

 

Please, not another mo-flicking 109 .

[DBFlyguy]

13 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

 

 

Please, not another mo-flicking 109 .

You know and I know, the JG/ZG crowd love their 109s ...There's more variants and mods of the 109 in this game than probably anything else, yet every other day someone on this forum is still complaining cause they don't yet have Erla....G10...Trop.../AS... G5...  blah blah blah ? The devs might as well take advantage of it.  I'll take 100 more 109 variants over another yak...mig...lagg any day of the week.

[Gambit21]

42 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

You know and I know, the JG/ZG crowd love their 109s 

 

Der Luftmafia!

 

[AndyJWest]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

Please, not another mo-flicking 109 .

 

I get the distinct impression that some people won't be satisfied until every single 109 that ever flew is modelled individually - with extra versions to cover important changes during the airframe's life: e.g. having the left mainwheel knocked half a degree out of alignment after Oberleutnant Schnitzel hits a rabbit hole on landing...